TheKarmakazi

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=3812090&postcount=19 I think validation maybe fixed soon! Problem is only with macos + apache

Good luck tomorrow gentlemen!

3oh6 is going to be there, as well as supa titan from guru3d. Benji_Tshi almost made it but passport issues prevented him from coming. NExt year bro!

You the man! :ws: hehe

it may not be as fast as some, thats true. But very nice clean interface, online validation and error checking, integration with cpu-z. Multi core / multithread compatible. Vareity of benchmarks and tests run with only one program. Compatible with XP 32/64, Vista 32/64, Win 7 32/64 etc. Plus its still in development phase so maybe easier to get features implemented! jmke: I wasnt sure what the requirements were for hwbot integration but I guess this one wont cut it Still looks like a nice app though

I am going to be beta testing this program soon. I have notified the user about hwbot (they were unaware of the site). It would potentially be a great hwbot integrated (like wprime) program or you can use the online validation they will provide! The programmers nickname on i4memory.com is "alice" if you want to PM. Or use the contact us form on the website.

oh no! what died?? Great scores though guys

The VIP section is EXACTLY what makes the future of the bot I mentioned only this one rule I would leave the same. Keep cpu/ram/mobo sharing allowed in 3D benchmarks. I didnt mention wprime or any other rule. Obviously using a version of the bench software that is not supported by the rules is illegal. I believe this argument was made and got voted down before current rules were set in place. Do you think mods just come up with rules and implement them without considering their consequences? AFAIK hwbots operation is completely up to the development team. Also, I have heard no other people complain about cpu sharing in a 3D benchmark. I also see nothing wrong with it. It promotes teamwork! Also if this happened where does it end? Can people then not share custom made OS, or registry tweaks? Or how about sharing RAM or motherboards? There would be no end to it.

I do not think there are any plans for what you are talking about here. (At least nothing even posted in the VIP section yet about this). I also think that would be a very bad rule to make. There is already enough suspicion etc about sharing vgas in vga benches. If now you have to include cpu in that it will be ridiculous. Leave the rules the way they are, it works perfect 99.9% of the time. And no system of rules and verifications will EVER be 100% perfect. Not to mentino a 3D benchmark is a 3D benchmark even if it is cpu dependent. Can you run AM3 without a VGA? I didnt think so, that means its a 3D bench Also Im not sure what you mean by "openly described as CPU limited benchmark by Hwbot (and others)"... Who are the "others" the only people that matter to hwbot rules are hwbot

Sry to double post! Also pictures CAN be a very valid way of checking certain things. I.E. if team XXX has 3 members who all submit gtx295 scores with LN2 clocks. A picture could show they all have prepped cards for ln2 with pots etc?

Now I need something clarified for me. Anvil says using the best cpu for 3d benches is illegal. I thought that wasnt considered sharing? The rules state for 3d benchmarks the vgas must be your own, so I took that to mean cpu/motherboard/ram could be someone elses?

lol massman. Anvil: If they all have their own hardware, I dont understand what you are trying to imply by saying "But this kind of thread cannot prevent you from REAL sharing purposes." If people have their own hardware its not sharing... unless maybe I dont know what "REAL" sharing is?

Looks like it will be fun!! Good luck guys

Just throwing in my 2 cents here, but all the guys of JMH I had spoken with seem respectable and honorable. I didnt doubt anything to begin with, but I believe the pictures and video should alleviate anyone elses doubts. I also wanted to say congratulations on your awesome effort! JMH has been putting lots of effort and good overclocks, great job guys

Yeah what am I supposed to do at work now?

Anyone have a non-XS link to crotales volt mod for GTX285?

Yup I reported that score already too, but it seems mods think its ok?

Lmfao!!!

And I am not going to repeat all of mine and other people's valid points FOR the benchmark... Many people have come to the defense of pcm05 and only 2 people you and gautam seem against it. If you dont like the way the bench is weighted, then dont play it I may not like the fact that team finland has an AMD employee who can get unlimited free and ES cpus but hey... life aint fair. So if you dont want to spend the cash on a nice SSD array or some hardware ram disks & a controller card thats not anyone problem but your own. Many people obviously like this bench and it should not be dumped becuz 2 people dont. There are not many options for a full PC test suite out there that runs with XP. So what exactly do you propose replaces it? I have asked this question many times and everyone is skirting the answer...

It is NOT the same... PhysX (and MFT or RAMdisk) is a SOFTWARE based bump in points that skews the results of hardware into unrealistic scores. SSD's Irams and Acards are all HARDWARE which gives better performance because it is simply BETTER and more powerful! Your argument is like saying we shouldnt allow dual socket systems to play wprime because it so heavily skews results? Or that dual gpu single card setup is illegal to play 2003... These are hardware based setups that make the scores so high, not software based like physx/ramdisk. And pcmark rightfully weighted hdd speed heavily because it is the slowest subsystem of 90% of computers! So it makes sense for it to increase scores so much! That is not entirely true! I dont have mega $$ for vantage setups with tri sli and binning 100 cpus. So I bought a few irams to have some fun with pcmark05. I have many results and points invested in pcmark05, since its one of my favorite benches along with 2001. Since you dont seem to even run pcm05 of course you dont care if points are dropped... In fact I would say all of i4memory team is invested in pcmark05 and would be a substantial "loser" if this happens... I know lots of OCF guys and Benchtek UK and Dimastech are hardcore pcmark05 benchers too! So you cant really say no one will be a loser....

And by your own logic very few of those 16,000 are attacking it or asking for it to be dropped...only you and Gautam? But you never raised a problem or question prior to this when I-Rams were all over the place. Only after MFT scores came out did you raise opposition (and I agree with you on that issue). So do you propose that pcmark vantage gets hwboints then in pcmark05's place? Vantage has no problems with large arrays of SSD's and still gives very viable and realistic numbers.

Thats a bit rash dont you think? Unless you substituted points for PC Mark Vantage... Personally I enjoy benching pcm05, lots of things to tweak and squeeze some extra points out of. I dont think we should remove points from it just because new tech is stretching the limits. Give FM some time to determine a finalized policy and see what happens. I really have no opinion on the startup limit, I will follow whatever rules are in place from FM and HWB.

Great feature

I understand what you mean. But know that Im sure everyone appreciates it, I sure do! So thank you for the tweak

I dont think he realizes the two sites are separate endeavors?