mickulty

Yeah, and also someone who's studied electrical engineering for a couple of years at university level, though V=IR is more a high school thing.

Technically, as I'm sure you know, current kills CPUs. Current scales with voltage. Less voltage = less current = alive chip.

That's an Intel issue, you can't magically do that with software. Someone doesn't want to deal with that, they gonna call for a ban on Intel CPUs? Not knowing a voltage is killer until it kills is the same on anything. I know it's galling to think you got away with it and turn out to be wrong but look at it this way, at least they got the run first ?

hahahaha, wow, didn't realise how immature some people can be. You kill a chip and blame the benchmark for putting it under load? Seriously? Can I get pifast demoted if I kill a modern CPU by giving it 3V to the core? Competitive OC has to have some tenuous relevance to normal people, that means real-world benchmarks that actually use the capabilities of modern hardware, not the same x87 crap from 1995. So you have to change your voltage and maxmem settings, boo hoo. Benchmarks don't kill chips, voltage kills chips. You should all be thanking havli for making a proper modern benchmark with visual feedback and scalability with overkill to extreme core counts that can still be run on stuff right back to Coppermine, not insisting that because you can't bench it safely it's not a good benchmark. BTW there's no point in a non-AVX version. It'd just be pandering to the kind of people who are never happy anyway. Just let them entertain themselves with their meaningless zero-load frequency validations (which there is a place for, but other competitive OC has no obligation to emulate them). Oh, while I'm at it, ycruncher should get points as well. Needs revising for offline data file saving without TAGG's workaround and I guess its own JRE/libraries like x265 has so it's not a PITA to set up, but ultimately it's a good, meaningful bench that showcases a different aspect of performance (very high memory size requirement) while again still working on very old hardware unlike CB15.

Current leagues lead to a lot of meta-benching. Ambient benchers who are enthusiastic to try better cooling shy away from ice, chillers and (if they're honest ones) putting rads outside because they don't wanna bench against dice. Apprentice benchers shy away from trying LN2, or at least from posting the scores they get, because they don't wanna bench against people who own dewars and get regular LN2 deliveries. If the leagues are brought together I think we'd see more creative cooling, that has to be good. One thing, if the leagues are all merged might need to reset the achievements for league position.

That makes sense ?

But if he achieved even 20,000 on the same hardware this year it wouldn't count because he got 20,630 in 2016? Or am I missing something?

Probably makes more sense, thinking about it. Otherwise people who have got top scores in the past are at a huge disadvantage not because they're less active now, but because they can't get points for scores this year when they already got a better score last year (unless people sandbag...). This actually seems like it may be a problem for seasonal rankings in general. Say me and nachtfalke both posted a fairly low-effort HD 4890 vantage score of 16K, probably not too difficult on modern physics platforms, I'd get 5 seasonal points but nachtfalke would get 0 because he already made an amazing score on cascade in 2016 - that doesn't seem fair. Some kind of dynamic ranking would be good though. Maybe a "champion's ranking" based on globals + recent competitions?

9900K and 8086K are the same socket. Same for 6950X+5960X, 2990WX+1950X. Yos and unity are both trolling. Understandably. It's one thing to check for bad hardware combinations, but I don't think you can expect people to hold your hand and tell you that LGA2066 is also capable of very high BCLK in the same way 1151 is.

Rev.6 was taking forever to calculate Rev.7 is a buggy mess If Rev.8 will be easier to maintain, I'm all for it. I do wonder though, is it really a good idea in terms of code base and server load to bring in a seasonal ranking at the same time as trying to simplify things? I'm neutral on the concept but maybe one thing at a time. Mostly I just want hwbot to work and be reliable, we can worry about the meta later...

What would you know?

Fastest score with specific cooling isn't a "world record", you might as well claim a world record for the fastest cinebench score by someone called mikegold10

You mean before you raised Vcore like everyone else does, or before you delidded like everyone else does?

HWBOT Premium: $4.99/week, account required to submit for all benchmarks except catzilla, ycruncher, XTU and VRMark.

$1300 fee to be eligible for 3D globals, perhaps? Technically no different to the current system...

Holy crap nox

Sorry, quick follow-up/afterthought - there was some suggestion before that socket was by board and not CPU, is this still the case? So for example (to pick the most annoying examples) a Crosshair IV with an FX-8150 would count as AM3, a Crosshair V with a sempron 145 would count as AM3+? Sorry to be awkward

hypothetical example, not ideal hardware

Ok so to be clear, does that mean bclk submissions could be; 1151v1 1151v2 AM3+ AM3 AM2+ AM2 ?

It'll probably recalculate and lose us points too, leaving us below what we'd have had if other team members had filled in instead. It's not about esports points though, it's about the spirit of it and what we can do as a community without excluding people who also have their own projects. I'm proud of the openness of /r/oc and really glad we didn't have to leave people in the cold just because they aren't always giving us team points.

Cheers, and grats on the well-deserved win. We'll get you next year

Thanks for the work, must be a lot to pour through - I appreciate the effort you're putting in. Unless you delete any of our subs in which case you can sod off (JK)

Thanks @Leeghoofd for a really fun competition. I think it's fair to say our second place (assuming rankings stay as they are at the point the comp closed) is a third in spirit, I know the rankings would look very different if you hadn't been so busy organising the competition for everyone else.

hahahahaha, well played

Awesome work, amazed you found a DDR1 board that plays well with these old mobile chips.