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Think I am done with this one. Board is so hard to train with memory, I just don't have any more energy for it. Good luck to all, and thanks for the competition.

That's better, smashed it man.

There can be only one.

Mother of God!!!! Good score mate.

Well done George. Finally made it.

I agree with George above. I think it needs to be kept simple, but there is no real way to be sure someone is telling the truth. Yesterday I sent this to a very level headed guy here. I mentioned to Matt on our discussion of the Apprentice League that I think it's fine to have the league, but also change the Competition setup in the ambient leagues to have fixed clocks. In my opinion, it makes it more competitive and less about hardware luck or deep pockets. It's more about the tweaks to educate these guys to get better and progress to cold or the higher leagues when they are ready. This also fixes the issue of ambient as you choose a speed most CPU's can run without being sub 30 degrees at idle. People can still run their binned chips for not points or rankings, just need to limit it in competition. At the moment, it's a case of he who has the best gear wins. No competition there, because a lot of guys just run what they have, without the ability to bin. I am one of these that decides whether I want to have a go at a comp, knowing full well I will have no chance of winning because of the competitors. The past few competitions have reinforced my feelings on it. Basically I just decide based on what the runner up prize is or lucky draw prize is and whether it's worth my effort to compete. ROG, Gigagbyte Winter, current gigabyte, there is a pattern, and this is what is killing it for people participating. Without it being fair for the 'ambient' category, people will continue to avoid participating. I don't care to much for league points so it's not so much of an issue, the rankings are just there really for comparison for me whether my efficiency is right or not. It is only when there is a competition with money or prizes involved there is an issue, and this is what needs the attention, not so much the cooling methods. Enough ramble. In Short Leagues as George listed (1) ambient (I'd say aquarium chiller is ok if the idle is proven above that) (2) temps to -50 so single stage/chillers (3) anything below that. And Fixed clock challenges for competitions involving enthusiast, novice or rookie. Fix the competition setup, and the cooling problems become more of a non-issue in the future. I feel this is best for competition, encouragement and education.

Good time and good sticks. Why are you still in the enthusiast league? You should be going cold and stretching further.

Can you add higher BCLK support on non-k processors so we can compete with Asrock in XTU? My Impact appears to stop at 102.66 (any higher results in BSOD) which isn't enough against 102.9! Yet to check on my Hero board, but assume it will be the same.

Is the problem that the other manufacturers cannot do 102.9bclk but Asrock can? Surely the other manufacturers can raise the limit further somehow?

That made me laugh, even though I shouldn't because I had thought of trying it.......

Very Niiiiice

Nice one mate. Keep going.

Bugger. Short go then Magic Smoke. Next time man. CPU still ok?

So slow. You got more clocks in that? Or was this pre-dead board?

TOOEZY!

JEEEBUS, nice one mate!

Nice one Jay

I heard there were puppies... Wrong Puppies, unsubscribing....... I thought HWBot had gone NSFW

Maybe a list of g.skill serial dates (ie, 1601 Bunny Extract) could be useful too. Or the IC Date, ie Week 40 pretty solid, Week 49 JUNK!

It's cool Scott, you can send me your...sorry....my sticks back now

Nice one mate. Killing it!

Why no CPUz validation?

My bad on the mis-info, I thought Haswell with XTU had the same timer issue as other benches. You can use them all.

Ram speed and ram timings are the main factors outside of CPU speed/cache speed. 1600/1866 ram is going to give a much lower score than tweaked 2400/2600/2800 ram. Clean windows install is a great help too. You need W7 64biy for your platform.

So flashing from a Z170 board is a no go, you need a Z97 handy.....hmmmm