Bones

I guess it doesn't matter if it's Knobblerbrute or whoever, whatever team we talk about there's always the possibility of some funny stuff going on. Hopefully the respective captains of each team will help keep things straight.

One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is the fact there are a few here with an insane amount of points vs others to the point if and when they should decide to swap teams it skews the team rankings for a bit. The top 3 teams haven't had much activity lately related to swapping places but all three are within 2000 points of each other. We at CP have been bumped by OCF a few times since aquiring the 4th place spot so there's competition in that as well with OCN nipping at OCF's heels. This means at least the top 6 spots are indeed being contested, it's just not so noticeable for now with the points spread between 3rd and 4th place and with all three top teams just going at it and keeping pace with each other..... Or maybe just not doing alot ATM but I doubt it. There is alot of competition going on, I don't see a need to once again change things around for now - Let it ride because I'm sure once the Country Cup starts we'll see some competition.

Gotcha - However I believe I'll stand pat where I'm at. I was curious about the premise of the team itself overall - Looks like you guys will have some fun.

Nah - I'd go broke trying to get all those GPUs and you'd disown me since I'm such a terrible 3D bencher anyway...... I'll admit that's never been a strong point for me.

Hmmm.... Sounds interesting. Is this for a future comp that's AMD only or something? A temporary AMD-only league of some kind done as a comp with teams within it? :battle:

It's no harder to OC them than anything else, trick it to get the right pieces and figure out how to tweak them, just like all the rest. As for availability, I can't participate in the majority of comps hosted here because I don't have/can't get the "Correct" pieces needed but I'm not complaining about it so much - Again it's the same as it's been with other comps. I don't know who decided what and maybe that was a bit of a goof but the oddity of it is part of the challenge in the first place. I don't mind trying something that's off the wall just to see if I can even do it. However I do agree it has to be rooted in reality as in whether or not it's feasable. I did host a comp once that had PI Fast running with 18 iterations instead of the usual 6, that made it more of a stability run like 32M Super PI. Also capped the speed at 2800MHz to make it a real challenge for tweaking RAM to get the best results and it was based on Socket 939, hence the 2800MHz cap. Comps can be done in many different ways, the challenge is to dream it in the first place and come up with a workable format to make it a reality.

Looks legit to me - I checked that and yes, the board model he used does have onboard graphics. His GPU-Z reading shows he did use the onboard IGP so from here it looks valid. However let the mods do their job, I do believe this one will stand but if it's borked somehow, I'm sure they'll say so.

Nice run!

Looks like I have work to do in this socket and will get around to that once the weather begins to cool down here.

No heatspreader, looking at the bare core of the GPU to get the info of what it "is". I agree, seems ATI made several variants of this card model but all look to be more or less the same in their overall specs. Maybe a touch more RAM on one model or something (Later revision?) but roughly the same thing.

Seems that I have one not listed in those links, an ATI 3D Rage Pro Turbo.... However could be it is one of the linked cards with a different name, I dunno. I have at least three variants of the Rgae cards including the one shown in the first link.

I don't recall selecting that BUT may have checked/unchecked the box for some reason. I'll go for a redo and see if it does right this time around. Thanks and if it still does it after making sure it's for public viewing I'll let you know. EDIT: That was it - I made sure I didn't have a brain-fart and uncheck the box, it's working. Thanks!

All day today I've been getting this even though it's files from different systems including this one at stock. Says it's validated but with the big red "?" instead of the usual info, looks like it would be considered not valid. I've basically tried several CPU-Z files for validation and all are doing it. Here's what I'm talking about, does have all the relevant info but with the red "?"..... ??

I take it yours is acting up with everything you try it with right? Mine works OK with all else as mentioned so it's not actually retired, just put back for whenever I may want to use it again.

