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  1. It did not disappear, you have not the mandatory screenshot for competition with background so it was removed from the competition. It is explicitely stated you need a screenshot and have to use competition background for this
  2. The new stage opened today, I also moderated stage 2. Please read the rules, we need screenshot and it has to have background plus cpuz cpu, mainbiard and memory tab, lots of submissions I found did not comply to the rules
  3. It should be clear that you can only play for one team in the competition and that you can also only submit for one team, but I see the problem you adress. On stage 4, please submit mainboard refrence clock, aka fsb, bclk whatever, busclock of the mainboard - not! cpu clock. http://hwbot.org/news/1588_application_18_rules
  4. Like said at support ticket, run command prompt as administrator (You can find this at accessories or windows tools of the operating system), type the command (bcdedit /set useplatformclock yes) and hit enter, then reboot and it works
  5. Simply run cmommand prompt as administrator, type this and hit enter, then reboot and it works normally
  6. We could have discussed this before, you asked if quadros were allowed, answer was officially no, other people therefore did not buy quadros to mod them. This gave you an advantage despite you knew we did not want a quadro modding rampage here. If the submissions will stay at the database is not my business, my job is to offer contestants an even playing field. The sub will be removed, there is no choice
  7. @TAGG What really annoys me is that you! personally ask if quadros are allowed, you get the answer not for this comp and then you hard! mod a quadro and compare it to the two dual purpose cards Ney used. Moving a jumper is for sure different from removing/changing a resistor and physically changing a card that was physically determined by vendor to be used as quadro only, and after the answer given at support thread you could have asked at least again if we see this as a legit move. When you ask about the difference between moving a jumper and soldering a card, the first does not void your warranty, it is an option offered by the manufacturer and needs no soldering^^ I tend to remove your submissions with the card at least for the competition, if you have another card it would be better you bench now in case it is done.
  8. I am sure Ryzen owners will test it and I heard some already did, my goal was to make the cross check like I did on DDR3 with Flares. Worked flawless and I had some fun. This kit will for sure not limit ambitions to get best possible OC on AM4 when I look at component and ic quality, and B-die seem to be best choice for all platforms involving DDR4 at the moment.
  9. Obscure cpu - as said resize to less than 2 MB and try again, if it still doesn´t work send me PM with link to the picture and I will try to add it
  10. derAMD8auer striking hard @Splave nice ps skills, I sense moar wrs incoming
  11. Hi, please add a picture of the cpu with your nickname and date. The marketplace rules ask for this - thank you in advance
  12. Thanks for the informations on Ryzen, good to see "normal" mems work flawless on AM4 as well. One major difference I saw was the choice of SPD entries which I forgot to mention explicitly. You can see at the screenshots that G.Skill added another bin as default profile, 2400 16-16 at 1,20v, labeled as JEDEC. On the Intel models, this is something I never saw before, the mems did boot 2400 by default indeed instead of the 2133 c15 I see usually.
  13. Yes, would be helpful to see the result. It might be a beta benchmark, not all benchmark categories get points. I looked at your profile and saw some scores like these, realenehc, x265 and pcmark android 2,0 get no points for ranking for example
  14. G.Skill FlareX DDR4-3200 C14-14-14-34 1,35v Review Hi and welcome to our test and review of G.Skill´s new FlareX series. Introduction: Motivation and a look into history When you look back in history of memory, the name “Flare†might sound familiar to you. Around seven years ago, a year after AMD released its AM3 socket and processors, G.Skill decided to release a memory model series optimized for AMD systems, including overclocking profiles for these which could be loaded. This was the original Flare series, which was very successful not only because of their AMD optimization but because they used well binned PCS X ics which proved extremely useful also on all Intel sockets from 1156 up to 1150. Now, after AMD released its AM4 socket with the new spectacular Ryzen processors, G.Skill decided to follow up on this again and to create a successor to the legendary Flare series, the AMD and Ryzen optimized FlareX series. Inspired by our own experience with the original Flares and because we already saw tests on AMD with these, we decided to make the cross check – what can new FlareX DDR4 do on Intel 1151 with Kabylake, and does it match our nostalgic experience we made at