Massman Posted September 14, 2011 Author Posted September 14, 2011 They should just not send stuff out, mods should be done there. In the early days of these kinds of live competitions, people complained that they weren't able to prepare the hardware before the event and it was causing them to either kill the hw or not achieve the best possible results. So they switched to sending the hardware up front, which now turns out to have negative effects too. Personally, I agree with you. Hardware should be provided at the competition only. If the full event would be two days (first day prep, second day comp), there should be no problem preparing for the event. Quote
Stelaras Posted September 14, 2011 Posted September 14, 2011 They should just not send stuff out, mods should be done there. That's how it was on MOA 2009 & 2008 . There are some things that they have to sort , but in general i agree with you and i would like it that way again . For example , let's say that you have never benched a 580 lightning . How are you going to proceed ? These cards are picky while overclocking .You have to know how to bench with it in order to get the best out of it . Also , what mods will you choose ? There were times that the hwmods they gave us didn't work or they were extremelly difficult. If you know how to find mods , you need a few hours . You don't have that time during a competition. Only if the competition was extended to 2 or 3 days . Day 1 : pretesting and voltage modding. Day 2 : Contest Quote
Stelaras Posted September 14, 2011 Posted September 14, 2011 Hey MM ... we wrote the same . Fully agree with you . Quote
Hondacity Posted September 14, 2011 Posted September 14, 2011 I think MSI reps will take note of your suggestion/observations guys, just give our MSI reps your feedback. even Intel/MSI help iron'd out the one cpu thingy, now teams have 2 cpus. thats a big change. still 1 day for 3 benches will be tough. tough is good, this will proove who is good Quote
Mean Machine Posted September 14, 2011 Posted September 14, 2011 I must say I enjoy seeing the new faces on the "predict the over-master-lord-king-queen-whatever" site. It could easily have been an FBI register of child molesters instead. Quote
ME4ME Posted September 14, 2011 Posted September 14, 2011 Steleras, i don't agree with that. If MSI didn't send out the hardware before the contest, some people may get a sample of their own and test anyway, while others may not. Either that being for financial reasons, or the hardware just not available in some countries. Sending it out means equal changes for everyone to pretest the components. Also, lets take thermalpaste for exemple. If you'd get the hardware the day before the contest, and then you find out your thermalpaste doesn't do it's job, you're skrewed. Simply no time to get better stuff. With hardware at home, you can test and prepare in a decent way. I like the way it's currently done. Quote
Stelaras Posted September 14, 2011 Posted September 14, 2011 Steleras, i don't agree with that. If MSI didn't send out the hardware before the contest, some people may get a sample of their own and test anyway, while others may not. Either that being for financial reasons, or the hardware just not available in some countries. Sending it out means equal changes for everyone to pretest the components. Also, lets take thermalpaste for exemple. If you'd get the hardware the day before the contest, and then you find out your thermalpaste doesn't do it's job, you're skrewed. Simply no time to get better stuff. With hardware at home, you can test and prepare in a decent way. I like the way it's currently done. That's why i said that there are many thing to sort out before changing the way they distribute the hardware . Quote
Massman Posted September 14, 2011 Author Posted September 14, 2011 Another alternative is for MSI to ship one extra card to the overclockers at home which they have to give back to the organisation before the competition. At the competition, they're given two new cards. I wonder what would be the cheapest financially: giving away 16 extra high-end cards/mainboards or an extra day of preparation. Quote
ME4ME Posted September 14, 2011 Posted September 14, 2011 What would be the cheapest: 1 extra card for each team, or invite Massman Quote
Stelaras Posted September 14, 2011 Posted September 14, 2011 Massman has the solution ! I vote Massman for president !!! Quote
Crew Trouffman Posted September 14, 2011 Crew Posted September 14, 2011 Massman as... dictator make more sens than president ^^ Quote
Stelaras Posted September 14, 2011 Posted September 14, 2011 When i meet him in Taiwan , I just have to remember to ask him why you're saying this .I feel like i'm missing something ... Quote
pkaku Posted September 15, 2011 Posted September 15, 2011 (edited) Yes , but there is also a date code/batch written on the backside of the card . On the top of the card to be more precise .I don't know aht other info the may have. You can ask yourself the MSI HQ for more info .Their english is not very good and i can't fully understand everything they say . I think I might the one you said with poor English at MSI HQ Edited September 15, 2011 by pkaku Quote
neliz Posted September 15, 2011 Posted September 15, 2011 I think I might the one you said with poor English at MSI HQ Patrick?! Quote
Stelaras Posted September 15, 2011 Posted September 15, 2011 (edited) I think I might the one you said with poor English at MSI HQ Hi Patrick !! It's nice to have you here ! lol you're in trouble now No , Patrick is a nice guy and i'm sure he understands that i'm not saying this in a bad way . Edited September 15, 2011 by Stelaras Quote
ME4ME Posted September 15, 2011 Posted September 15, 2011 Back on topic, just tested the Z68A-GD80 with the new MOA bios and i really must say MSI nailed it. At MOA it probably won't work as smooth cause of the memory used, but with my Gskill Ripjaws it really works flawless .. just enter the value in bios, and the board will do exactly like it's supposted to. Plus a bit higher bclock than on M4E (105 vs 107 on GD80). Now just hoping the stories about the board killing CPUs is not true. Would be a shame. Quote
Gyrock Posted September 16, 2011 Posted September 16, 2011 Ｏｈ Trouffman, you are not coming...Too sad... Quote
Patch Posted September 16, 2011 Posted September 16, 2011 Pre-binned CPU's. 2 of them? 32m with 50 multi? 3d01 AND 3d11? XP and Win 7 where appropriate? An actual effort to try to limit the competition to the provided hardware? Earned competition slots instead of invites? Even with the best CPU and GPU, nobody's winning this competition without a little skill. Personally, I'm satisfied. Looking forward to meeting those of you I haven't yet met. Quote
pkaku Posted September 16, 2011 Posted September 16, 2011 Patrick?! Hi ~ Dennis~ So nice to meet you here... Quote
Splave Posted September 16, 2011 Posted September 16, 2011 Pre-binned CPU's. 2 of them?32m with 50 multi? 3d01 AND 3d11? XP and Win 7 where appropriate? An actual effort to try to limit the competition to the provided hardware? Earned competition slots instead of invites? Even with the best CPU and GPU, nobody's winning this competition without a little skill. Personally, I'm satisfied. Looking forward to meeting those of you I haven't yet met. what this guy said Quote
ME4ME Posted September 16, 2011 Posted September 16, 2011 Hey guys just wondering, for those of you who already got their flights booked; when will you arrive the 6th? And if staying longer, at what hotel will you be? Just out of curiosity Quote
Mean Machine Posted September 16, 2011 Posted September 16, 2011 Oh, and I've learned one thing. If you want flights, book them yourself, get reimbursed later. Quote
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