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Well, that's the AMD "optimization", I guess Most important is the chip - B-die. Both kits I have (old 3600C17 and 3733C17) work without a problem on Ryzen. I even tested for stability 4x8GB at 3200 14-14-14-34 1T (trying to mimic that G.Skill screenshot from some time ago) at 1.35V. Also managed 3800+ at C12 bench "stable". But I guess it is good for people who just plug and play. It will offer a little better performance compared to 2133 JEDEC. And, this FlareX doesn't seem too bad, considering many recent high bins fail on the same test. It could be much worse, plus voltage tolerance is higher than expected.

0082 is the best so far for me. Mem could not go so high before. Also don't see the Win10 bugs, everything seems fine in terms of scores.

Setting maxmem is the way all top guys use to bench at these insane frequencies under x64 OS.

Use the tool "EZ Installer" provided on Asus page: https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/ROG-MAXIMUS-IX-APEX/HelpDesk_Download/

Yes, I've noticed mega now wants to make account and pay when the quota is exceeded or wait several hours until the download is unblocked again. This SP1 image is rather old though and does not include updates, but I didn't want to get a custom image as a base, you never know what is inside, plus I guess it is illegal. That's why I've opted for the official MSDN SP1 image, no cracks, hacks, activation, etc. It would be better to provide a simple guide how to integrate drivers, although there are tools for this already - e.g. on Asus site. Asrock might have one as well. But I will find some time to write a guide for NTLite, because you might want to integrate some extra stuff. This image was just to get things going for people who have no clue and/or time what is required and haven't researched on the topic.

This is the default multi of that chip. Nothing unlocked.

Thanks, elmor. 3600 is now super easy.

Collection of bioses: Index of /AMD_k7 There you have the Mantarays, but I really only use my own bioses. I was using one of the latest Merlin's bioses (one of TaiPan ones) before that, never really liked the Mantarays XT. My old link to ClassicPlatforms' bios archive is not working anymore, not sure if not hidden already. Perhaps Scotty could help.

I've shared it long time ago, but here it is again: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0ByfNThxT1gbTaTFYTUg1a3p6VFk?usp=sharing 1T rev.2 and 2T rev.1. As a bonus, bioses for AN7 too: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0ByfNThxT1gbTVFR5R3RrVXNRRFE?usp=sharing

4x8GB TridentZ at 3200C14 pretty stable. One set is 3733C17, other one is 3600C17. Can't go over 3300, maybe the limit of my IMC or hitting the mem hole. 3200 divider doesn't POST at CAS lower than 18 (or 17 set in bios, which is rounded to next even number). 2666 divider is fine with lower CAS, despite tighter subtimings. Haven't tried lower VDIMM, might run just fine. Memtest 100% Blend custom, just 30min, don't want to torture this cpu a lot, since I have only one and plan to bench it on LN2 Aida

Have you tried the "portable" version from the beginning and DMI disabled + XOC enabled? I never install it, always use the one from provided zip. PS: I see you got 1.78.1 working, should be fine to use. 1.78.3 really is strange even on AM2 cpu/boards on XP, just look at the div VII submissions.

The truth is almost noone cares about Catzilla. The only thing that might be of an interest to someone is the global points. If there were no global points or competitions requiring that buggy bench, noone would run it. I regret buying a license... It's a "loading time" bench, not 3D.

Can we all test at 4GHz or 5GHz, please. There's more to be optimized. I've tried Win7 x86, but it appears to be slower for me, but might try a diff version later. Just for a start

It was refreshing to participate in a competition again after such a long time due to various reasons. Still searching for that golden AM2 Windsor F3. My 6000+ needs -45 for this CPU speed, which means low HTRef and RAM frequency and that hurts 32M. Got to work on that HD3870 late night yesterday, mod it, then fight with water leaking out of the CPU block, numerous driver re-installs, etc. But that card is really good and saved my @ss. Tight competition, just 0.3pts between #1 and #2 place . Good scores all around.

Thanks, shared at a local forum, too.

Not going to buy anything this time, although temptation is strong Have 100% positive experience dealing with Michael, all pretested mems I've purchased from him do at least what is advertised, but most of the time even more.

Clever block mount!

Mine does 1.475V 1GHz+ on stock cooling.

At -10 Russians are celebrating the warm weather. At -20 they put their shirt on. At -30 they even put a sweater.

So should I upload the backup? I'm still benching though.

Nice one

Thanks. Don't worry though, your first place is kind of guaranteed. I don't have LN2 and your aqua run is too much for my poor CPU.

Then maybe something else is "failing". I see a lot of variance between different chips. Not that I've tested many, but over the net. If it is some SATA device, then it would just fail and not be recognized rather than preventing the board to POST, am I right?

Let me guess - you're benching 2D with high-end current-gen VGA. Try another VGA that can handle increased PCI-e clocks.

My experience as a buyer is good overall, but I haven't sold anything on ebay. Tried once, the item didn't sell and I gave up. I've had about 3 cases on ebay: - One was for a VGA that never arrived, there was no real picture of it, no shipping confirmation, tracking or any response from the seller after the transaction. Ebay judget in my favor and it was the right thing. - Second one was a nice DFI LanParty Ultra-B, full retail packaging, etc. The price was high, but this is kind of a collector's item. Seller said board is like new, works fine. Not sure if he neglected working condition or actually tried to sell me a non-working board. It took him a looot of time to ship it after sending many messages. He was always saying "tomorrow". I had to cancel the deal after seeing this, but I wanted that board. He eventually shipped it and it arrived, but was not working - all capacitors were K.O. Fortunately after replacing them the board worked. I'm usually willing to cooperate, but this time opened a case and won. He was pissed. - Third time was a cheap s.939 CPU that got lost somehow during shipping, but I could see the seller is a honest guy, not trying to fool me. He issued a full refund, which I didn't request, so I sent him some money for compensation, because it was not his fault, nor mine. We both shared the loss this way. Generally I try to resolve issues directly with the buyer. However your experience is awful and after reading this I would never try to sell something on ebay again.