Massman

Anyone has those coldslow bioses?

Splave and Sin, Sitting in a tree ...

Don't give it to Gamer to test out on a blue P67 board ..........

You really suspect them goofing this video with de-ionized water?

Oops, sorry Stasio. To clarify, that I in the previous post is me. I got an email with the request to remove the video due to nda. It doesnt matter if it is posted on other sites; i dont have admin rights there

Link?

Did the winners already get an email for the prizes?

Oh, okay. Doesn't make much sense to me, though. UP was marketed as evolution of UD; as "better" than UD. Returning seems like you give up on the better version . But I can see why sales would prefer to run with the established UD lineup. Easier to explain, right .

Maybe just a typo? Maybe gappo wanted to say he had a tray for Haswell, not of Haswell?

Back to UD? What happened to UP?

Yeah, so, read some guides. Think I will check out the M6E .

Should, yeah. You still have boards lying around to test?

First day at the new office

http://hwbot.org/news/9607_hwbot_integrates_intel_extreme_tuning_utility_xtu_%E2%80%93_opportunity_to_grow_the_oc_community Technical restrictions As you can read in the above paragraph, the biggest problem of developing a unified overclocking application which interacts with the bios code requires full support from mainboard vendors. The also goes for XTU. The software faces a couple of important hardware restrictions that could potentially limit the functionality. These are the different levels of XTU support: Run Benchmark and Stress Tools Report hardware information OverclockingOverclock CPU (realtime) Overclock GPU (realtime) Overclock memory (with rebooting) Adjust voltage settings for each of the components [*]Profile management and BIOS saving Save and import and profile of your own system Upload and download profiles from other systems 0. Supported platforms XTU offers overclocking support for platforms since Ivy Bridge. So, Z77 Z87 The software with HWBOT support has been launched together with Haswell (Z87), so that is where most of our focus will be in terms of debugging and trying to get support for it. We hope Z77 boards will get better support over time too, but our main focus is Z87 and future generations. 1. The benchmark and stress tools As long as your system is supported by XTU, these two will run perfectly fine. We have seen support on Lynnfield, but I'm not sure how far back XTU supports. The benchmark and stress tools do not rely on any system information to run, so if you can open XTU you should be able to run both. 2. Report hardware information Gathering the system information is a little more difficult than running the benchmark, but still very easy. It should work on all the officially supported platforms (Sandy Bridge and newer) and provide details on the following parts of the system: Processor Graphics card Operating System Memory BIOS Motherboard XTU Version This system information will be used to link hardware from XTU to our hardware database for XTU benchmark submissions as well as for submissions you use the XTU profile to detect hardware with. 3. Realtime overclocking This is where things get a little tricky. Even when we don't consider the difficulties of setting the correct voltages (more on that later) even something as simple as configuring a multiplier, whether it is for the CPU or the GPU, is a very complicated process. This is something I was not very aware of at the beginning of the development process, but became very apparent towards the end of it. In order to explain the difficulties vendors (eg: Gigabyte) and software developers (Intel, HWBOT) face for a unified solution, let me use a practical example of Haswell multiplier configuration. Bare with me, this information was provided to me by Intel developers and I am just trying to paraphrase Reading out the correct multiplier is not really the big problem - in fact it is quite simple with the right information. It is re-configuring that multiplier on a wide range of motherboard products which is so difficult. There are a couple dozen ways to limit the multiplier in OS and each of them are fully functional. Perhaps they are not all officially supported, but they work on specific motherboards. In practical terms, it seems that most of the Z87 motherboards will support the basic realtime overclocking without too much additional extra development work. The BCLK frequency, for example, has worked on every Z87 motherboard we have tested. Most of the boards seem to support overclocking via the Turbo Ratios (39x and higher) as well as basic voltage tuning via either offset or override voltages. Although we have set up a certification process for mainboard vendors to certify their motherboards for XTU, the list of supported boards is limited at launch. So for now, it is mostly trial and error. About the memory. Even though it was possible to tune memory timings on the fly on Ivy Bridge, for now Intel has locked the access to the memory timings. This means you can only tune the memory from BIOS. XTU offers a small subset of the main memory timings to be tuned from within the operating system, but not nearly enough for the crazy memory tweakers out there. For basic overclockers, there are plenty of settings available - as long as the mainboard bios has the hooks in place - but for the real memory tuners the bios will still be the place to look. 4. Profiles and HWBOT website This is without any doubt the most difficult part of the integration exercise. However, it is also by far the most interesting part of the cooperation with Intel as it allows profile and overclocking settings sharing via the HWBOT site. Why is it so difficult? Well, remember the previous segment. Not only do we now have to be able to read and write the information realtime to the MSR, the settings now have to be able to be compiled in a single secured datafile, be stored and viewable online, be re-compiled in another datafile and opened within the software application. Only to hope the settings will work on your system. If that was not complicated enough for you, these settings also have to be written to the BIOS and work with POST training and power cycles. Difficult, yes. This is the last and final step of the XTU integration and requires mainboard developers to place all the right hooks in their BIOS to safely save the settings to the BIOS. As long as you follow the BIOS Writer's Guide strictly, there will be no problem. But deviate a little from the code are you might be in trouble. We are working closely with vendors to get their boards ready for this and have set up a test lab for this purpose specifically. As for the frequency reporting. For the share profile section, we use a dump directly from the XTU application. For submissions with a benchmark score, a hwbot submission is automatically made. For this purpose we need better frequency reporting. We calculate the BCLK, CPU and Memory frequency directly from the XTU information. Here is how we do the calculation We will continue to improve the logic over time, so feel free to report any bug. 5. Known restrictions and issues See bug thread: http://forum.hwbot.org/showthread.php?t=76089

