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I can't go so low on the mems with my "pot", so I'm safe . I know that mem clock can't be compared across platforms, but expect them to run 2600+ on slack timings. Getting the Veloce tonight, so I will check again. Can do 2600 easy. On this platform 1200 7-10-7 was impossible on air, had to set 8-10-8/8-11-8. As you can see from my sub I haven't pushed the cpu hard yet. I was mainly playing with mem and gpu, but had a benching wall at 1290MHz for the memory no matter which divider I was using. Anyway, it was just the first test..I'm more than 1 week behind you guys, due to the bios update failure. Edit: Just tested with 2x8 Geil Veloce 2400C11 and I can load Windows at 2600, but it's unstable just like with PSC, no way I can run 3d. 2570 XMP is fine for full 3dmark run, while 2600 even with a lot slacker timings just barely loads windows. Pretty sure it's the IMC. Edit2: Absolutely the same with Adata 1600G (BFR).

All points are valid with some exceptions for me - I don't have anything different than BBSE/PSC/Hyper. I've used PSC. I have Adata 1600 BFR that are capable of high frequency, but they do not boot at all. Not stable with PSC/BBSE over 2600 at any timings. About 2550 was max on air and I've tried 3 kits good for 2600+ very tight subs (on intel though). Actually I have Geil Evo Veloce 2400 from one of the competitions, but I've borrowed them to a friend for some test. Have to get them back. - Loading OS at full pot was never a problem with my APU/MEM/Board. Also benched several hours with mem at -70, but I started with higher temp and there was no difference. - High CPU is not needed, unless you're fighting for the last 20-30 points Some observations from me: - about 1.74V VDIMM was max for me. Anything higher and it was getting worse, no matter the temperature of the APU/memory. I settled with 1.7V. - IGPU didn't like more than ~1.5V. Maybe that saved me from killing it Unfortunately I don't have another APU to compare, however I have no choice but get another one this week.

No, I don't have problem with bclk. Running in IDE mode with my SSD I've tested up to 130. Lower or higher divider (than 1169) for the IGPU results in lower fps when I try to match e.g. 1400MHz with the 1169 option. However with 1169 option and 3:32 mem divider max benchable is 1415Mhz for the GPU, because max stable mem frequency for this APU is 1290. Although I can load windows at say 1330 it is not benchable - crashes on desktop or reboots when I try to run 3dmark. Nothing helps - voltage, timings... I used ~1.7V (more was not needed) for the RAM, because it is the IMC failing. I gained a little on LN2, but not as much as I hoped. I see top guys run the same multi, so I guess it's a common thing and I need a chip with better IMC. On a side note - the board is rock stable. Bios recovers very well from bad settings and had absolutely no problem during the first sesion. Great job Asrock and Nick! Also as Nick said - get a proper cooling for the pwm. Even after several hours at -190 for the cpu and -70 on the memory, the pwm heatsink was still warm and I had a fan placed over it. BTW, thanks for the bios tip, that saved my @ss. I gues that block at the beginning is just a code for the bios flashing program. Flashed fine with Flashrom on Asus M4A89GTD.

I have problems at 15001430+ GPU even with the tool from Stilt. FPS drops no matter what. Running Catalyst 13.9 on Win 7 x64. PS: I get normal scores only at "1169" multi, but my APU's IMC is bad, so I'm limited to 120 bclk

I have tried that in Sunday without success. Board stops at F2 and there's some activity on the USB drive (formatted in FAT32 and the only file in the root directory is the bios). After 1-2 minutes it moves to 7C and usb activity led stops, but the board does not boot.

Russians are unbeatable in these kind of benchmarks, but Bulgarians are not bad either

Nice score anyway! I expect a lot of dead/damaged APUs in this competition.

Nothing changed with -f. Took a look at the full commands list, but I don't think anything else can help.

