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I would like to ask , how the moderating team of hwbot , handle cpu-z validations , where clearly the score is somehow bugged.
Correct core speed
Wrong core speed
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On 3/24/2018 at 10:46 PM, richba5tard said:
199600 / 870000 done
What's the status today ?
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On 3/21/2018 at 6:11 PM, Strunkenbold said:
I talked with Tasos and he was very kind. Basically he accepted the current approach. Except someone has objections, the current set of rules are considered final.
I don't see problems for dual socket motherboard users participating with a single CPU.
Also slot adapters can be used, I don't think it means an advantage to anyone.
2 hours ago, GRIFF said:And dual cpu boards with single cpu?
Allowed.
Let me know , if you (or anybody else) have any other requests.
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In favor of bigger participation , i decided to remove the difficulty factor from this round.
Which was indeed , trying to run the (Intel unlocked) SMP feature of Celeron PPGA's ... Since it requires above average modding skills , on both hardware and bios level .
When i saw old members , experienced members , getting the wrong dual boards or assuming they had the right dual boards ...
I realized that the "art" of running dual ppga celerons was a bit forgotten.
Buried deep into hardware history.
Sad , but a reality.
So
Easy , plain simple stage , for everybody.
No dual celerons
And slot-1 adapter allowed
Have fun !!!
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34 minutes ago, TAGG said:
As far as i can remember we had a dual S462 stage last year, so there allways was some server(ish) hardware involved
If dualboards are allowed thet would mean that anyone who want's to have a chance in the wprime stage needs one... If that is the case we have to agree on using them as soon as possible, otherwise there will be complaints from people who spent money on such a board and are not allowed to use it...
Yes you are correct.
http://oc-esports.io/#!/round/osibs_s3r4/3380/cinebench_2003
All teams started with single cpu , until OnisA from XtremeOverdrive OC team Italy , posted a score with dual cpu's
After that , the teams adjusted their entries.
17 minutes ago, Mr.Scott said:Should have left it single processor only as the comp has already started.
I'm rather irritated now. 2 rounds in and problems with both of them.
Please bullet proof the rest of the rounds right now before this happens again.
Scott
I havent changed the specs of this round.
There was no mention about cpu count , from the start.
15 minutes ago, GRIFF said:Im agree with you. Single cpu board for this stage.
You could have written your opinion in the preparation thread earlier.
Why now ?
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32 minutes ago, havli said:
Hmm, so far everything with more than one socket and ... anything caled Xeon / Opteron / Quadro / Firepro was considered "server". This doesn't apply here?
I agree with you , on the second part of your phrase.
On the first part , no.
Because since the Abit BP6 era , the pc industry created a special product category for home users.
Dual socket boards where not server-workstation only (not anymore).
Boards like BP6 , VP6 , A7M266-D .... up to later models such as EVGA SR-2 , were not server products.
They were dual cpu boards for home users.
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5 hours ago, Gumanoid said:
not all dual-processor boards with VIA chip are server (ECS D6VAA, Abit VP6) and Celeron not a server processor. If someone can start system with dual Mendocino I do not see any problems.
If you are lucky to have a dual cpu board (like Abit VP6) which can SMP Mendocino ... you can use it.
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6 minutes ago, GRIFF said:
And:
-SDRAM limitation
- single cpu board
You can use any board , with VIA , SIS , Ali chipset and SDRAM.
In case you have a hybrid board with both SDRAM and DDR , you can use it with SDRAM only.
I hope it's clear enough.
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1 hour ago, GRIFF said:
Dual cpu board is the server board....ok
Via Apollo Pro266 is not server chipset and single cpu boards must be allowed for me.
I proposed to make a list of motherboards or chipsets in particular to avoid problems in the future.
Please lets stay as close as possible to the Mendocino era !!!
Meaning , lets stick to SDRAM only.
19 minutes ago, Strunkenbold said:Im not sure Ive got it right, since its the first time I set up a contest but let me know if something need to change.
Edit: You just want s370?
Gregor
Please adjust the competition page , with the available chipset options for VIA , SIS and Ali
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1 hour ago, Gumanoid said:
Can we use slot 1 boards with socket 370 CPU + adapter?
The general idea for this OSIBS , is pure stages , no adapters.
https://community.hwbot.org/topic/171301-osibs-season-4-design-thread/?page=4
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13 hours ago, GRIFF said:
I propose to make a list of unauthorized motherboards here. I think that those two processors are server / industrial board.
