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Mhh... nobody, infact I didn't find someone to share this hobby, until 2002/2003. The first experience was, in 1998, when this new mysterious Celeron Mendocino 300A come out... I was 12, so I needed it to play better with my PC So, Abit BH-6, SDR PC100, and CPU immediately set on 450MHz instead of 300 It enjoyed making fun of my friends which bought a PII 333MHz (which was slower than a Mendocino@450), which cost more Little bastard I was:nana:

it was a "bad" day? lol, you're very polite I was going to become emo and starting listening to Tokyo Hotel

fixed

Meanwhile in Switzerland........... :D

Yeah, I heard it too, and I tried it also, with no differences lol But every vga (rma after rma lol) I'm testing, i try with and without the reactor... maybe I'll find some cases in which it will be useful, that is why I was asking. Anyway, I'm planning a sort of group buy, I'll pm you soon, just give me time to gather the requests from my teammates

Maybe I'm missing something but, with cards like the 7970 lightning with the reactor, couldn't it be mounted without the backplate, using only the 4 thumbscrews?

Nice shot Lorenzo! Congratz!

Ah ok thanks. In the meantime I asked a few shops around here in Italy, they said it'll be here in about 2/3 weeks from now.

Subscribed. Hazzan, is it already for sale on the market, or this is a sample sent to you by MSI?

I killed my teammate, since killing hw was too mainstream

Yeah, the mobos are fragile, but we did wrong in not submitting everything asap, we should have taken in account possible hw failures At least, we can say we learnt something, after all

We're out of games, last sunday we benched without probs, then, Tuesday, we were going to re-bench to post the scores before the elimination: mobo completely dead, no time to rma it, no way to submit anything. We asked for ab extreme and then stopped everything, since there's no point in using it now. Anyway, those mobos are too fragile, in this thread almost everyone has suffered from one or more of them broken. Allright, see you next year maybe, and good luck to all of you for the qualification process!

ohhh, that's good, thanks pieter

Ok, no need to go further, you're in firewall mode and you simply can't hear our reasons. Oh, don't usi msi control center to oc your cpu, insted do a pin mod on your 3770K (and if it's not possible, let's do some reverse engineering, to prove we are worth that comp), and a fullmod on the mobo, it surely defines you as a pro ocker that can compete in this event. control center is too easy, when you can vmod everything. Oh, another thing: tell a guy who practices another sport what does he think about these rules and the partial release only to a few guys of a tool who helps a lot, and please report his answer.

MSI organizes a competition, in which I must mod their cards because that fucking software is secret. Then, if I break the card, no warranty is recognized. WTF? You have money to throw out of the window? Please, do it, but don't mess when somebody cares about trying not to destroy everything because of that stupid decision by MSI. You wanna mod everything? Do it, nobody is trying to stop you. You wanna see top competitions to include even soldering abilities? Ok, let's do MOA 2013 with a medium range vga, so that you're not vaporyzing half wage if something goes wrong. @uncle fester: ooooh yess, let's not complain if something could be improved etc... let's not complain if politicians are shit involved with mafia and so on... let's not complain, because if we do, ooohhh poor us, there will be no MOA. Well, I have the habit to try to improve things, not to stay in a corner and accept everything is thrown at me.

Maybe I'm wrong but I read something about you need to update intel ME prior to use live update to flash newer bioses. Saturday, I flashed my new gd65 from 1.2 to 1.5b3 without problems, but I did it via bios, not live update

uhm maybe it's for the | and I in my nick, that is different for forums and homepage I'll pm the link, so that this topic will remain almost clean

it's really strange... afaik, usa is one of the first countries to get new hw (due to the "weight" of your IT market of course), when something new is released :\

@Duke: You want me out of here? just say it clear ahshahshahahhaa No I'm joking, and this means that I said all I had to say, time to wait Pieter with news from msi, let's hope they'll be good @honda: correct, I didn't post the screens because... well, I forgot to take pics of the rig -.- Anyway, this is the max we reached, yesterday evening, with only 1,3v on the GPU, and CPU at -190, of course. First one, gpu at 1300, -50 if I well remember Max screen obtained, at about 20 degrees less, let's say in the -70/-80 range, 1330mhz, no way to do better with that voltage, even at -120

Honda, I think that a lot of people just have an AB taken from other guys, so we're not just in 2. And even if we're in 2 in the whole europe, maybe in other countries there are other guys who didn't asked it in public for their reasons that IDK. Please, don't put it in the perspective that I'm the only interested, in fact I was for not to enter the comp because I have so little time to spend on it etc... I was convinced by a friend, and I said ok, but there is a thing that I can't stand... and here we are. If all this was only for me and my teammate, I was probably out drinking a pair of beers, instead of trying to get MOA rules more precise

No Andrea, you can't stop until you'll reach 200k milestone, keep pushin'!

In car competitions, and in all competitions, there are rules that you must subscribe prior to say what's the team you'll bring on the racetrack, what car will you race with etc... if the rules states "no turbo allowed", no one can use it. The parallel between our situation and the other one just described is "you can have max 500hp" as a rule. Normal teams will get no help in squeezing out the HPs, other teams will have the competition organizer who gives them aids, like "hey, do this in your ECU, it'll help you, don't share with others". It's not vital, but it's for sure of help... and it's not fair to help somebody and not the others.

Yes, I didn't know, because I didn't have a lightning and I simply tought that AB extreme was just like the last time I needed it, in the 5870 period... it was posted here and there on XS and almost all the websites, and everybody could pick it. Now I noticed it, and now I'm raising my doubts and proposing solutions. In America you had other problems? ok, I'm not in America, I didn't follow what you were doing over there, and if this time we can obtain a change in the rules for europe, the same will be applied to the next online qualifier and even to America, the next year.

If ALL partecipants weren't able to put hands on something, then it was a crap, but it was the same for everybody. And, if moa for america was a bad experience for that reason, why the hell should we have the same problems, on another issue? Issues are made to be solved, not to say "oh come on, do the hardmod, oh come on, don't break msi balls, oh come on there are bigger problems in the world". Oh and if you will to hardmod a 549euros vga, nobody is keeping you from doin' it... but if I can avoid to put my hands on a soldering station (like it was in the past 10years, when I started), then it's better. I'm not a professional, I solder if it's necessary, and this time it is not.

Nice work Lorenzo!