QUESTION INDEX Will using this software void my warranty? Will this work on my system? This software doesn’t work, it is broken! Is there a list of supported configurations? I downloaded a profile and it didn’t work, what now? Can I use this software without internet connection? I like this software so much, how can I donate? What does the score mean? I just flashed the BIOS and XTU does not read out the values anymore! How can I save my score to upload later? QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS Will using this software void my warranty? The standard warranty agreement does not change – Intel does not warrant overclocking. HWBOT is a community site for overclockers, made and maintained by overclockers. We don’t care about warranty and overclock anyway. HWBOT is not responsible for any failures before, during and after testing XTU profiles hosted at the site. All overclocking happens at your own risk. Will this work on my system? The Intel XTU sofware application will work on any Z77 and Z87 system, provided that the mainboard BIOS supports this application. There are different levels of BIOS support, going from basic support of the benchmark, over medium support of on-the-fly overclocking to full support with fully compatible online profile sharing. Certifications for compatible XTU mainboards are being issued on a per-board basis by the HWBOT Test Lab. For more information, please visit our XTU support page. This software doesn’t work, it is broken! Although we are fully aware software is never perfect and therefore XTU might contain a bug or two, it is possible that your bug is not caused by the software. XTU support relies on the mainboard development teams to provide sufficient support from the BIOS in order to have the full support for XTU. See question #2. For bug report and other questions, feel free to pass by in our forums. Is there a list of supported configurations? Yes, find the list here: . I downloaded a profile and it didn’t work, what now? No need to panic, everything is just fine. After all, overclocking will always be partially troubleshooting. That is what makes it fun and interesting. In case the downloaded profile did not work, you can always try another one. Can I use this software without internet connection? Yes, you can. XTU will work as a standalone software overclocking utility and allow local on-the-fly changes even if you are not connected to the internet. You can also save a benchmark score locally and upload manually to HWBOT later. I like this software so much, how can I donate? The only form of donation we accept is spreading the love for overclocking. If you like this software and the integration, tell your friends, family, co-workers and pets about it! The more love for overclocking, the better! What does the score mean? Nothing. Well, not nothing but very little. The XTU benchmark score does not reflect any real world workload and is not designed to be used in reviews or as meaningful performance comparison tool. It is designed to quickly assess your configuration’s performance and compared to similar overclocked configurations. We use the performance index to visualize progress and provide users a simpler interface for overclocking. Simply said, higher is better. That is all you need to know. I just flashed the BIOS and XTU does not read out the values anymore! It may happen that after a bios flash XTU will no longer display all the information after a BIOS flash. It is possible that the new BIOS has less support for XTU, but it might also be due to the need of a power cycle. A power cycle can be performed by simply shutting down your system, unplugging the power cable, wait for a couple of seconds and then plug the power back in. After the power cycle, the information may be restored. How can I save my score to upload later? Saving a benchmark result to upload later is quite simple: Run the benchmark Click on Save in the lower right corner (image) Enter a name for your saved profile/score (image) Go to the Profile tab and click on the saved score (image) Click on Export Profile and save the profile/score on a local disk (image) Go to the HWBOT website to upload the score manually (image)