Please follow the general rule guideline , which is
(Mendocino cores only)
(Non Intel chipset motherboards)
(No server hardware allowed-only desktop products) <= General rule for all hwbot competitions , and also specifically for osibs to avoid ServerWorks chipset boards
What's left ?
Plenty of boards with VIA Apollo Pro133A
I hope i helped you.
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For this round , the percentage % stage , went wrong , cause of the cpu-z bug , especially on non-Ali chipset boards.
The good thing , is that Strunkenbold's move , contacting Franck Delattre about it , will provide us a better cpu-z for future use.
I thank them both (Gregor and Frank).
As a sidenote , just to laugh a little ... imagine all of us to have picked an other proposal for OSIBS (use of older 486 systems)
Personally i feel sad about making a bad choice for this stage ... my goal was to have fun and not cause trouble to participants and moderating team also.
Although i dont think anyone had the intention to cheat in this round.
I would have expected more of a cpu variety (regarding AMD K6's) in this round , but it seems that most of us played safe with Intel MMX , instead of experimenting with the AMD's.
Perhaps this round needed some more time ... cause of the general situation of Hwbot , the past weeks.
Anyway ...
I am also sad , because my GA-5AX went bad during testing ... and now i have to try and fix it (if it's possible) or replace it (even harder).
My other board , a FIC , Via chipset , was constantly reporting 1X multi only (whatever Intel MMX cpu i used) and i chose not to present any scores , cause they looked weird.
Congrats to all participants ... and see you all in next round !!!
Have fun !!!
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Get ready !!!
QuoteROUND 2 - Socket 370 (1998)
(Mendocino cores only)
(Non Intel chipset motherboards)
(No server hardware allowed-only desktop products)
Stage-1
CPU-Z Validation - Max CPU speed
Stage-2
SuperPI 1M
Stage-3
Wprime 32M
Wallpapers ?
9 hours ago, alexmaj467 said: -
14 hours ago, hyve said:
What rev' do you have ?
if you'll do it can you please share me some pictures of it ? i'll be grateful for that
i have the 5.2
10 hours ago, TAGG said:I have the 4.1 I'll share pictures and results of binning when I'm done
You are both willing to take a risk , on a board you cant easily replace ???
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4 hours ago, richba5tard said:
I haven't seen a problem yet but I can imagine this did not migrate well.
For example , look how the Japanese characters show up in the thread below
... and i can send you a pm , to see how the Greek characters of older pm's look like.
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Do other users have problem with text written in non-english language ?
I see old forum posts not appearing correctly and forum pm's also.
Encoding problem ?
System characters used ?
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Thanks for all your effort to make this thread complete.
It was a great move.
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On 2/15/2018 at 4:41 PM, websmile said:
On obvious technical bugs like these it might be best to post them at rev 7 thread or send a PM to richbastard
Already done that ... nothing so far
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On 2/17/2018 at 10:42 AM, Strunkenbold said:
Good that you asked. I accidentally allowed it too. Should be fixed now. Anyone still seeing something wrong?
No P54CS please.
On 2/17/2018 at 1:59 AM, Leeghoofd said:Please attach this wallpaper link to the competition page.
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11 hours ago, richba5tard said:
Forum migration is done ...
1) We need a button on the top bar , that will link to hwbot.org
2) Where is the Team Captain section ?
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My opinion on verification for this round.
Photo of the system (motherboard used).
Close photo of the cpu used , with all markings visible.
Screenshot with wallpaper including all possible cpuid software (cpuz , aida , crystal cpuid or whatever).
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It's horrible. Make normal wallpaper and not those that are made in Word With a cassette tape recorder is much better
I'm with you on this one max !!!
I did propose for a live wallpaper for this OSIBS ... but they didnt listen.
Maybe if we can gather some votes , we can still make it happen.
Oh yeahhhh
This is it
https://www.youtube.com/embed/0g7KawdsVSQ
ok , ok , i'm joking
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.... Some problems at the start, why did not anyone check everything in advance?
The validation "problem" is my fault.
You can blame me.
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I like the idea of Photo verification.
Me too
I believe that it should be obligatory
Anybody tried Aida ?
-> Validated score still wrong? Let us know here
in Submission & member moderation
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I've done that , a while ago
http://hwbot.org/submission/3608861_hyperhorn_cpu_frequency_pentium_g4560_3606.82_mhz