Error: Image size (8392704 B) doesn't match the flash chip's size (8388608 B). That with the second command, the first one errors out with "Programmer initialization failed" and I get on both Calibrating delay loop... OK Bad command or file name (x4 times) I've tried with 3 bios versions and also tried with different file extensions - the original ones, bin and rom. The board I'm trying on is Asus M4A89GTD. Will try on Asrock Z77 OCF in a moment, 'cause I don't have a newer AMD moard than this (except Crosshair IV Formula which is similar to the M4).

Yes, I have a very bad luck with APUs. Guess I just have to sit back and watch. Billy, where? I can only see one bios chip on the board. PS: I have Extreme6, not 6+. Extreme6+ is not available in Bulgaria yet, so I had no other choice but get the older model.

Anyone know if there's a way to revive Asrock A85 Extreme6 after a bad bios flash? Not talking about a programmer device, because I can't find one in the weekend. Got the board yesterday and tried to flash the LN2 bios today. Loaded setup defaults, reset and entered instant flash. It's the first time I try to flash a new bios on this board. The process stuck at ~30%. Waited 10-15 minutes and it didn't move, everything appeared frozen. Had no other choice but restart and it's now dead. I only managed to install Windows PS: If it matters - I've used the black usb2.0 ports near the clrCMOS button.

Don't worry, staff will remove the wrong submissions. I think the problem comes from the feature which offers you to participate in the running competitions if your entry matches the rules. They just agree on the prompt.

Seems someone needs to fix the limitations

I never went above 1.5V for NB, but it still died and afterwards the board killed 5800K from the last country cup, because I was stupid enough to try it.

Congrats! You're the champion. Had a lot of problems, otherwise could eventually beat you at AM3 32M, but only there...

I have the same problem with cpu-nb. I can run 1M at 4GHz, but 32M not possible even at 3.4... It just shuts down after initial loop.

Efficiency without high cpu clocks won't get me far. This is my only result with the chip on LN2.

Both seem about right. Thanks for the help and good luck in the competition! You have the tools and the knowledge

1.5Ω for 6800K and 0.7Ω for 5800K I didn't use the slow mode. I was booting at 1.55V for the cpu and 1.45V for the NB, then gradually increase cpu voltage in ET. It was the second session, benched several hours on the first one and about 2 hours for the second. It died at 1.55V when I tried to increase bclk from 117 to 118 in ET (no voltage change in settings, just the bclk). Then tried to power on the board, but it seemed to have a short, because psu protection was kicking in. Stopped benching and dried everything carefully checking the board, no visual burn on the mosfets. Then tried it with both cpus and guess that's what killed the 5800, stupid me The old board turned off immediately with 8-pin cpu power connector attached, the new one keeps running. Hopefully the new board is still alive, otherwise I will have a hard time with RMA'ing everything if it gets accepted at all. Do a working board show something on the debug display when powered on without a cpu?

Nice score for the clocks Good job!

Can I ask somebody with UP4 check what post code is displayed on the debug led when no cpu installed? Something failed last week and I thought it's the board, because then I tried with 5800K and it was switching off immediately (I think the PSU protection kicks off). So I bought another UP4, but when I start the board only 2 segments on the debug display flash for a blink of an eye and it turns off (the led). Board stays on, but does not post. It's the same with both cpus and without a cpu installed. I though if both cpus are dead it should display 00, no? It would be pity if the faulty board killed the other cpu too when I tried it I'm scared to try the dead board again, so I will just throw it, don't want to risk the PSU too.

Thanks to websmile. I'm sure they can go higher on these timings, but the cpu has a bad IMC. Heck I'm not even pumping too much voltage through them. My "pot" brings them down to -100 (measured on the bottom of the ramsink) veeery slow.

310 euro, which is approximately $415 with an average salary for the country of 370 euro.

It happens all the time for me. Have to click on the recalculate link in the sidebar.

I'll try higher with gelid paste if I manage to get LN2 next week.