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ROUND 5 - Socket 754 (2003)
(No adapters allowed)
That part made me really really interested in what kind of adapter Ive missed out on so far?
Mainly , to avoid Asrock "alchemies"
with this special card
ASRock > Products > am2cpu board
and also this one
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Hi everybody
Hwbot forum is back ... and so are we
Final plan , after last minute changes for this season OSiBS competition.
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ROUND 1 - Socket 7 (1997)
Mixed with Intel & AMD cpu's
(All cpu's must be 0.35 micron fabrication).
Desktop cpu's only.
Intel P5 architecture (Pentium MMX series)
AMD K6 architecture (Desktop K6 series)
Stage-1
CPU-Z Validation - Max CPU speed
Stage-2
SuperPI 1M
Stage-3
CPU-Z Validation - Percentage OC %
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ROUND 2 - Socket 370 (1998)
(Mendocino cores only)
(Non Intel chipset motherboards)
(No server hardware allowed-only desktop products)
Stage-1
CPU-Z Validation - Max CPU speed
Stage-2
SuperPI 1M
Stage-3
Wprime 32M
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ROUND 3 - Slot A (1999)
(Argon & Pluto core only)
Stage-1
CPU-Z Reference Clock
Stage-2
SuperPI 1M
Stage-3
3DMark 2001 - GeForce 256
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ROUND 4 - Socket 423 (2000)
(No adapters allowed)
Stage-1
SuperPI 1M
Stage-2
Wprime 32M
Stage-3
Aida64 Memory Read
Stage-4
3DMark 2001 - GeForce3 series
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ROUND 5 - Socket 754 (2003)
(No adapters allowed)
Stage-1
SuperPI 1M
Stage-2
HWBOT X265 1080P
Stage-3
3DMark2003 - Nvidia series (Up to 6xxx series - single vga - single gpu only)
Stage-4
FM Cloudgate - ATI AGP series
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Great video , i liked it !!!
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Think it looks pretty good but one thing Id love to see changed would be to change socket 423 to 478 Willamette as we have used 423 a few times last years but never seen 478 Willamette in a competition
We had socket 478 last year , that's why i chose socket 423 for this competition (socket 423 has the same Willamette core cpu's ... to be exact , it has only Willamette cores).
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On that note: are dual socket 370 boards allowed for r2/s3 ? There are plenty availible with none- Intel chipsets...
As long as the general rule , about server products in competitions applies.
I want to follow hwbot guidance on this
No server hardware at all, we always clearly says desktop hardware only unless stated otherwise. ... -
Just one question - would we be allowed to use slockets to run Socket 370 chips on Slot 1 non-Intel boards?
I hope so.
My initial thought was to make an effort for pure stages.
No adapters in any stage (if possible).
So my proposal is for socket 370 boards and cpu's only.
No Slot-1 , please.
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As I mentioned in my PM, this is a very good concept. But if you want to avoid someone using a not too old school 980ti or similar card, you should limit the round 5 stage 3 to agp or make an upper card limit if pci-x is allowed
My bad , here.
I had a limitation for this stage , that was lost in transfer from my notes.
It's up to Nvidia 7xxx series
Both AGP and PCI-E allowed.
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Hi everybody
Here follows the final plan , for this season OSiBS competition.
Feel free to comment here or send me a pm , with your thoughts , or even things i might have overlooked.
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ROUND 1 - Socket 7 (1997)
Mixed with Intel & AMD cpu's
(All cpu's must be 0.35 micron fabrication).
Desktop cpu's only.
Intel P5 architecture (Pentium MMX series)
AMD K6 architecture (Desktop K6 series)
Stage-1
CPU-Z Validation - Max CPU speed
Stage-2
SuperPI 1M
Stage-3
CPU-Z Validation - Percentage OC %
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ROUND 2 - Socket 370 (1998)
(Mendocino cores only)
(Non Intel chipset motherboards)
Stage-1
CPU-Z Validation - Max CPU speed
Stage-2
SuperPI 1M
Stage-3
Wprime 32M
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ROUND 3 - Slot A (1999)
(Argon & Pluto core only)
Stage-1
CPU-Z Reference Clock
Stage-2
SuperPI 1M
Stage-3
3DMark 2001 - GeForce 256
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ROUND 4 - Socket 423 (2000)
(No adapters allowed)
Stage-1
SuperPI 1M
Stage-2
Wprime 32M
Stage-3
Aida64 Memory Read
Stage-4
3DMark 2001 - GeForce3 series
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ROUND 5 - Socket 754 (2003)
(No adapters allowed)
Stage-1
SuperPI 1M
Stage-2
HWBOT X265 1080P
Stage-3
3DMark2003 - Nvidia series (Up to 7xxx series - single vga only)
Stage-4
FM Cloudgate - ATI AGP series
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New ideas and proposals , are still welcome !!!
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Rule update for mandatory version of this benchmark ?
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TASOS wants , from aaaall of you out there , (oldtimers or not) ... to make proposals.
Propose , propose , propose
I want to have a variety of proposals , to pick from
Do your best
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Socket 462
Must be Duron
GF256
3D01
Pifast
Aquamark3
It occurs to me - although I'd personally love a chance to bench Socket 4, it may be more difficult to acquire than the others. So I might propose this as a potential replacement round:Round 2b: Slot 1
Stage 1: PII "Celeron" PiFast (single-slot only)
Stage 2: PII wPrime 32M full-out (multi-slot OK)
Stage 3: 3DMark 2000 w/ PII & GeForce 256
I know that (GF 256) is a unique piece of hardware for old school fanatics , but it's kind of rare and expensive nowadays.
