Strunkenbold

IMHO, creating too much categorys for the same hardware aren't the way to go. Its like example with IS7 mobos. I would rather see them merged. So e.g. GMA HD (Sandy Bridge) and GMA HD 2000 should stay one section. I had one proposal for a more elegant solution. What about make something like a symbolic link between these categorys? Lets say we create a section for GMA HD (Sandy Bridge) Corename GT1 and GMA HD 2000 Corename GT2, but instead of having a ranking for each section alone we would unite these. So both GPUs would appear in one ranking sharing points and cups. This would have the advantage that we could keep exact names, so users wouldn't get irritated and submit to wrong categorys. I try to compile a list: HD Graphics (Clarkdale) Mobile HD Graphics (Arrandale) HD Graphics (Sandy Bridge) --> HD Graphics 2000 Mobile HD Graphics (Sandy Bridge) HD Graphics 3000 --> HD Graphics P3000 Mobile HD Graphics 3000 HD Graphics (Ivy Bridge) --> HD Graphics 2500 Mobile HD Graphics (Ivy Bridge) HD Graphics 4000 --> HD Graphics P4000 Mobile HD Graphics 4000 I think this would be a good choice, just to keep a consistent name scheming. Also as per wiki the Codename of the GPU (both desktop and mobile) is Ironlake. GPU-Z seems to report things incorrectly.

monthly bump...

It astonishes me that you say something like that after 4 pages of discussion. Right now your arguments are: Mobile and Desktop CPUs feature the same gpu in any aspects so no new extra separated sections. Also Intel says that there are no differences. If we handle things like that Im fine with it. But as I saw in the database we create categorys in another manner: -same chip different socket --> new section -same chip but gpu-z/cpu-z reports different code name --> new section Some examples: -Thunderbirds and also Coppermine CPUs where available for Slot and Socket systems ---> why extra category? Arent they same chips? The user could always choose the more advanced Socket Mobos, no one would even bother running a Slot system. -Intel GMA 950 has a code name for mobile and desktop variants, but where is technically the difference between those? Aside clockrates, nothing! Im sure, just write Intel an email and ask... So my conclusion is: Mobile Sandy Bridge and Clarkdale chips should get their own section, desktop and mobile have the same codename but from what we learned now, Intel gives out Codenames like they want. It has nothing todo with technical differences. But what we know is that every socket brings new boards, new cpu's and other aspects that make these not 1:1 comparable. I mean we have e.g. categorys for Abit IS7, IS7-E and IS7-G. We award points for what? One has a extra raid controller? And we make such a fuss about creating a category where you can actually measure performance differences? Aside from that, I had to report 10+ submissions to clean the GMA HD (mobile) section again. And this in only 3 months!

Are there any news here? Is there atleast a suggestion?

bump. Please add Callisto and Heka to the list. These are all Denebs with just one deactivated core. And these were Highend chips because they were all BEs. When you allow Athlon II budget cpu's with deactivated cache, you should also allow cpu's with deactivated cores. At least this is what makes sense to me....

I need this RAM! nice job!

I was referring to this: Or am I wrong here?

I think I saw some bug fixed in the release notes which could affect this. Could you try again?

Impressive cpu

Source???

Thx, this is indeed very lucky. Best out of 5 chips. The other one's cant even do 3 GHz.... @ObscureParadox No just WinXp, there shouldnt be much difference between those two anyway... Oh and sorry, I just didnt read this earlier.

Wish I had a cpu like this. Absolutely outstanding result. Ram freq is just crazy on this platform....

Dont know if this has reported before, but anyway it should be a quick one. On every benchmark page (like wprime 32) with "Overclock record overview", the displayed position of the personal best is the position of the user in the specific hardware ranking not in the global ranking.

Congrats on result! But according to the new rules you need to display result.txt and picture of storage. So please resubmit. thx!

Ongoing discussion? Something to add. As you added earlier today a K6-2+ 400, we might want to add the whole product line. #1 the link you posted for the k6-2+ 400 doesnt work, it leads to the normal, non plus version #2 Rename K6-2 570Mhz to K6-2+ 570Mhz #3 add K6-2+ 350Mhz #4 add K6-2+ 475Mhz #5 add K6-III 333Mhz #6 add K6-III 350Mhz #7 add k6-III 366Mhz #8 add k6-III 380Mhz #9 add k6-III 433Mhz #10 add k6-III+ 366Mhz #11 add k6-III+ 475Mhz #12 add k6-III+ 500Mhz #13 add k6-III+ 550Mhz #14 rename all K6-3 cpu's to K6-III #15 rename all K6 cpu's from "mhz" to "Mhz" more info: http://www.amd-k6.com/cpu-specs/

I guess the bot does automatically removing the zero... Would be different if he scored 27.08 and fills in 27.8 then he actually gave time away.... Is there any reason why you dont fill in 27.78 according to your screenshot? edit: nevermind bobnova already said everything...

Easy to fix but shouldnt happen anyway. One user with two results with points in ranking.

Is this still under discussion or is there something wrong about this?

Yup, and having this list like that here on HWBot would be perfectly fine. Atleast as we already started with this scheme with GMA HD. Its using same gpu in desktop and mobile (Iron Lake). The only fact is that GPU-Z says incorrectly Arrendale and Clarkdale. Now if we say everything is one, regardless of socket or marketing name, we would have to unite these also. Moreover, GPU-Z started to report Sandy Bridge GPU's now correctly. Means GT1 for HD, GT2 for HD2000 and GT2+ for HD3000. Atleast I dont know what speaking against creating multiple sections. I would be very interested to know if theres some kind rule on HWBot which makes it clear what qualify's for a new hardware category and what not.

Some database fixes: #1 change core name of "82810 Integrated Graphics" to Whitney #2 change core name of "82815 Integrated Graphics" to Solano #3 change the name of "82830 Integrated Graphics" to Extreme Graphics Mobile (830GM) and its core to Almador #4 change the name of "82845G Integrated Graphics" to Extreme Graphics Desktop (845G(L,V)) and change core name to Brookdale #5 Merge 82852 Integrated Graphics and 82852 Integrated Graphics to Extreme Graphics 2 Mobile (852GM(E), 854, 855GM(E)) and change core name to Montara #6 change name of GMA 865 to Extreme Graphics 2 Desktop (865G(V)) and its core name to Springfield

Some more info: http://www.notebookcheck.com/Intel-HD-Graphics-Sandy-Bridge.56666.0.html http://ark.intel.com/products/53492/Intel-Pentium-Processor-G860-3M-Cache-3_00-GHz Please also add: Intel GMA HD (Ivy Bridge) http://ark.intel.com/products/65527/Intel-Pentium-Processor-G2120-3M-Cache-3_10-GHz Intel GMA P4000 http://ark.intel.com/products/65733/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E3-1225V2-8M-Cache-3_20-GHz

Ticket ID: 1639 Priority: Medium Please add Intel GMA HD (Sandy Bridge) to database.

I just came across this submission. Intel says its HD Graphics. Not HD2000 or HD3000. Seems we are missing a category here: GMA HD (Sandy Bridge)

Ok, thats what we already knew then... Though, we could debate now if the different sockets make a difference. As we have cpu's in the database that are 1:1 identical except their connection to the mobo. Doing the same for integrated graphic cards would be just consequent.

Well Im fine with this decision... I will start reporting the submissions which are in the wrong category. (plenty of work) Next thing: 945GME should be renamed in 945GSE (or GMA 950 (atom))as stated in post #2 GMA 950 with 64bit Memory bus should get their own section