DDR3? Let´s make the check… The contestant: G.Skill FlareX DDR4-3200 C14-14-14-34 2x8GB(F4-3200C14D-16GFX) The memory is delivered in a classic blister packaging which contains the two modules and an inlay. Apart from the series name, “FlareXâ€, the inlay provides the information the memory kit is designed for AMD Ryzen platforms plus a specifications sticker and some promo explanation plus the information about G.Skill limited lifetime warranty. The sticks itself come with a black matted PCB which has size (8GB) and speed printed on it, a pattern we know from G.Skill now from DDR4 start. The heatspreaders which cover pcb and ics is also designed in black colours, material used is aluminium and each side of the modules has a sticker which states the series name and that these are AMD compatible. One side also shows a sticker with exact specifications (DDR4-3200 Cl 14-14-14-34 1,35v, 2x8GB), the production date ( April 2017 in our case) on the hologram and the serial number which indicates ics used are made by Samsung (A500) and sticks were produced at week 14 of 2017. The sticks are build with 1GB ICs, this means there are eight chips used on only one side of the pcb, a clear indicator for us that at rating of DDR4-3200 C14, these are Samsung B-die chips, known for their good overclocking potential. Interesting fact, the sticks also state Intel XMP ready, means a profile on Intel platforms can be loaded. For further impressions you can check the pictures, personally we liked the design. http://www.gskill.com/en/product/F4-3200C14D-16GFX Tests and benchmarks For the tests of the FlareX, we used the listed system Intel Core i7 7700K air cooled Asrock Z170M OCFormula 2x8GB G.Skill FlareX DDR3200 Cl14 MSI Geforce 7900 GTO Mushkin AP-800 PSU a)daily settings at 1,35v We started with the rated specs of DDR4-3200 at C14-14-14-4-34 by loading the MXP on our board. This worked perfectly at the rated 1,35v, so we decided to go on with some popular specifications of higher binned kits which we emulated. Moving up to DDR4-3600 16-16-16-16-36 1,35v worked perfectly, also DDR4-4000 17-19-19-39 was no problem within the 1,35v range. We then dialed in DDR4-4133 19-21-21-41 which also passed Memtest, Geekbench and Super pi 32m which we used as tests for possible daily settings. At next step we tried 4133 19-19 but failed, the fact we were able to end up at 18-20-20-41 showed s that this was due to TRCD/TRP limit at 1,35v. We show a couple of results with screenshots and it is a fair guess that this will give you a big variety of options to chose from, the fact these were confirmed with dos memtest and lots of results also were confirmed with full available 16GB at OS should guarantee you that these settings are 24/7 stable for the tester. b) benchmark settings at high voltage We started with some standard tests to evaluate needed voltage for different frequencies at Cas12-12 and 12-11. Moving up from 3600 12-12-12-28 220 1T with tight timings we tested 3733 and 3866 up to DDR4-400012-11-11-28 1T 220. During this process we noted that all settings worked, but that this kit we tested is for sure no low voltage kit. The 3866 12-11-11-28 setting already needed 1,85v set in BIOS, which is around 1,9-1,91v on our board due to the massive overvolting the MOCF does. We were quite surprised then to see that 400012-11-11-28 and 12-12-12-28 worked around 1.94-1,96v BIOS (2,01-2,03v real) depending on the benchmark, we tested geekbench3, Cinebench 11.5 and 15, XTU and GPUPI as well as Super Pi 32m including a test of this at Windows XP with the legendary copy waza to optimize the result and cut down time needed. All worked. After the pile of kits we already tested in the past, optimism to go further was low, We had B-die based kits that opted out at at around 1,9v on the MOCF, average max voltage tolerated was around 1,95v which we already reached. Nonetheless we tried to achieve more. To make a long story short, our FlareX kit opted out around 2,05v BIOS, which is way above 2,1v real voltage. We achieved around DDR4-4080 12-11-11-28 240 Super Pi 32m with waza, above DDR4-4100 12-12-12-28 geekbench around 2,03v BIOS and were able to run Super Pi 1m and cinebench 15 at DDR4-4133 Cl12-12-12-28 240 tight settings at the mentioned 2,05v set in BIOS, around 2,13v real. This was end of the road for us on the used system. This was in fact much more than we expected after our recent experiences with higher binned kits. On a note, most of the tests were done on Windows 7 X64, if you ever dealt with high voltage/tight timing settings on Samsung B-die, you will know this needs maxmem set to around 4000MB. I mention this because I regularly get questions even from experienced overclockers and benchers which work with B-die for the first time, it is a ic specific problem that settings from 3400c12 upwards need this or you will lose stability at OS completely. Due to the limit on x32 operating systems, this is normally not needed there. Conclusion and personal rating It is never easy to rate memory kits nowadays. After the