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Known Possible Issues XTU unable to read out correct MNTR MNTR is not applied when downloading a profile When using different applications, XTU cannot read the settings correctly XTU cannot read out X/Y/Z overclocking setting 1. XTU unable to read out correct MNTR Because of the technical limitations of XTU described in the technical info thread. What it boils down to is that XTU is reading the MNTR from CPU MSR 194h and not all mainboard vendors are updating that register. Usually, if the register is unused it will be programmed to FF00 and XTU will read the MNTR as 35x. In order to correctly read out the MNTR and therefore support benchmark submissions with non Turbo ratios, mainboard vendors should program the correct MNTR to field 194h. List of mainboards with correct MNTR read-out support Z87A-GD65 Gaming As a general rule of thumb, it is best to stick to overclocking with Turbo Ratios only for the time being. 2. MNTR is not applied when downloading a profile Known issue for the current version of XTU (V4.0.29.0 and up). The MNTR was originally not planned as being available for adjustment as it is not realtime adjustable. With the new BCLK Gear Ratio, the MNTR functionality will be more used, however, so having it programmable via profiles will be included in a future release. For now, you can use the MNTR as long as you don't export or import a profile. So, if you save the profile within XTU, the MNTR will be configured. If you download or import a profile, it will not be included. 3. When using different applications, XTU cannot read the settings correctly first of all, Intel XTU is not designed to replace all your realtime overclocking software applications. It is designed to help new K-SKU users to get into overclocking without too much hassle. Therefore, the XTU profile settings is not based on realtime updated values, but on values configured at boot or adjusted within XTU. If you are using another application to overclock your hardware, those changes will not be present in the XTU profile. If you want to have an accurate XTU profile, you will have to configure your settings within XTU or the BIOS. This "issue by design" will probably be around as long as vendors implement their own way of addressing voltages and frequencies. 4. XTU cannot read out X/Y/Z overclocking setting In order to make XTU work with your motherboard, ODM and OEM vendors have to expose the XTU handles in their BIOS. Depending on how much of the BIOS is exposed, you will see all, partial, or no overclocking settings in XTU. This problem can only be resolved by mainboard developers, so if you want XTU support for your mainboard you should contact your mainboard vendor.

