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  1. Blocked most top scores. I will continue tomorrow, got 4.5h sleep tonight, so kinda tired I wonder if there will be any complaints... THanks fr the help on these numbers. WPR would be cool to know as well. And Audio compression.
  2. Whacked a couple of TE 100k+ scores Wish I knew more about stock TW scores... should be possible to remove a bunch of those soon enough.
  3. Well, 05 is not very multithreaded, so only weak CPUs will see a performance drop I suppose. But don't block mouse movement. Moving the mouse is harmless. Not sure if you intend to do that, but then we have an issue with the mouse tweak
  4. What sort of software? It just feels weird. I think we said something like any gain above 10% should be proven to be legit if we should accept it, so we need to verify that it is OK. I haven't seen it in action myself, so I have no clue. Seeing the effect in other apps is a step in the right direction, but a closer look at the windows and compare them with what they look like without the tweak would be very helpful. If the windows look the same, then I'd say it's a legit tweak. Until then it looks fishy because of the gain.
  5. I know, it was just to clarify that the drive change thing is kinda forced upon the guys who bench, so there must be an "easy" way to get a valid result. if we don't allow drive changes we have to either remove the limit, or hardcode it to 220 if it's at 220 or higher. I think I explained a way to do that somewhere, but there's not enough interest from the guys who run this place to do it
  6. No, not in my opinion - changing the drive doesn't mean that the calculation procedure is any different. Plus, the reason we have to do it is because of the 220 cap - so if we remove the cap, then the benchmark runs the way it was intended, and there is no longer a need to change that damn drive right?
  7. OK, so 01 gives a 100% boost in score if you change run order and run it "fresh boot" style? The gain is several times bigger in this case, in fact comparing it to the 01 fresh boot/run order boosts just confirms that something very well could be fishy. Not saying this tweak should not give a boost at all, I just find it very strange that it is so huge. Would be interesting to see a high frequency video of a run so we can take a closer look at the individual windows. If it's not possible to see a difference, then it's fine with me - then it just makes the theme really efficient. However, what if there are parts that are not rendered correctly? Then it's obviously a tweak that causes a bug. On a side note, if IE registry settings makes you unable to use the browser, isn't it also reasonable to say that this indeed bugs out IE9? I mean, it's about opening a webpage, but if IE9 refuses to open a webpage at all, how can anyone say that the test runs as it should?
  8. That's what I thought. Now, someone explain to me why such a boost is possible without bugging the test:p
  9. I wonder how internet explorer looks like if you open hwbot, then
  10. Assuming Bob's tweak doesn't cause a bug. I never got it to work. What sort of gains do you see? If the gain is huge, then it's most likely a bug - if the gain is small, then it could be that a newly refreshed theme just works a tad better.
  11. If you ask me, the bob tweak seems like a glitch - there's absolutely no reason whatsoever that doing what he did should give a huge boost. However, I'm open for arguments - if someone can actually prove that it does in fact increase the efficiency without glitching the bench, go ahead. Changing options in IE is OK. I don't think there are any settings in that program that makes the WPR test bug out.
  12. Pro won't have any active pcmark05 subs, he asked for that himself to remain impartial. CN takes care of his own scores, I'll do the same (but never used any of these tweaks, so no scores to block )
  13. Whenever a newspost pops up. I'm not the guy writing it, but I guess massman and/or pro should have an idea. I'll start pulling scores on thursday afternoon my time if nothing has happened until then, got some assignments at uni next week so that seems like a very nice time to do some work.
  14. There is a difference in type of cheating. Should we ban people when they use Physx as well? Hey, I'd be happy to ban you for 2 years if you have the wrong tab open in CPUZ let me know if you think it's OK and I'll check some of your results for these things. This was done in good faith, although common sense should've kicked in and made people realize these tweaks really couldn't be legit because of the crazy boosts.
  15. It COULD be that CN got to know the tweaks by himself. However, as I've already said - it's probably easier to demand that the tweak is explained here, in a public section. Then no moderator has an edge compared to the other benchers (who can, if they wish, check this forum on a regular basis). If you want a dedicated moderator that does not participate I think you have to dig deep to find enough. I'd consider it if I had alot less points and would get paid for the work I did, much like massman is doing now - getting an OK paycheck compared to the standards in the country he's living in (Belgian standard at least before he moved).
  16. if a certain registry or windows setting causes the computation to be "useless", it's still not allowed. Your hard work is worth nothing if it isn't within the rules in the first place:p So everyone who worked out how to replace temp files kinda wasted their time.
  17. The mem latency one I do not get, and I haven't checked out flash desktop or the DWM settings, but the others are clear cheats. No grey area, definately no-no. They all involve a manipulation of the calculation.
  18. Make it fully public. I don't care, the important part is that the mods will have a chance to verify the tweak as a tweak and not a cheat. From a moderator's point of view that's what matters. And showing to one member of the staff isn't enough, there MUST be a thread on the crew section so ALL of us can check it. Otherwise you'd have the same situation as we had until recently, where just one or two knew the tricks and could tell right from wrong. I wouldn't pull my points if someone offered me a million dollars:D
  19. Because if you find something that raises the score too much there is a VERY high chance you're manipulating the calculation. Most of the new tweaks are indeed cheats (yes, I use that word), and that proves my point. If it's too good to be true, then it probably is. A "normal" tweak would boost the score by a couple of percent max. It's what we're used to from most other benchmarks.
  20. How a user shows the tweaks is not our choice, it can be a public thread. And tbh I doubt that if those tweaks were "mod public" they'd stay that way. That would be ethically wrong. No need to comment on the rest of your post, then?
  21. I can ask you to prove that it's legit. By your reasoning we'd have to accept 30GHz CPUZ subs, too. We can't PROVE that your submission is wrong, but if a subtest score goes up "too much" it gets so suspicious that you have to offer additional proof, which effectively means showing your tweak to us so we can verify that it's legit.
  22. You need to prove that is legit, though. An untweaked score will be MUCH lower, and benefit of doubt won't be given. We'll clean the rankings once we know exactly how to proceed, and there will be a newspost regarding the "new rules" (which are not really new at all, it's just that people seem to ignore them when they bench pcm05). Hooray, progress, thanks to the new crew members
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