Mr.Scott Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 http://hwbot.org/hardware/processor/phenom_ii_x4_915_be/ There is no such thing. The only way to get a X4 915 is to unlock a X2 215. There was never a released processor that went as Phenom II X4 915. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENiEBEN Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 You obviously never seen Knuts collection Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Scott Posted April 14, 2013 Author Share Posted April 14, 2013 You obviously never seen Knuts collection Oh I'm aware. I use both his and Karl's collections as a baseline. These guys have everything and then some. Still, the PII X4 915 BE doesn't exist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENiEBEN Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Yeah I agree it doesn't exist, the names were chosen based on the pattern set by AMD, since this cpu and others never seen the retail light. The alternative will be to name it after its P/N. Most likely you will not even see another person uploading scores for this cpu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Scott Posted April 14, 2013 Author Share Posted April 14, 2013 Yeah I agree it doesn't exist, the names were chosen based on the pattern set by AMD, since this cpu and others never seen the retail light. The alternative will be to name it after its P/N. Most likely you will not even see another person uploading scores for this cpu If you're referring to it being a TWKR cpu, there is already a category for that. Maybe merge them then? There is no way that there is only one X4 915 in the world. If there is, I'd like to see a pic attached to those subs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaPaKaH Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 No offense, but I would indeed want a picture added to all these uber-rare CPUs. For once, it should stop people dressing one CPU (detected, say, as AMD Engineering Sample) as ten and, secondly, should help others to find them on sale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Antinomy Posted April 14, 2013 Crew Share Posted April 14, 2013 I totally agree with Mr. Scott and TaPaKaH. There really should be an addition to the rules to require a photo for rare categories and/or categories that can't be detected 100% sure by software (socket A for example or Socket 7). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Scott Posted April 14, 2013 Author Share Posted April 14, 2013 (edited) Thank you for your support. I'm not looking to make a rule change or anything here (although it's probably a good idea). This is not some uber rare cpu. It just plain doesn't exist. Show me some shred of anything, anywhere on the internet that says it does. Even AMD's own documents make no mention of a PII X4 915 anywhere, ES or otherwise. Show me a picture and end this right here. Matter of fact, how did that even get a category made for it? I believe it requires a CPU-Z shot or a link to a site like CPU-World. The CPU-Z shot says it's a TWKR. I see no mention of any 915 BE anywhere. Not trying to insult anybody here but, I can just make up my own category and put a random SS on it too. That doesn't mean there actually is one. Edited April 14, 2013 by Mr.Scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Antinomy Posted April 15, 2013 Crew Share Posted April 15, 2013 (edited) I understand what you are up to. You should remember how I was requesting another category, the bugged Pentium 2 Deschutes category to be deleted so it's the same case - a non-existent CPU. But how can it be an X2 215 if the X2 215 is an Regor with only two physical cores? http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K10/AMD-Athlon%20II%20X2%20215%20-%20ADX215OCK22GQ.html Maybe we'll invite Bruce here - it might be an ES with unique specs that was named as 915 just for convenience. But in addition I like Sam's idea as I've suggested the same several years ago for rare CPUs. Edited April 15, 2013 by Antinomy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ananerbe Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 I totally agree with Mr. Scott and TaPaKaH and Antinomy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Ney Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Yes I sometimes ask physical photo proof when doing moderation. And I always add physical pic when the CPU or Graphics card is not well recognized by CPU-Z/GPU-Z (pentium, cyrix and first athlon for exemple or Motherboard with odd BIOS). I will ask its addition to the rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Antinomy Posted April 15, 2013 Crew Share Posted April 15, 2013 (edited) Thank you, Christian and Ananerbe! Anyway photos are already required for Enthusiast league, so nothing special. Edited April 15, 2013 by Antinomy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Ney Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Anyway photos are already required for Enthusiast league, so nothing special. Photo of the setup. You actually don't see the CPU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Scott Posted April 15, 2013 Author Share Posted April 15, 2013 But how can it be an X2 215 if the X2 215 is an Regor with only two physical cores? http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K10/AMD-Athlon%20II%20X2%20215%20-%20ADX215OCK22GQ.html I've heard tale of unlocked 215's. Might even be one here already. Reference- http://www.overclock.net/t/1005739/what-unlocks-the-unlockable-cpu-reference-list/0_100 Found- http://hwbot.org/submission/2209789_yin92_cpu_frequency_athlon_ii_x2_215_4455.15_mhz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobnova Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 (edited) Some of the really early Athlon II stuff was locked down Deneb. Really really early. I don't remember if that included X2s though. I know it did X3 and X4. Edited April 16, 2013 by Bobnova Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENiEBEN Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Regor with a 3rd core? The hunt begins... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaPaKaH Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Regor with a 3rd core? The hunt begins...Regor is a dualcore by definition. Some X2 210e were Propus (quadcore, no L3) and some early X2-220, X3-425, 435, 440, 445 and X4-620 were Deneb (quadcore with L3). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Scott Posted April 16, 2013 Author Share Posted April 16, 2013 Some of the really early Athlon II stuff was locked down Deneb. Really really early.I don't remember if that included X2s though. I know it did X3 and X4. Well......I have a 215 sitting right in front of me right now. ADX215OCK22GQ CAEEC AE 0931GPDW This is about 3 weeks after the release date. Here's to hoping it's an infamous unlocker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobnova Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 It might be a Athlon II 915! or Phenom II 915! Or whatever the hell it is we're talking about. Correct me if I'm wrong, but couldn't I just lay my hands on a TWKR, set the multi to 13, and submit it as a 915 and have exactly the same amount of verification that the current 915s have? Am I missing something, or is it really that easy to "have" a 915? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Scott Posted April 17, 2013 Author Share Posted April 17, 2013 Correct me if I'm wrong, but couldn't I just lay my hands on a TWKR, set the multi to 13, and submit it as a 915 and have exactly the same amount of verification that the current 915s have? Am I missing something, or is it really that easy to "have" a 915? That my friend, is exactly what this thread is about. Since there is no such thing as a 915, and it's very easy to fraud, is why the category needs to be removed and pictures need to be added. Since the SS says TWKR, that's where it needs to go. Not 915. :celebration: I'll post a screenie if this chip unlocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Ney Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 (ES) has been added to all those made up CPUs. Knut provided pics and codes for those CPUs to the staff, he will make individual pics of the CPUs and add to submissions later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mr.Scott Posted April 20, 2013 Author Share Posted April 20, 2013 (ES) has been added to all those made up CPUs. Knut provided pics and codes for those CPUs to the staff, he will make individual pics of the CPUs and add to submissions later. How much later? If the staff has the pics already, why can't you put them up now and satisfy the request?, or is this just another 'sweep it under the rug' scenario? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENiEBEN Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 Do we look like maids? Pics will be up, give Chris some time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Scott Posted April 20, 2013 Author Share Posted April 20, 2013 Do we look like maids? I don't know about look like, but in essence, you ARE maids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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