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With respect: I have to say there are at least a few teams with alot of "Dead Wood" within their members list, and I mean some that's comprised of about 10, 15 or so active, all the rest not doing squat except to earn a badge to display on their home forum for making the claim they're "On the team". As for teams themselves related to points earned: There is absolutely NOTHING stopping anyone here from benching any and everything they could get their hands on and no one can say otherwise with any truth to it. You do what you gotta do to succeed short of cheating and dirty tricks, doesn't make any sense to punish those doing just that in the right way. It's almost like "If you can't beat 'em, report 'em".... With a new twist from what I'm seeing here. OK, it's also fact that many want the big points/scores.... Hey, that's OK and if that's how you want to go at it with a focus on that, it's all good - It's even nice to get them when you can. However screwing over others that do it in a different way than you is actual discrimination based on benching style - Not everyone is able to afford going after it that way, yet at the same time there is talk about growing the sport. I suppose there is a brand-new crop of Rookies, never having benched anything complete with full dewars of LN2 just waiting to go..... NOT. I see a trainwreck coming up with this..... Happens everytime something gets changed as we all know too well already. Leave well enough alone and just bench.

Thanks - I'll see if there are any others that need to be corrected and do so if I find them.

Noted alot of my subs with an Infinity NF4X got changed to a Foxconn P35 board I've never owned and suspect it's due to a previous database crash/bug/error.... Something. When I try to edit the entry and put in "Infinity NF4X" as it should be it doesn't show up in the sub's info at all (Blank) once edited. Also it doesn't appear via javascript if a partial name is used such as using for example, "Ultra-D" to make the NF3 or NF4 versions of these boards appear in the box to select from. Would appreciate this being looked into when possible - Thanks in advance guys! ?

I didn't know Mr. Scott had that many credits stashed..... Guess he dipped into his scotch fund for that.

It's all working now, thank you for fixing this and all else you've done here - Wanted to say that while you were still in. For anyone else with these submission probs popping up it's probrably java related like it was for me and you may have to temporarily disable any ad or domain blockers that would affect java for it to work.

I believe I've solved it but unfortunately it's java related. Had to shutdown my domain blocker for keeping the crypto-hackers out to make it work but now at least it does with Super PI. I'll try the others in a few and see what happens.

I keep getting errors when I try to do a sub. The first errors I got was saying I didn't have the correct background when I did use it, downloaded from the links provided and set it as the desktop wallpaper for these runs and it's clearly visible as the correct wallpaper within the screenies. Last night it did this with every attempt to do a sub, validation files or whatever else. Today it's saying I have errors with my subs yet it's not saying what these errors are and I'm entering all the needed info per bench, esp with 32M Super PI - I know all that is getting entered yet it's still giving me this error message and yep, the wallpaper is there as it should be too. I'm also using the sub link within the correct category for each bench ran within these stages.

You can also use a domain blocker, I've been using one and so far I haven't had any problems doing it. You'd have to specify what domains to block but it works. Coinhive is one I have blocked along with others, as long as I run it when here or elsewhere I don't see any unusual CPU useage spikes. You'd also need to stay on top of what domains are doing this and update your list accordingly. Sadly this is and will be an ongoing issue since the guys doing it are on top of things like platforms used with a forum, you can bet nowadays they have an answer to just about any format a forum like this one would use.

I agree - If it fits into the board without anything required to "Make" it work then it should be fine.

Merry Christmas to all of you!

Great score!

Have to say congrats to Australia, strong effort to take the win and well deserved!

Not sure why it's giving you a hard time - Mine wasn't difficult, just had to specify it was unlocked to 3 cores right after the CPU model was entered, all the rest was per usual. I've noted sometimes using the prepopulate option (If you're using it with a previous run from the same chip) can mess things up so I just do it all manually from start to finish most of the time.

It depends in the end what chips would be allowed but Turions would be acceptable to me and probrably most others too..... Note I said "Most others", honestly I can only speak for myself on that. In fact I'm cool with anything that runs in a 754 period.

I'll be in again if possible, don't know if I'd have what's needed but if so I'll throw in of course.

Only thing I would change from this is to award a points award at an undefined time. All else looks great.

Sheppix is correct, it's a team based comp and that's the format in which it was conceived for. For comps based on the individual then you'd be in luck provided what you have satisfies the requirements of said comp.

Same here except it's usually the GPUs I have a problem getting. Unless I get lucky and they specify something I already have I'll have to sit out the 3D part, esp nowadays with things the way they are here.

Needs a dualie setup for binning two at a time....

