skulstation Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 I would like to know your opinion. Whether you would like to have a competition whit workstation / server related hardware ? no prices just for fun Just brain storming 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Scott Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 I'd play 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENiEBEN Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 Any time, would be nice to have something no limits to see progress over the years I'd definitely whip out the '90s compaq servers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Leeghoofd Posted April 24 Crew Share Posted April 24 limit to 2 processors ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoMS Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 ES G34 Opteron would be allowed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skulstation Posted April 24 Author Share Posted April 24 Yes max 2 cpu's to start with. may be next time no limit on cpu's I don;t know if its wise to allow ES cpu's , what does the rest think about ES cpu's ? The normal rules are no ES in competitions as far as i know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoMS Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 (edited) Only asking because those ES G34 chips are unlocked thus a lot of fun without CB/CBB like desktop parts, in other hand, they are very hard to find nowadays and would destroy the retail ones. Anyway, count me in. Edited April 24 by NoMS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skulstation Posted April 27 Author Share Posted April 27 As benchnarks i am thinking of 3 stages ,but i am open for suggestions Stage 1: CB20 or 7zip Stage 2: x265 4k or gpupi for cpu 1B Stage 3: Y-cruncher pi-25b or Pyprime as rules : Any cooling is allowed Standard HWBOT screenshot rules apply Verification screenshot contains 2x CPU-Z tab for the CPU's Add a picture of your benching setup ( no pictutere of a closed case ) windows server allowed Mandatory usage of the Official competition wallpaper ( if anyone can make one ) @Leeghoofd is ther a way to chek for remote desktop login? i like to block remote desktop acces , only fisikal acces 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xdjoeldx Posted April 28 Share Posted April 28 Sounds interesting! I have a bunch of (older) server gear. List of benchmarks sounds ok for newer chips as well. Though what about older chips? CB20 and pi-25b could be a problem for older xeons and opterons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skulstation Posted May 4 Author Share Posted May 4 i think that as long you don't use slot 1 / slot 2 , socket 370 or socket A its possible to run all the proposed benchmarks. In the database t'her are CBr20 scores from socket 604( xeon nocona ) and socket F ( opteron 2*** ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yee245 Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 I'd just be worried that because there would be competition points "at stake", the competition would just end up being almost entirely pay to win, where you just have the more modern high end expensive stuff winning basically every stage, and not really showcasing some of the older platforms. What about making it like some sort of team competition, but only require 1 sub per stage (so it doesn't exclude people on smaller teams, such that a lone-bencher could still potentially fill out all stages)? Stages could be set up to help force other older platforms, like say, having a stage where it's dual-socket with sub-stages being like DDR1/DDR2/DDR3/DDR4, or something. Or, maybe combine the DDRs, so it might be DDR1+2 for one stage, DDR3 for another, and then DDR4+5 for another, or something. Or, I guess it wouldn't even need to be a team-type comp, but could still just be an individual comp, but having separate stages for the older platforms gives someone who has one or two of those a chance against someone that might just have some dual Epyc system, since they can just sub in an equal amount of stages. Or, make it kind of like the push the hardware style comp, where the various rounds are picking different "generations" of server/workstation hardware--perhaps separated by DDR version. That way, it's at least closer competition between people running say DDR2 platforms against other DDR2 platforms or DDR3 against DDR3 on more period-relevant benches (like older cinebenches or something for the older stuff, but cinebench2024 or ycruncher 10b/25b for newer stuff), since they're not going to have to compete with something 10-15 years newer. Not sure exactly how to make it "fair", but just throwing out an idea to at least incentivize subbing older stuff, or at least have a chance of showing off some of the older stuff, rather than just all the top scores all being recent hardware. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skulstation Posted May 5 Author Share Posted May 5 I think t'he most of the modern high end servers in the database , ar from a company and remote login or one time fisikal access Thad why i like to know if there is a way to detect and block remote access ( @Leeghoofd ) Splitting in different ram stages while make this competition a lot bigger than thought, But i let this decision to the moderators. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Leeghoofd Posted May 5 Crew Share Posted May 5 only way to ensure this is to use benchmate David, to be honest I would feel very dissapointed that a user would go that far to "win" a fun competition... I would also go for Memory based stages, maybe DDR2 first round, DDR3 a next one... not sure how many users there will be but I think participation might just be a handful. So what has been decided atm ? Max 2 CPUs ? No remote access allowed, Windows based OS only Stage 1: CB20 or 7zip Stage 2: x265 4k or gpupi for cpu 1B Stage 3: Y-cruncher pi-25b = way to much memory required and very heavy laod on the motherboard./CPU Pyprime = memory benchmark, not sure why one would want to run this on server platforms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skulstation Posted May 5 Author Share Posted May 5 (edited) Ok if you also go for memory based stages then so it while be. The use of benchmate was on of the next rules t'had i want to suggest I know that it while be a small amount of users Stages ware a suggestion , i am open for changes special on stage 3 For now this is decided at the moment : Max 2 cpu's No remote acces Windows based os only All cooling allowed 2x cpu tabs of cpu'z if using two cpu's Standart HWBOT rules apply Stage 1: CB20 or 7zip Stage 2: x265 4k or gpupi for cpu 1B Edited May 5 by skulstation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skulstation Posted May 5 Author Share Posted May 5 (edited) FB-dimm whil count as DDR2 As for stage 3 we can use one t'had is not chosen. My preference is: Stage 1: CB20 whit benchmate Stage 2: x265 4K Stage 3: gpupi for cpu 1B whit benchmate Edited May 5 by skulstation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skulstation Posted May 9 Author Share Posted May 9 (edited) start before or after computex? everyone happy whit the proposed stages? Stage 1: CB20 whit benchmate Stage 2: x265 4K Stage 3: gpupi for cpu 1B whit benchmate and final rules? Max 2 cpu's No remote acces Windows based os only Only workstation / server hardware System pic of open case / open air bench setup All cooling allowed 2x cpu tabs of cpu'z if using two cpu's Standart HWBOT rules apply Edited May 9 by skulstation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Scott Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 Version of gpupi? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skulstation Posted May 9 Author Share Posted May 9 1 minute ago, Mr.Scott said: Version of gpupi? gpupi 3.2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Scott Posted May 9 Share Posted May 9 SR-2 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skulstation Posted May 9 Author Share Posted May 9 Just now, Mr.Scott said: SR-2 ? yes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skulstation Posted May 13 Author Share Posted May 13 (edited) On 5/9/2024 at 12:09 PM, skulstation said: start before or after computex? everyone happy whit the proposed stages? Stage 1: CB20 whit benchmate Stage 2: x265 4K Stage 3: gpupi ver3.2 for cpu 1B whit benchmate and final rules? Max 2 cpu's No remote acces Windows based os only Only workstation / server hardware System pic of open case / open air bench setup All cooling allowed 2x cpu tabs of cpu'z if using two cpu's Standart HWBOT rules apply For me this is the final version. The only thing to pick is a start time and end time. And as suggested by @yee245 and @Leeghoofd it while be divided in memory based rounds Round 1 DDR2/FB-dimm Round 2 DDR3 Round 3 DDR4 Round 4 DDR5 Edited May 13 by skulstation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skulstation Posted May 20 Author Share Posted May 20 round 1 starting the 1 june or the weekend after computex the 8 june ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Leeghoofd Posted May 20 Crew Share Posted May 20 too early David, you got a background for this ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skulstation Posted May 20 Author Share Posted May 20 Just now, Leeghoofd said: too early David, you got a background for this ? ok i wait , no i don't have a background. i hope thad someone is willing to make on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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