I personally dont have a problem to include it into the competition.
But it would be better if we find more supporters , to approve this vga for any stage or round.
I hope more members will declare interest.
If not , should we consider a cheap alternative of geforce2 MX series ?
We'll see
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Tasos now manages the proposals and you can re-post your ideas when you checked them again how much sense they make and how doable this all is. As he wrote, please do not go for expensive or unobtainable unicorn hardware and not stuff that is too new, have fun and I hope we can accelerate things a bit. Plan is to lauch the comp early january, so it would be good if we can sort this out until early novemberThere have already been some pretty good proposals in this thread, so is there a certain framework you are working with for each round, TASOS? Or do you want round proposals from scratch?
Yes
Please consider the criteria written by me above and also follow the general idea from websmile.
Thanks
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Hi "old-schoolers"
We need more proposals and ideas for this contest.
Keep them coming.
Lets try to keep them :
Old school
Fair and simple
Common hardware
Affordable in 2nd hand market
Fun and interesting
Lets do our best.
I know that in the end , not all users will be satisfied and happy (that's almost impossible in such cases).
But lets try to keep the majority happy.
Aquamark3 is BAD aidea, ....For AMD lowers and K6 core interesting to take K6 without prefix - Silmly first K6 - 166-300 mhz "Little Foot (model 7) "
Max
Please propose a complete round , considering the criteria mentioned above
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Hi "old-schoolers"
We need more proposals and ideas for this contest.
Keep them coming.
Lets try to keep them :
Old school
Fair and simple
Common hardware
Affordable in 2nd hand market
Fun and interesting
Lets do our best.
I know that in the end , not all users will be satisfied and happy (that's almost impossible in such cases).
But lets try to keep the majority happy.
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By the way, the dependence on the cpu speed can be minimized by simply limiting its frequency (as it is done in other competitions) - for example 500 MHz, and compete in overclocking the video card and not the system as a whole.
We do not live in a perfect world.
Think about it.
People get weak ... and tempted.
You can never verify a cpu bench speed (by distance).
Hwbot moderators would not want to go through this.
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But why? SDRAM wasn't too popular on s423. I think I have 2 or 3 DDR boards but none based on i845 SDRAM.
My thoughts:
3DMark 2001 SE socket 370. Or maybe even socket 370/socket A (Athlon non XP, i.e. before Palomino). Nice overall system performance.
We have done stages with lesser popularity in the past.
Not to mention strange or awkward ...
I love 2k1 , but i prefer 3D stages that do not depend on cpu speed or have less cpu impact.
A member with good tweaking skills and a good modded vga , will never win a 2k1 stage , if his cpu is bad.
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Bravo George !!!
I like those Rams !!!
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You mean RDRAM right? Because I'm pretty sure that there weren't any SDRAM Boards for that socket
Just got back.
I was away for work this week.
I saw Mr Paco , already answered your question
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I promised my idea for the stages last weekend but real life hits hard sometime.. Anyways here it is somewhat inspired from @TASOS but with my view on how to limit it based on CPU family instead of using bunnyextractionty motherboards so we can still get good scores out of the runs, but on somewhat forgotten hardware. It’s also limited to 3 stages per round if it collides with other competitions.
This is hardware I’ve never seen used in a competition so should be an even race for everyone.
Pentium II + Riva TNT
superpi 1M
wprime 32M
3dmark01
Socket A Duron (spitfire) + geforce2 MX
HWBOT Prime
Cinebench 2003
Aquamark
Pentium 4 (Willamette) + Radeon 8500
superpi 1M
GPUPI for CPU - 100M
3dmark03
Socket 604
SuperPi - 32M
wPrime - 1024m
GPUPI for CPU - 100M
Fastest AGP (on single cpu socket only) (I liked this one)
a) on Intel cpu systems
Stage 1 = 3DMark03
Stage 2 = 3DMark Cloud Gate
b) on AMD cpu systems
Stage 3 = 3DMark03
Stage 4 = 3DMark Cloud Gate
Im absolutly open for discussing the choise of what benchmarks to use as this is just a crude draft but this is my suggestion on hardware to use. Maybe change 604 to something more accessible but I think it looks like a fun socket that Ive always wanted to take a bite of.
I chose only one (double stage) with 3D , to reduce the total cost for people that dont have the hardware.
Assuming that most of us would use the same VGA for both stages.
No need for special VGA's , on all other stages.
... and i really like to see the following (2) stages in action.
Tualatin socket 370 (non Intel chipset)
Reference clock
Memory clock
Aida64 memory read
superpi 1M
wprime 32M
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Socket 939 (non Nforce chipset)
Reference clock
Memory clock
Aida64 memory read
superpi 1M
3DMark11 Physics
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I see Intel 4-core , is still the way to go
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You can try clearing the web browser cache and improving the network environment
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Do i have to press F5 for this , my friend ?
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Will i see much improvement ?
Sorry mate
Please dont reply on this.
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Things are getting worse ...
People-members are not happy ...
Staff-members are struggling ...
Is there any hope ???
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The external pll clocking , is also a Japanese trademark !!!
(you can see it on the 1st photo).
Thanks once again , for all these memories , Casanova
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OSiBS season 4 design thread
in HWBOT Competitions
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The general idea , is to have pure stages.
We dont want ... and we dont need any kind of adapters
All we want is free time and a good mood ... to have fun !!!
No need to hunt lost unicorns.
Now
To be specific regarding your question.
I dont know of any kind of adapters from Slot-A to something else.
But if there is ... it's forbidden