mickulty

DDR2 record holder and generally someone known for insane memory speed/performance, but sadly seems to be retired - @Noxinite

Good score, that's a nice chip!

AvE FTW

That's with a 7860K. It's not listed anywhere but "just works" without any messing around.

@Leeghoofd please could you add AMD Radeon R7 (512 Shaders) + HD 7750 Dual Graphics? Alternatively AMD Radeon R7 (512 Shaders) + R7 250 Dual Graphics could be changed to AMD Radeon R7 (512 Shaders) + R7 200 Dual Graphics to encompass the 7750 option as GPU-Z thinks they're the same, and it could be difficult for users to pick the right one because of how long the name is... EDIT: Ignore my ramblings about name length, it actually shows up fine, dunno what I was thinking

Board run out of Vcore.

@chew* overclocking as a hobby is already not really cost effective, my point is that if people are genuine enthusiasts who wanna compete to extract the most performance then they still can.

Even if a future processor gets really good at extracting every last drop of performance, and even if we ignore running at unstable settings or with unsafe voltage, you can still work on performance by doing stuff with cooling. Also, let's not forget memory tuning. The community of casual AMD users has mostly decided that processor OC for Ryzen 2nd and 3rd gen starts and ends with PBO, but that's led to more people scratching their tuning itch with obsessive memory tweaking. Mostly I've seen this expressed by posting aida64 screenshots on discord and reddit, and IMO a feeling seems to have developed that there's something magic about sub-60ns memory latency in aida64 with a Ryzen processor. Maybe it would be good to have more memory benchmarks on HWBOT ?

Retail hardware is treated as a 'black box', and post-retail modifications aren't treated as changing what the hardware is (this also goes for unlocking 6950s, 290s, furies, X800 Pro VIVOs etc even if the unlocked 290 is 'effectively' a 290X in basically every way). The real peculiarity is the BGA to LGA chips, there might be a case for them getting their own hardware category if "dodgy ebay/aliexpress seller" can be counted as "retail", whereas currently it seems to have defaulted to them being treated as a socket adapter with added convinience.

https://xkcd.com/2129/

25% interested in OC and 10% of those interested in competitive OC are both very ambitious IMO. You also have a third percentage for people who can do competitive OC - the vast majority of these gamers are kids, they might only have use of a small bedroom with no space for a separate bench system, even if they wanted one and could afford the hardware. To be honest though, competitive OC is a hobby not a business for 99.9%. Why invest time and effort into trying to grow it like it's a business? We shouldn't be worrying about how to market the hobby, we should be doing the hobby. I'm sure an army of motivated volunteers could grow hwbot to 2x where it is currently, but what would the benefit of that be? Would it be more fun for anyone? Would these new people build it up, or drain it? I think the best thing is what guys including buildzoid, keeph8n and mythical tech do where they share what they've done and the fun they've had with it on various platforms, but leave it to the people watching to decide if they want to do the same. If someone gets into it because they want to that's much better than getting into it because they were told to by someone trying to grow what doesn't need to grow.

I can't imagine those guys will last in the hobby unless their attitude changes. Advice to newbies: from when I started with a junk P4 system on ambient to more recently with a proper OC board and LN2, I've always had more fun working hard on a single score even if that one score isn't worth much. Cheesing golds on obscure hardware makes for a nice trophy cabinet but isn't satisfying (I would know). 3 LN2 sessions and 4 corrupted OS's for one pifast score is satisfying. Speaking of this the price tag is only higher to get world records and top 3D scores on modern GPUs. Which yes, isn't ideal, and I still think it would be nice if there were more ways to get up there on points by working hard without having to drop so much cash. But you can still compete on some very cheap hardware. To the thread topic, overclocking isn't dying. There are new people getting into it all the time. Some of these people are definitely happy to put the work in. Sure, it's not as big as some of the biggest hobbies in the world like competitive fortnite... but so what?

Great to see these old monsters in action!

@Seal2fast are either GPU pots still available?

This makes sense. It solves the problem that Vega M while 'dedicated-like' is still inextricably linked to the CPU. The HD 3200, 3300, 4200, 4250 and 4290 IGPs support "sideport" memory according to wikipedia, these would also fall into this category. There are probably also some much much older examples.

Clarkdale's IGP is also the memory controller. I think that all IGPs in the last couple of decades appear to be part of chips that have other purposes as well (CPU, northbridge, chipset or BMC), whereas all discrete GPUs are separate chips. To futureproof against chiplets I would also suggest that any GPU that uses exclusively system memory is an IGP, whereas a GPU that normally doesn't use system memory is not an IGP.

When did anyone say that was the "theme of the comp"? It's an attitude some people take and push, no more than that.

Woah. Do they always do that, or is it a thing with Asus cold volts?

Ooh, nice. How warm did it have to be to keep 1:1 UCLK?

@cbjaust I posted about this too in the main CC thread (didn't see your post) - FYI leeg has fixed it now

Brilliant, it seems to work now, thank you!

Do you mean 4CoreDual? And if so, why would someone do that?

See, I was just talking about magical inefficiency with good hardware. Sessions go badly for everyone.

Can't post a Hybrid score to Stage 8 as the stage is set up to limit to 1 core, whereas the database (sensibly) sees it as 2 cores. Cas has fix pls?

Remind me? I just remember the athlon FX that was at legitimately high clocks on LN2, with DDR2-400 mem.