Moose83 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 (edited) I searched a bit on this bench to look how good is my storage, but i found an interesting submit with i7 920, and on the comments it was talk about Ramcaching. http://www.hwbot.org/submission/2238591_christian_ney_pcmark_vantage_core_i7_920_41956_marks And here is an normal Areca Score: http://www.hwbot.org/submission/1096127_stevero_pcmark_vantage_core_i7_920_30681_marks/ So, why Ramcaching is in this Bench allowed? Who allowed it? And is it really allowed Its not that fair thought, to allow Ramcaching, can we have a clear point about Ramcaching in Vantage please? Or am i allowed to score 800000 HDD Points:D Edited December 20, 2012 by Moose83 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Scott Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 http://hwbot.org/news/888_application_16_rules/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose83 Posted December 20, 2012 Author Share Posted December 20, 2012 Yeah, thats the point, i know thats not allowed;) But why it is saying in this submit its allowed? There are lots of these results with Ramcaching in all rankings:( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew pro Posted December 22, 2012 Crew Share Posted December 22, 2012 Moose you already know the answer to this question, so why try to make trouble? Just do as you have done in the past and report those results for moderation, if there is some ram disk happening, then they will be removed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knopflerbruce Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Moose you already know the answer to this question, so why try to make trouble? Just do as you have done in the past and report those results for moderation, if there is some ram disk happening, then they will be removed Quoted from the comments in the score thread: "Christian Ney says: 180 days ago – tweak level = 0 <br/> <br/> Storage Caching ;)" This is probably one of the things we've discussed internally but forgotten to add to the rules. I suggest blocking this one (and other ones that uses ramdisk/cache) until the rules page is fixed and a newspost has been posted. It's not fair play if you can use tweaks specifically listed as not allowed, and you're almost the only one who knows about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Ney Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 It has been discussed and allowed for competitions (I think it was even the country cup). They all used it for PCMark7 and Vantage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yamunsa Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 seeing as this thread has been open for 4 days, no mod action has been taken and no one has reported the sub i've taken the step to report the sub. (sorry christian this action is not meant to be personal i'd just like to know if ramcaching is permitted in pcv permanently, just for comps or never and here is as good a place as any to ask the question as the answer is clearly not obvious). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Sweet Posted December 24, 2012 Crew Share Posted December 24, 2012 At the moment of this submission of Christian, we discuss long time this, and finally was allowed include in the country cup, then was not allowed (in the rules) and now... in the staff right now we discuss again ramcaching for PcMark Vantage and 7. Ufff PcMark...over and over, again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Scott Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Ufff PcMark...over and over, again I have a feeling it will be a never ending thorn in one's side. Appreciate the effort though Alex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose83 Posted December 24, 2012 Author Share Posted December 24, 2012 In the actually rules i read Ramcaching not allowed, maybee it was allowed in the past, but now its disallowed;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yamunsa Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 in the staff right now we discuss again ramcaching for PcMark Vantage and 7. Ufff PcMark...over and over, again i'm pretty sure we all feel the same way about this and with the efforts of staff & mods being asked to continually address the abortive mess of pcmark. 3d being so much easier to work with.. install kit, clock kit, run benchmark & submit. the problem is that with all the epeen and ego stroking that many crave, tweaking pcm has been driven to the brink, (likely to be pushed even further when folks start trying to beat a wrapper if/when pcm gets one). with ramcache specifically - if ruled against would admittedly be time consuming to moderate but it does tend to stick out like dogs balls. either way we eagerly look forward to what conclusion the staff consensus comes too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Sweet Posted December 24, 2012 Crew Share Posted December 24, 2012 Rules Update for PcMark Vantage - PcMark'05 and PcMark 7 Vantage Pcmark 7 PcMark'05 :battle: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Scott Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Rules Update for PcMark Vantage - PcMark'05 and PcMark 7 Vantage Pcmark 7 PcMark'05 :battle: So Ramcaching is now allowed. Bad move I think. This will re-open a can of worms that will be impossible to moderate. The tricksters will be pleased though. It gives them another loophole to exploit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose83 Posted December 24, 2012 Author Share Posted December 24, 2012 I cant unterstand this stupid decission:( Now its getting out of control! I can Ramcaching my Areca going to 1million HDD score, its an joke that decission right:p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Ney Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 (edited) It was allowed for Vantage and 7 but massman did a mistake and put it as not allowed during the last rules update. Edited December 24, 2012 by Christian Ney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose83 Posted December 24, 2012 Author Share Posted December 24, 2012 How long will it last:p I mean i do now rebench all my CPUs with Ramcaching, in 2 months it will maybee disallowed again lol:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Sweet Posted December 24, 2012 Crew Share Posted December 24, 2012 Christmas time is here again...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Scott Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 How long will it last:pI mean i do now rebench all my CPUs with Ramcaching, in 2 months it will maybee disallowed again lol:D You don't complain about the ruling, but instead choose to bitch about having to re-bench? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose83 Posted December 24, 2012 Author Share Posted December 24, 2012 I havent benched Vantage yet only some old results in the past;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Ney Posted December 24, 2012 Share Posted December 24, 2012 Lucky you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose83 Posted December 24, 2012 Author Share Posted December 24, 2012 Benching now with Ramcaching and lucky for all the Golds:p But unlucky in a few months when it will be dissallowed:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knopflerbruce Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 If it's allowed now, that decision cannot be undone later. Remember that all the pcmark05 tweaks you guys came up with were not allowed even with the old set of rules - so it's not like we're disallowing tweaks that were previously allowed. We're just doing a better job investigating the better results now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose83 Posted December 25, 2012 Author Share Posted December 25, 2012 I think better make 2 results one for now and one for later:p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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