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That's a crazy 6950x right there

Cheers guys. I tried again tonight, but couldn't repeat it. Next time, still too warm now.

sounds harder than 743

Hey All, I had the impression that all ambient league results required a Rig Picture to verify the cooling supplied. (a) Is this true, verification photo of the rig is required? (b) where is this written in the rules? Is it easilly accessible for all to find. © can there be some actual Ambient League rules or a guide to ambient overclocking added for the main page? HWBot NEEDS THIS!!!!! Hope for some clarification here. Thanks.

That's a bit poop. Board isn't supposed to arrive until tomorrow

There was so many running ice bucket at that time. You did nothing wrong with it. Was all pre apprentice league so no problem.

Oh. Cool. Thanks.

The rule only came in from april 2016 I believe. When I spoke with Mods at the toile, they were hesitant to move anyone over to apprentice league that had used an ice bucket prior. Opinions may have changed now. @suzuki , IMO, if you are in minus ambient temperature, it's a tough dellema to decide as it technically is ambient, but if you put submitted as custom water but in the comments listed ambient temp at -20, I feel that would explain the situation and make the sub transparent for all. But if you are using ice bucket, there is no doubt you artificially cooling, which below is listed to move you to apprentice. Have a read through all this. http://forum.hwbot.org/showthread.php?t=153758 That picture I showed prior is a chiller, no doubt. Warper, sorry but blaming that rules aren't clear is bullshit. Thanks for showing an actual photo of your setup (unlike others) but where you failed is during the submissions you chose the wrong cooling method, it should have been water chilled/cold. Totally agree though, @christain_Ney the rules need updating on the main page for clarity on what is appropriate cooling for the ambient leagues, or we will keep seeing more and more rookies coming through clueless. Be good if you guys would chime in here please.

Nice setup man. Can I ask what brand the water temp sensor is? Looks pretty neat.

Holy Cow Teats, what ambient man?

Geebus Ozzie, go eat a snickers man.

I appreciate it doesn't affect the league. It's just the matter of clarifying the actual cooling method and that the submission is correct. If you labelled as chiller, there's no problem. Thanks for sharing your setup.

Come on......I saw your facebook back at the time, you had been using it. Why post stuff like that and back track now. Sorry, but your subs have been dodgy as for a long time, and that A/C chiller you have setup explains a lot. Also noticed you removed a lot, is that because your conscience kicked in an got you to remove any evidence of your methods..... Reminds me a lot of Raules009 and his Ice Buckets. Every time one got reported, he just kept removing them to stay in enthusiast. If you think you are as good as you are, why the hell would you want to stay in this league. I have no problem with that video you sent. That's ambient cooling for sure. If you can explain the extra 8 degree drop on your 5.4ghz run, I'd love to hear it. @jpmboy are your runs done with pure ambient, or are you using a chiller. The confusion comes by people using a chiller (or similar to the photo I shares) but still calling it custom water. This is the main reason there is problems. I look at the rankings for something to aim for, but when the cooling method isn't filled correctly, its infuriating.

Ok, this is my take. A/C in a room, no problem at all. Some of us have to deal with 25-30deg room temps with 70% humidity for 90% of the year. So having an air conditioned room to the usual competition idle temp range of 20 degree should be acceptable. I have the same problems that Ozzie pointed out. This, this on the other hand is not acceptable. This is a chiller (copied from a members FB page) This is a so called top 10 enthusiast idea of "watercooling". I pointed this picture out to the mods back last year during and after the MSI Ambient comp (what a nightmare that was) to show doubt that this particular contestant was playing by the rules. Nothing happened, then this guy finishes third and is the recipient of a 6950X, along with the other prizes. Warning bells for all when he was running 1.7v+ on "ambient" should have been a dead give away. At the time, I had tried to be diplomatic as I was in-line to benefit from his removal. This is where everything that is that league is just a damn mess. People play the rules and do well, only to continually be beaten by those that can "mask" or "interpret" the rules for their own personal gain. Ask me, I still and always will call for a ban hammer after that. Lets not even bring up the other that used an Ice Bucket, then, allowed after to continue and also win that and following competitions without anyone blinking an eye. How the hell do we know that all the temps weren't faked after that, or still to this day. Other examples showing up that are unclear on the cooling are still here too. Not all by enthusiasts, but still, it's just deceiving about what the cooling actually is. Especially when you know these are high-heat benchmarks and in some there is ridiculous amounts of core voltage present. If they just said or showed the full loop, there would be no problem at all. SergeyR`s Geekbench3 - Multi Core score: 23951 points with a Core i7 7700K - 1.7v on water, suuuuuuuuuuure jpmboy`s Geekbench3 - Multi Core score: 24324 points with a Core i7 7700K - 1.44v for 5600, 7700K on water in Geek3....pffft jpmboy`s XTU score: 1947 marks with a Core i7 7700K - Same guy as above, lottery was strong here kimandsally`s HWBOT x265 Benchmark - 1080p score: 44.2 fps with a Core i7 7700K - IC Diamond for cool temps my ASS Could just keep going. I purposely stayed out of the competitions after the MSI Competition due to being able to pick the top guys even before it began. Not particularly helpful to encouraging competition when the winners can already be picked before it starts. Now, rant out of the way. To answer your question Elkim (1) agree, cooling a room because you are in a hot climate is ambient, nothing wrong with that unless you use a cold room lol (2) using an air conditioner or other method to mechanically cool your radiator or exchanger is 100% a chiller (3) Open window or really cold tap water, tough one there. I would say Ambient for this league as much as it sucks for us in warmer climates. But, the way I look at the enthusiast league these days, nothing in the rankings matters anyway. Sorry if I took things off on a tangent mate. And sorry to the mods for bringing that very dark time in your lives back up.

Only on low vtt PLL and dodgy sensors man. Less than 1.11v on asrock makes them big out. Subbing to see where this goes.

Nice Ice bucket

Hey what vcore? and where is your rig pic?

Hahaha. Too late in the night. Haven't setup a proper drive (this is bloated 64bit) much less worked out mems yet. Back and backup of backup will come.

@elmor - is it possible to flash OC Panel 1 firmware on these boards from Haswell firmware, or do I need to find a Haswell setup to flash it to suit Maximus IX? Hope that made sense.

Are you manually setting the RTL/IOL and what voltages you running. I find 55 is either of those. I usually see a 55 on retrain when it worked fine, but I didn't lock RTL. Also, when RAM is warm it can struggle on reboot. Sometimes when you get a 55, you can just save settings and reboot and it will boot fine after. 4266 is tough man. Does it to me on this and same on the Formula.

Rig Pic? Want to see the loop.

Chiller? Seems a excellent CPU buddy

Nice one man. Keep doing this and you'll win that competition.

Yeah, used to be a 78 slow boot I get with 12-12 timings, 12-11 is all 22.

OMG. The 22 slow boot with b-die is incredibly frustrating. Has anyone found a cure to stop it happening every boot!