price explosion especially for higher rated kits over the last months, we needed to put all into a new perspective. So we start with optics and workmanship. For us the FlareX are a good alternative to models offered before, they use an attractive design and low heatspreaders which is quite rare nowadays, the all black design fits nearly all mainboard and cooler combinations. As usual, this depends on the view of the potential buyer, but the classic design and colouring should attract a lot of potential customers. Crafting on out kit was flawless, quality of used components gave us no point we could criticize. On the daily oc, we were able to run these on an Intel system at 4133 at specs of kits 25-35% more expensive. For benchmark use, all benchmarks including Super Pi 32m with waza above 4000 C12 and a some 2D and 3D legacy benchmarks even at 4133 c12 offer good performance. We recently tested a couple of kits rated a lot higher than 3200c14 which failed on this. Another advantage of these, at least theoretically, is their compability and profile for AMD Ryzen, how big this advantage is above other B-die kits with Intel only certification others will have to judge. We simply saw that these are good daily oc Rams and are clearly capable of running high benchmark frequency even for ambitious professional benchers, which we found not too often lately on all brands and bins. The cheapest price at the moment at European price search engine geiizhals.de for the 3200c14 FlareX is 195 Euros, which is around 10 Euros more than similar rated kits and around 40-75 Euros cheaper than 4000 c19 and c18 rated kits in Europe for example. When I check the results obtained at the tests and our experiences with a lot of kits tested in 2017, we tend to give the FlareX a thumbs up, our sample provided solid daily and benchmark overclocking power. The complete package of optics and performance, plus the price compared to kits with similar specifications out of the box justifies a recommendation for these, nonetheless it is fair to say that at least for Intel systems 3600 c16-16 rated like ripjaw5 series are a decent alternative. Personally I like the FlareX, they beat my expectations and if you search a decent all around benchmark kit, they are a serious contender. Thanks for reading and to G.Skill for providing this retail sample and their faith
  15. I really recommend for everyone to add a picture which shows heatsink with sn and pcb or pcb with ics clearly to all submissions. No one wants to have drama because of reports or me having to make decisions we all do not like. The picture of a box is not good, the picture of ram I cannot see sn and pcb is no good, and a picture I can only guess what is used (bc of quality) will not help as well. Thanks All submissions must include a picture of G.SKILL memory with heatsink and serial number; If the heatsink is removed, the picture must clearly show the PCB and IC
  16. Thanks, but no hunting planned here - need to keep up to date though . Very good results
  17. #poweredbyboredom?^^ - good work, 699 is hard and takes time
  18. For geekbench a geekbench link is needed and nothing at rules says it has to have a tag or Nick. The "nick has to match hwbot-name" is part of hwbot validation rules for cpuz. To make it clear again after I just got an insulting email, we need two times gpuz like explicitly stated at the rules, one main tab and one IGP frequency tab, I really thought everyone who participates in a highend competition knows that the real frequencies are shown at sensor tab which is why gskill wants this. This was also discussed here iirc, there will be no exception from this rule
  19. 1. We want the memory sticks to be shown in a way regognizable - if you do not do this I will remove results in the end. 2. I will not remove scores because of mainboard tab missing, but would be nice to have 3. Geekbench needs a validation link for the competition. 4. graphcs driver not recognized at fm link will be accepted as stated by benchmark rules, I only state this for peoples safety once again. 5. No gpuz sensor tab at 11 - no fun, I will remove these scores because this tab is needed to check plausibility of the score 6. Nickname at validation has be to shown, and it has to match hwbot nick. I am not going to remove stuff like "labla2" instead of "blabla" but the stuff has to be recoginzable clearly, I am aware of accounts taken etc problem at cpuz but don´t tempt me^^ Once again to push this, I actually blocked and removed reults already and notified users. Double check rules at competition, double check hwbot rules and please double check your submissions twice at least. This is a qualifier for one of the most prestigeous competitions world wide, playing by the rules and investing time is worthwhile doing
  20. As said yesterday, this escalated quickly - staff will discuss this (already at it as good as possible on sunday).
  21. I posted a link to dowload at page 2, sometimes looking at the thread benefits
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