I too have had problems with the older CHV version except mine are when using a 8320, loses dual channel and nothing I do affects it. All other chips I use including my 4300 work fine in it and I know it's not the CPU, works as it should in my CHV-Z and Sabertooth boards. The fact it's a Vishera shouldn't be it either or my 4300 would act up too but it doesn't do that. What you are describing isn't too far from what happened with one of these I had bought new and it ran fine for about 3 weeks, no real OC'ing had been done since I was still learning the board - Then for some reason it began throwing an "Out of range error" related to USB and nothing I did would correct the problem. The BIOS was also "Stuck" as you described and was doing much of the same, it would not save any changes and always defaulted to whatever it wanted to do and that was it. I finally had to RMA it and the CHV I have now is it's replacement and it hasn't done that but the issue with my 8 cored chip is still there with no solution. BIOS updates and the like all failed to fix it, in fact the BIOS was updated BEFORE I set the 8320 in to the newest version. I believe these early version boards are picky/quirky about things and do remember that when Asus first released these they were having to do RMA's all over the place, it seems the first few runs of these were buggy and since yours is similar to the one I had that could be it. My solution was to get a CHV-Z along with a Sabertooth 2.0, pop it in and run it. The 8320 is doing fine in those boards but no so much in the CHV. Yeah, it makes me go hmmmmm..... I know others have ran such chips with no issues in the older CHV's and could be just one of those "Things" associated with these.

Can't let Splave have all the fun. http://hwbot.org/submission/2911600_bones_superpi___32m_fx_4100_15min_31sec_547ms?recalculate=true Still tweaking ATM.

Already done and version 1.60 and newer will lock things up. From 1.59 and older works no prob and note that this is the point when CPU-Z began to be shown as X32 or X64 versions instead of just plain old CPU-Z. I don't know how things were changed in it but these changes are the obvious culprit here.

So far it's done it whether I'm running a stripped OS or not with every Socket A setup to my name. Haven't paid much attention to a USB device in use being a possible culprit but since I'm currently installing a stock/nonstripped OS on an A, I'll see what happens. I don't use USB periphials whenever it's possible to run PS2 with both a keyboard and mouse so I doubt I had one in use in the past with these issues BUT I'll be sure of it this time.

There's also the problem with some like myself having trouble with CPU-Z not working with a Socket A to get a validation. To this day the newer versions will not work for me, locks up the system everytime.

Noted when I ran it with my 560-448 GPU the validation file when submitted had the submission info boxes open and it showed the card as a regular 560, not a 560-448 and these are indeed different cards. Had to edit the entry once done to place the results into the correct hardware heading. I don't know if that wiped out the validation file or not for the entry but I did submit it and still have it here if needed. There will be a few issues like this I know, just pointing out one here to be worked on or at least to make it known. Another thing is the 6870's are ignored due to the double precision issue so I guess they don't support it. I do have the latest drivers loaded into the OS for it (Omega drivers ver 14.12 with dotnet 45 for Win 7 64 bit). Downloaded the drivers only two days ago and I guess these GPUs would have to be ran with the legacy version - I'll try it and see whether it works or not.

I'll try it again - Thanks for checking. EDIT: Worked this time, I don't know why it woudn't come up earlier but it did just now.

There is a problem - I'm not getting the proper version of this board to come up ( DFI LP UT CFX3200 ), Instead it's coming up as the Intel version of this board (LanParty UT ICFX3200 T2R/G). I know at least you did set it up but it's doing this. Need this fixed please - Thanks!

Checked to see and this one is not in the database so need it added please. Here's a link you can use for more info:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813136009 Validation: http://valid.canardpc.com/8t6twq Thanks!

I'll throw in a tip or two myself. I noted you're running a fairly high multiplier (23x), sometimes with these chips using a little less multi and a little more FSB gets more from them. Of course this will affect things such as RAM speeds and your CPU/NB speed with what you finally get but it's something you can experiment with. The deal is simple - Try any and everything (That's HWbot legal of course). Haven't noted it being mentioned but don't forget to use the Bulldozer conditioner, that will help out alot if you're not using it already.

Thank you for the info.