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Since my Zen platform is no functioning now (I think a metal washer from the cooling block shorted something), I'm gonna play some Llano. I only hope the 1800X is alive, since it can do DDR4-3800+ tight and has pretty good cores as well, but haven't tested it on LN2 yet.

I would be interested in socket 7, socket A, socket 939, AM2(+) AMD CPUs, but it would take me a lot of time to compare your tables with mine and tell you what I'm missing. Would definitely buy many CPUs depending on price to fill missing models in my collections. Pretty interested in all A64 FX CPUs, although I don't have FX-60 only. Maybe some of the higher rated Opterons, others I have. Interested in NF4 SLI-DR Expert Venus as well - the only board I don't have from DFI's NF4 lineup.

Hmm, maybe things have changed, but I remember it was working this way, because it happened to me as well in the past. But I haven't validated anything for quite some time. Maybe my memories have faded away, don't know.

You should wait, but I don't know what is the period set on the site. Just try again after a while, maybe tomorrow - it should validate.

Score is 1165, not 1439.

Here's mine. Got a lot faster runs yesterday (maybe in line with what chew* posted, although at much higher mem speed), but didn't finish due to some low voltages I was experimenting with and I had no software installed to change them runtime in OS. Was easily 2-3 seconds faster than this (1st loop - low 23s, 2nd - mid 43s, 3rd 1m 03s, etc). Will keep trying when I have time, but still can't figure out all the odd things.

Got it down to 8.17.xxx with mem at 3600 12-12-12 without wazza, BUT... Simple reboot, same settings, nothing changed and boom - 10 seconds slower. And that is much more frequent than sub 8.20. Maybe something internal is not triggered every time (or almost never) or it is some other sort of bug, still can't figure it out. Will upload the screenshot in the evening.

Ah, ok, pci-e sata card makes sense, didn't think about that.

Ok, but have I missed something or there are Zen drivers for XP? Last time I checked it was not supported and I've tried myself, but could not install it, nor run an already installed OS from another platform. Otherwise I agree about the XP for 32M, the source iso matters as well.

XP with Ryzen?

As far as I know the only difference is the heatpipe and the different heatsinks on the VRMs and NB. PS: Judging from pictures, M2RS does not have QCODE display, also has different inductors, maybe something else. Edit: Apparently, the southbridge is SB600 vs SB750, didn't know that.

The thing is I don't want to buy another board just for Pi . Will flashback 1001 or 1002 to compare with latest beta, however I can probably compensate with better timings on current bios vs the fixed timings on old ones if the newest bios is slower. Fact is I can't get even 8:20.xxx which puts me well behind scores you have. Best I have is 8:23 or something like that, don't remember. Even 3600 tight timings can't get me down to your scores. Looking forward to your LN2 run.

Newest. I will flashback 1001 or 1002 to compare, but I was slow with 1002 too before .

Yeah, I know you both have better scores and I'm slower even than what have been posted until now. Maybe there's something significant I'm missing, but I will keep trying. 3600 tight is working here, but even at that speed I'm slow. Guess I can push it even further, but no point in this until I figure out the baseline at 3200. I know about ODT, it should be "just right" to work optimally. I'm talking about scores in the 8:30 ballpark with windows "untweaked", just bios settings. Every time I try to tweak something in Win it makes things even worse. Reverting the tweak does not get the score to the previous level. So I'm currently scratching my head... Didn't count how many times I've reinstalled OS.

Still struggling with Win7. Same bios settings (slacker timings close to auto atm, except primaries and tWCL). Installing same stripped windows 7, fresh boot, no tweaks, everything should be 1:1 and I get 3 seconds difference with the different installations. Can't figure out why. And it was consistent, not just some random run. Latest beta bios has drive strengths, but haven't played with them yet. Trains the memory first try though.

Got back to Ryzen, but I'm still 10sec behind. Currently only trying 4GHz, 100bclk and 3200 divider for good measure.

Don't believe that's possible with water cooling and current Zen revision. As Alex said, it should be some very powerful chiller (SS territory).

Why don't you fix the parser on hwbot to accept both http and https. Some people are using https-everywhere extension or similar Plus the validation message is not really helpful. It's like saying "there's an error with the value in this field" while you're trying to register for some service/site, without providing any details Sounds fun, eh? If I, as a developer, did similar thing with the validation for any of the products I'm working on, a QA would assign me a bug.

I will try, but I'm testing some Hynix M-die (2x16 and 2x8) right now. Need to get this done, then will be back to B-Die for benches and 32M.

So I thought it might be good to add my tests with the same model on Ryzen. Test system was 1800X on air, running on Asus Crosshair VI Hero with bios 0082. First I started with XMP. Worked without issues and I was able to lower the voltage down to 1.325V. Next, I simulated a "standard" 3600C16 rated kit, which also worked flawless. Last thing I tried was tightening the timings to XMP values on the same 3600MHz. Obviously a bump in voltage was required, but I still consider this on the safe side for 24/7 operation. This kit is weaker than my best B-Die, but still pretty decent. More than 3600MHz on Ryzen are not really viable for 24/7 at the moment, even this is pushing it, because you need rather high bclk to achieve such speeds and might have problems with various devices attached to the PCI-E lanes. I've also tried C12 and C11 - all worked with voltage increase. Haven't checked them on Apex yet and don't know voltage tolerance and max Pi32M with wazza. Overall it's a good memory, however if you own other good B-Die kit, there's no point changing it. You can also buy a higher bin B-die, they will still work at same timings on Ryzen. Another thing is my IMC seems to be above average, so you might not be able to get same results at 3600, but 3200 should be no problem on 100MHz bclk with 3200 ratio or with higher bclk and lower ratio.

I take it.

I could not get higher multipliers with my 1GHz T-Bird when I tried last time. My goldfinger is a different brand. Perhaps the limitation comes from the motherboards.

You have it in your thread: Should do the trick.

That's 32M

Common, even at LLC5 it is going slightly above what set in bios. It's not like going to 1.8V when 1.4V is set. I don't see what danger you're talking about. Also, what voltage limit on each LLC? You can measure it under socket for actual voltage.