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Wow, can't wait to buy one of these motherboards... oh wait... It's a shame you keep making boards you never intend to sell. What's the point?

Lol, bios 0026 is always the best. My lucky bios for Z270

I think hwbot would be much better off if it had an "Elite FAQ" linked on the front page. Seriously, there are so many being pissed off by their misconceptions of what it means to be "elite"... Regarding the ES results dominating the ranking... does it matter if CPU-Z show ES or not? You think vendors don't have access to retail CPUs?... Even if you ban ES, it will still be the same people submitting more or less the same scores... One thing that is relevant though, but has not been discussed is 7740X ES. Kaby-X ES batches have superior scaling on cold. And many top scores are also done on helium. It seems likely that we will not see a CPU that can beat these ES scores for a long time. We are talking about the most popular categories to bench here: 4C cpus and legacy benchmarks. That is a sad development... One option would be to remove all ES scores from those few categories where retail can't compete with ES. Another option would be to always remove all ES scores 1-2 months after launch.

Hi Damn miners have bought all PSUs... I'm looking for a high quality 1500W or above PSU with single 12V rail and no OCP issues. That means no Corsair AX1500i! Example of PSUs I'm looking for: EVGA 1600 G/P/T/ 2. Super flower 1600-2000W etc. Shipped from within EU.

Wow, amazing memory!

It is GPU only. But I was running Fire Strike and Time Spy also at the same session.

Guys, don't miss the secret stage I just found:

I think a decent number of hwbot users actually agrees with you. It's just that everyone has learned long ago that nothing ever changes to the better here. So why try?

ib4...

I'll take the beast!

Very good!

Thanks, 1.89V or so I think.

It was a joke, following the last couple of days discussions in the forums. It's no cheat of course.

I see you figured out the time edit cheat for cinebench finally Great score!

Has it been decided that it 100% is a cheat? I have no idea how to use a java console to pause any benchmark so I can't test it. But there is proof that using pause button does not "trick the benchmark to make it think it ran faster", so I would say that at least using pause button is not a cheat. Not any more than slow mode is for xtu. However I do find it unlikely that he has some other kind of super tweak to get that kind of efficiency with that OS and no overkill mode. But has he tried to explain it to mods or maybe even confessed?

Ok, so I found the screenshot for $@39@'s 7900X 1080p score. 1128 frames encoded in 12 seconds (elapsed time) equals around 94 FPS, yet his score is 120FPS. This was run on MSI Gaming Pro carbon, which does not have pause button. Seems the only explanation can be time manipulation = cheat. After he mentioned pause button and it actually affected elapsed time without altering the score I thought maybe he is innocent after all. But this definitely proves it. What made me wonder was that his score available on uat.hwbot.org with 6950X seems fine.

You don't know what you're talking about. The goc bios was not released until a few days ago. And was specifically designed to not work with the es cards. So that they could not be used for the comp. But I guess you know everything...

Would it make everyone feel better if I told you seaga should actually be in Elite league? It's just that nobody cared to "report" him as elite. He benched his way to nr1 using ES 1080ti with ES bios... All I really see here is the usual elite-envy. Trust me, it's not as glamorous as you think

One way to quickly verify if it's cheat or tweak would be to check the 7900X score in x265. As far as I recall it was done on MSI mb, no? No pause switch on MSI... If elapsed time is wrong, it must be cheat. The scores have been pulled so I can't check myself.

I tried on Kaby-X. Change time cheat works for this platform also. Score is increased, but "elapsed time" stays the same. Which means the score will have an unproportional long elapsed time... Using pause button does nothing for efficiency/unrealistic score, but inceases "elapsed time" by an amount which seems to correspond to how long you have paused benchmark. It can of course be used to run higher clocks, but where does the efficiency come from?

No, it's the same. Don't look at the 2xoverkill, as it can't be compared time wise with single run. Proper run, no overkill mode, for splave is 10 seconds. Cheated run is 14 seconds, but score is higher. Same principle as seen for the 6700K score.

Looking at this score: http://hwbot.org/submission/3396930_a39a_hwbot_x265_benchmark___1080p_core_i7_6700k_55.7_fps It works without a doubt on 1151. The benchmark duration is ~2 seconds off, and eff is through the roof for that mem speed. Doesn't heaven count total number of rendered frames for benchmark score? If so it should not be affected. Don't know about FM but they have been affected by rtc bugs in the past, so it would seem it's worth testing it at least. But it would surprise me if FM haven't thought about this...

Dude, you can't just accuse someone of cheating with no proof. This benchmark varies alot, especially on win7. Tune your OS, or better yet, use proper OS for this bench.

I have been wondering about this score for a long time: $@39@`s HWBOT x265 Benchmark - 1080p score: 55.7 fps with a Core i7 6700K Super "efficiency" with E-die mems at 1800MHz, beating Dancop with similar CPU speed and B-die at 2090+ 12-11...and that score was for Country Cup... Edit: and benchmark took two seconds longer to finish... Edit2: never mind fixing hwbotprime, aka the slot machine, good riddance

Two questions: 1: Is it max 1% discrepancy between screenshot and validation for mem freq stage? 2: Is the new OC lab mem needed for the qualifier? The rules says any galax retail mem, but this page says new OC Lab mem is needed: http://galaxstore.net/GALAX-HOF-EXTREME-OC-Lab-Limited-Edition-Memory-16GB_p_140.html "In order to compete for the GOC Online Qualifier you must purchase the Galax HOF OC Lab limited edition memory 16GB DDR and the GTX 1080Ti OC Lab Edition graphhics card." Thanks Galax for keeping the best XOC competition alive!