chispy

Ok lets hear what massman and richbastard have to say about PCMark05 , can you guys please stop by and update us on whats going to happen and what actions are going to be taken on this matter ?

well done , congratz.

James i am and always will be chispy , who the hell are you to question my fair and sincere rightfully questions huh... lol , anyhow his score was remove due to cheating by the mods because I was 100% correct and spot the cheat on one subtest, can you see me now James ??? or you think from now on i will let this things keep on happening again and again , and do not get me started James i know a lot of thiings and i can open my big mouth anytime .. You calm down now OK do not get Nervous .

Thank you for clearing things up Sweet , muchas gracias .

PCM7 would be a nice alternative to PCMark05 , i agree with you Chris.

+100% agree with you on this one Gautam , why a cap if everything else goes , if everything else goes and the 220 cap its not lifted it will be very unfair , as you see how easy its to spot someone using a software Ram Disk. @ Massman if you are going to let everything goes , please think about the possibility of removing the 220 cap please .

Hola Mr.SteveRo , thats a software Ram-Disk for sure , hmm , food for thought ,@ Massman can we raise the XP Start Up Cap to lets say 400 ? i still think 220 its too low cap for people with good hardware in the HDD department.

^^ This , i agree 100% , Predator we tried this long time ago i think year 2008~2009 , furturemark was going to raise the 220 cap and in place it was going to be raised to 300 , but it never happenned as always we get very little support from FM , still 2011 and i still waiting from FM or hwbot to raise the XP Start Up to 300 . , hwbot can let loose if they let loose everything else allowed , why cap the benchmark , it would not be fair for some people the all goes but 220 xp because , thats where they can catch up and have advantages in the Hard drive test , then why penalized some and reward others ???

All goes but 220 start up limit and no ramdisks , thats it . Seriously Pieter you guys at hwbot need to rewrite the whole rules with an updated version to reflect the real changes in hardware and software over time , it needs to be done , James has some good ideas to keep this benchmark going , but can you tell me how acurately the mods will be able to moderate an old benchmark like this one with all this new hardware and software available ? If the answer is , i dont know then the moderation of this benchmark will be useless. If a benchmark can not produce reliable results anymore it should be removed as richba5tard said it before. Is it PCMark05 a hardware benchmark or a Software benchmark ? Is there a posibility to replace PCMark05 with a new benchmark ? Keep the opinions coming guys , lets air this out once and for all.

DejaVu lol ... read here , year 2009 , same thing all over again and again... http://hwbot.org/forum/showthread.php?t=2661 richba5tard said on that PCMark05 2009 tread Post # 11 """I agree with SF3D. As soon as a benchmark can not produce reliable results anymore due to new technology, it's obsolete... """

Bump for testing purposes. Here we go again PCMark05 should it have been can at this time , year 2009.

Bump for an example.

Bump for example to prove a point.

clear example of this whole mess wich is PCMark05 its the many many treads with open disscusions thru the years about the cheating or legit tweaks on this benchmark.

Please guys , continue this discussion here http://hwbot.org/forum/showthread.php?t=28773 and cast your vote , thank you.

If you guys take for example the top 20 scores , the sub-test on every score in the top 20 are all over the place , the disparity and abnormalies going on with those sub-scores are abysmal , massive difference , in everything from low cpu clocks with very high video encoding and web browsing test to HD test Virus Scan over 2000+ with only one or two I-Rams. I have seen it all in the top 20 scores , good ones , bad ones , some legit and some obviously cheated but there is no way to go trhu every single score and every single test and sub-test to make sure its 100% legit , some people lack the hardware and thru the means of the new so called software ***TWEAKS*** make up for it on some sub-test wich gives them the edge at the total score. But when you combine both , the right hardware and the so call new ***TWEAKS*** massive scores can be achieved no doubt , that it is the clue that the benchmark its no longer reliable and cannot be moderated correctly , we need to find a new reliable benchmark wich its more apropiate and suitable to replace this old dying , outdated , sabotaged , obsolete , raped PCMark05. I sincerely believe this benchmark has to be remove.

You do not understand at all the point that i was bringing with you as an example , seriously PCMark05 needs to be removed , nowadays its impossible to know when a person its cheating and when its not , and i have been playing PCMark05 since 2006 im no noobie at this , i know exactly whats going on with the so called new *** TWEAKS *** .

+100% agree with you here knut

Hahha , entiendo ahora , no worries i understand now. Same here my first language its spanish and i have to edit my post many times to write in english and get my point across

And how do i know you are saying the trhuth and not cheating ??? prove it.

kk , got it.

, hahaha... Well if that new *** Tweak *** using that software to accellarate the subtest web page rendering lts been used and also powertoy for high video encoding tests , whats the difference between that and using MFT Software and Software Ram Disk ??? They all do the same thing they all do accelarate PCMark05 , clearly against the Rules : Under current hwbot rules , cheats and tweaks here http://hwbot.org/article/general_rules and PCMark05 Rules here http://hwbot.org/news/881_application_9_rules/ So Define by current rules , using software to accellarate the tests its a cheat

This is what im talking about , http://hwbot.org/forum/showthread.php?t=28747

I still dont understand you Gluvocio , you DO know using software to accelerate web page rendering and video encoding its NOT ALLOWED http://hwbot.org/news/881_application_9_rules/ and here http://hwbot.org/article/general_rules clearly it is against the Rules and you know it , but still you keep on doing it and have already submited 2 cheated scores that got blocked by mods, i know you are trying hard to get a good score , just stop trying to cheat your way up , i know what are you doing , have some integrity and honor at least , your credibility as a bencher goes down everytime you post a score with the new so called *** Tweaks*** , Again do you understand the words honor and Integrity ??? If your last score http://hwbot.org/submission/2192633_gluvocio_pcmark_2005_core_i7_2600k_39196_marks gets approved then that means MFT Software has to be approved as well as Software Ram-Disks , they all are software that accellerate PCMark05 not different from the software that you use on your runs to accelarate the web page rendering test and video encoding

So , you use software that accelerate PCMark'05 (web page rendering) and think its OK to use it huh... hwbot rules said: ( NOT ALLOWED ) Using software, performing hardware modifications or by human interaction altering the perceived speed of the benchmark program, tricking it to believe it ran faster and thus producing a better result. And Any software or human interaction causing the benchmark to use different calculation algorithms as intended by the original software creator. E.g. replacing the codec or browser in PCMark2005.