You do make a good point in that many just don't have a large assortment of hardware BUT do remember also this is for the teams, not the individual and it should never be up to a single person to come up with it all on their own. Again, you won't find that "Perfect" solution we'd all like to have and no matter what's brought to the table someone will have a problem with it for whatever reasons since no one's situation is like any other. However it's like that in any other sport you can name too, this is why I'm saying we do need to make the effort or it's not gonna happen. Name any sport you want and I can promise you things won't be equal for all as individuals related to the same concerns being voiced here, it's a "Here it is, these are the rules.... Take it or leave it" kind of deal. Those guys know going in what's up and have to adjust. However..... Our situation is different in that we're already here, things have been going on with teams and such already established and the situation would change, not that other sports haven't changed as time has passed because they have. Change is inevitable and even neccesary for it to continue or you could one day call it all the Dodo bot. This has been kicked around for so long yet nothing ever seems to materialize so on it goes.... I don't have any real say over what's done or how it will be, all I can do is to suggest what could be like the rest of you. However since the discussion is happening in the first place that is a step in the right direction. :banana: BTW do realize unlike it is in other "Sports" we actually get to voice our opinions about HOW things are done, if it were most anything else we'd be told we can either squeal and/or deal or just get the hell out. If the guys here at the bot were to do that one day it woudn't suprise me so much and yes, it could happen that way too but I don't see the guys here wanting it to be like that all.

Thing is, first off we all know there is no such thing as the perfect format or solution if you will, all we can do is to try and come up with something that works for the most possible yet still achieves the desired objective. I have to assume you coudn't get Super PI running due to being busy with other things, the majority of us do have jobs and lives in general with some just being busier than others - I get that. I know for some that may prove difficult but again, there is no perfect solution. All we can do is try to come up with the best possible format or way of doing it that's of the most benefit to the max number of competitors/teams as possible. Related to your CPU-Z suggestion, an alternative idea is a different wallpaper for each round making sandbagging more difficult, said wallpaper also not being known until the round/stage itself begins. You won't eliminate all sandbagging, that will never truly go away but something that makes it almost mandatory to post your best within a short time frame will help reduce it. If we don't make the effort to solve this, it will never be solved period. Thank you for your ideas.

Guys, we need to find an alternative to the current comp format. Something that could be done in stages BUT not with all of it at the same time with each stage only lasting for a short amount of time. This way you'd have far less sandbagging and less of the site getting slammed at the end (Or so we'd hope). Also make the stages as elimination rounds allowing only those teams that make the cut proceeding ot the second/next stage of the comp itself, so on and so on. This year we had what I would call 4 stages, namely SC1 through SC4 with an assortment of benchies within each. I'd say the top 20 goes on from the first stage, then the top 10 for the third and the top 3 teams for the final round. Most would think top 2 but having a third team there would spice things up a bit. The benchies in each stage isn't announced until it opens, this way (Hopefully) no one gets the jump on others.... Keeping stages unknown until it's time has been an issue in the past I know, that would need addressing if it hasn't been already. Each stage could only be for about a week so there woudn't be too much sandbagging, you'd still have it of course but not as bad as before. Something along these lines would cut down on the excessive sandbagging since you really can't hold them for long anyway AND you'd have a limited amount of time to make them count, not to mention it would probrably be easier on the server too, esp after the first stage is done. Just an idea to be considered. I believe something like this has been done before but the way the Team Cup is now it's been alot of trouble and headache to deal with. If we need to start another thread that woudn't be a bad idea for discussion. What do you guys think? Ideas? Let's hear 'em. :celebration:

Would be sad to retire it. Just this morning I dug out a really old 21' CRT to solve my prob with not having enough resolution to fully display the box unobscured. Didn't know if it could do it but did so with ease as it turns out. As long as it works I'll be using it period - Looks like I've got Texas sitting on my bench but with all that space taken up it had better have the resolution. Websmile, you and the rest have done a great job and it's more than just appreciated. Undoubtedly it takes time away from the more personal aspects of your life so doesn't need to be wasted on such meaningless crap like this. The fact you guys do it at all speaks well of your dedication to the site and what we do overall. Thank you.

Gee..... I'm wondering if it's a hardware problem related to the server(s) not being able to handle the load. If so get some sponsors to help out. They certainly reap the benefits of the site and could legitimately even call it an investment/advertising/whatever for a writeoff when they do it. By helping the bot they help themselves too. Just a thought here.

As an example: Speaking of errors, could Griff please explain this? I'm not talking about the bench result window either. GRIFF`s Cinebench - R15 score: 150 cb with a Opteron 180 If one of you missed it, how in hell does air cooling equal SS according to the entry's photo and reported cooling method? It's one thing to simply forget about the pic, it's another when what you post clearly isn't what you ran in the first place according to your own sub info. I understand you have the right to report subs with problems and that in itself isn't an issue.... Just be sure you're own backside is clean and covered before going on a reporting spree. Just sayin.