knopflerbruce

...so if the 9400gt 1gb card would be named 9400gt+ and had 10mhz higher core frequency then you would add it to the database..?

Hwbot separated 9800gtx and gtx+ - the difference between those two is negligible. Which is why I'm thinking some mods treat these principles differently... someone must've added that gtx+, and I bet it wasn't you who did it;)

You can always ask a different mod, some mods add all new cards without asking, jmke does not;)

Most of the results are 1gb cards. If they need to add another, I'd say it's a 512mb version:p

It's not allowed, but you can act like you don't know, and no-one will ever find out;)

http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=785877 Definately wrong version of pifast (compare Total Physical Memory Allocated with other submissions... not to mention the clock speed vs time), and no CPUZ screenie either.

Use the correct wprime version.

Ticket ID: 257 Priority: Low http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=531845 - 200x8 stock

Ticket ID: 256 Priority: Low http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=531832 - 200*8 stock...

Been waiting for that moment for a while:p I need some dryice and more CPUs to take the REAL #1 spot, though... If I had unlimited supply of dice I guess I'd have about 16-1700 points;) Didn't do much pi32m or wprime1024m when I always had 8kg and 20 chips to test:rolleyes:

It's obviously a bug with CPUZ, so it should be considered valid despite CPUZ thinking it's faked or whatever;). WHat you CAN do, perhaps, is to make a cvf file on v1.49 and send it to Franck Delattre for him to upload it manually.

Ticket ID: 249 Priority: Low I noticed a nasty bug in the HW master list. It looked as if thery time I puished F5 the top score would disappear! Now the list is empy... (I still have my points and cups, though)

Well, there are alot of comments about this issue on XS. Alot of peoble cant validate their Denebs, even at stock speed if my memory is correct. I don't really see why that red sign appears sometimes, either. If it's a corrupted file, then why allow it to be uploaded at all..?

I agree to that. But your post looked a bit as if you were thinking all of them looked reasonable for the CPU type/speed, which is why I started talking about PP.

He's quite correct about some of the performance products being a "bit" too good for single channel setups of this kind. Deleting them is perhaps wrong, but they need to be moved to the corresponding 939 category. http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=527638 84563 http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=506003 84480 http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=504456 86064. but a8n-e is a 939 mobo so no 754 result http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=511146 84750 These are the sub 86k ones I found in OP's list, but I have a feeling that the "limit" of s754 is alot higher than that. Just need to test some more before I conclude, my 90k runs were not very optimized:p Performance products are quite handy in situastions like this, but I hope there is enough knowledge in the crew about K8 that they see that these PP's are jsut as bad as a 42k PP would be on an E8600, and therefore need to be moved;)

...PCMark05 gives correct results for some kind of HDD's, right? If so, perhaps a solution is to not allow HW that creates unreal scores in these subtests.

...or, to look at it from a different standpoint, you can work your ass off, producing scores no-one would ever imagine yould be possible on that old gear, but what do you get? 200th place (beaten by a bunch of people who have access to extreme cooling + hw, and only fill up the pots to get great scores), when you deserve to be in top 5 because of great skill;)

It's possible to have limits for the subtests that "kill" the benchmark. It's better than no benchmark, at least.

Not sure it's possible to have it for hardware points only, but that would perhaps be the best..? It would really be a shame if thousands of normal results will be "worthless" because only a TINY minority of the results cause trouble.

Can't any of you just add these two lines to the wprime submission pages: "From today, 8 march 2009, a screenshot of wprime is now required - any submissions with only a wprime link may be blocked if they're reported" Seriously, this cheat is so simple and so hard to discover it's a MUST to get it fixed NOW!!! All it takes is to add those words, quite simp,e actually. Btw, if I start submitting scores by using the online submission system, will I be prone to suspicion because of my whining about wprime? Just asking, as I'm a bit tired of making screenies anyway If I could submit scores directly it would be better.

I think this requires a post on the main page;)

...even if you unlock it it's still an X3 720/X4 810:) This is very much the same as what we did to NV40 back in the 6800LE days.

If a whole series of cards is bugged, then waht?

Well, how can you determine who are abusing the loophole and who are not? But yeah, it's not a problem until people start flooding the bot with these accounts. IF that happens, make some new rules. For the time being, let's keep them as they are. I bet alot of the talking in here is about principles, and not serious "threats" about creating subteams just for points. Besides, as you say, there is not really much to gain anyway - except in certain special situations where one dude has the money and the other has the skill or something:p

Sure, I live in a wealthy country. But that doesn't mean I'm rich, students over here get VERY little. After food, rent, subway ticket, phone bill I have like €50 left. That's not much at all for HW. However, I can still afford alot as I cut down as much as I can on my food expenses and phone calls;) Not saying it's a smart choice, but it's an option for the less fortunate of us. But of course, if you must go out and drink beer every weekend, then you need a decent job to be able to bench good HW if you have a low-paid job in a "poor" country.