1. Minimum Spec Requirements Supported platforms: Z77 Z87 Motherboards tested by HWBOT Testlab: GIGABYTE Z87X-OC MSI Z87A-GD65 Gaming Notebooks tested by HWBOT Testlab: / 2. Official XTU Certified Motherboards TBD (for OEM/ODM who want to know more about the XTU certification process, please contact pieter@hwbot.org) 3. User Support Feedback Template If you want to provide feedback on your system's compatibility, feel free to reply here using our feedback template. We will include your testing results in the list above and link to your testing reply. Any help is always much appreciated! [b]1) General Information[/b] - Motherboard name: - Chipset: - BIOS: - Processor name: - XTU version: - XTU switch in BIOS: Y/N [b]2) Additional media as information[/b] - System Information tab: - Core control tab: - GPU control tab - Memory control tab - Link to stock XTU profile: - Link to overclocked XTU profile: [b]3) Read information checklist[/b] To go over this checklist, you can go into the bios and enable, disable or adjust the various settings. If XTU detects a change, you can check "Y". Core information - Reference clock (default, adjusted): Y/N, Y/N - Maximum non turbo ratio (default, adjusted): Y/N, Y/N - Turbo ratios (default, adjusted): Y/N, Y/N - PEG/DMI ratio (default, adjusted): Y/N, Y/N - EIST (enabled/disabled): Y/N - Turbo (enabled/disabled): Y/N - Core voltage adaptive (default, adjusted): Y/N - Core voltage static (default, adjusted): Y/N - Processor cache voltage adaptive (default, adjusted): Y/N - Processor cache voltage static (default, adjusted): Y/N GPU information To ensure this information is available, you must first confirm if the GPU is actually running. Some motherboards will shutdown the IGP if a dedicated graphics card is used. - GPU multiplier - GPU voltage Memory information - SPD: Y/N - Timings: Y/N - Memory clock multiplier (default, adjusted): Y/N, Y/N - Memory multiplier (default, adjusted): Y/N, Y/N - Memory voltage (default, adjusted): Y/N, Y/N [b]4) Tuning checklist[/b] Realtime adjustable - CPU Reference clock: Y/N - CPU Turbo ratios: Y/N - CPU Core voltage adaptive: Y/N - CPU Core voltage static: Y/N - CPU Processor cache voltage adaptive: Y/N - CPU Processor cache voltage static : Y/N - GPU Multiplier: Y/N - GPU voltage: Y/N - Memory voltage: Y/N Via reboot-POST adjustable - CPU Maximum non turbo ratio: Y/N - CPU PEG/DMI ratio: Y/N - CPU EIST (enabled/disabled): Y/N - CPU Turbo (enabled/disabled): Y/N - Memory SPD: Y/N - Memory Timings: Y/N (might have to specify which timings fail) - Memory clock multiplier: Y/N - Memory multiplier: Y/N [b]5) Social overclocking support[/b] - Save profile in XTU: Y/N - Load profile in XTU: Y/N - Successfully apply loaded profile (only realtime): Y/N - Successfully apply loaded profile (with reboot): Y/N - Export profile out of XTU: Y/N - Import profile into XTU: Y/N - Successfully apply imported profile (only realtime): Y/N - Successfully apply imported profile (with reboot): Y/N - Upload profile to HWBOT: Y/N - Download profile from HWBOT: Y/N - Successfully apply downloaded profile (only realtime): Y/N - Successfully apply downloaded profile (with reboot): Y/N 4. Unofficial Compatibility Reports Different levels of support compatibility: 1. Benchmark and stress tool support 2. Read system information 3. Available OC tabs (options: CPU, GPU, Memory) 4. Realtime overclockin4.1 CPU realtime overclocking support (options: CPU bclk, CPU turbo ratio, CPU ring bus ratio, CPU voltage) 4.2 GPU realtime overclocking support (options: GPU ratio, GPU voltage) 4.3 Memory realtime overclocking support (options: MEM voltage) [*]5. "POST" overclocking 5.1 CPU "POST" OC (options: CPU MNTR, EIST, Turbo) 5.2 Memory "POST" OC (options: divider, timings, SPD) [*]6. Save/Load Profile Support [*]7. Export/import upload/download Profile Support 4.1 Benchmark and stress tool support Full supportGIGABYTE Z87X-OC MSI Z87A-GD65 Gaming [*]Partial support [*]No support / 4.2 Read system information Full supportGIGABYTE Z87X-OC MSI Z87A-GD65 Gaming [*]Partial support / [*]No support / 4.3 Available OC tabs (options: CPU, GPU, Memory) Full supportMSI Z87A-GD65 Gaming [*]Partial support GIGABYTE Z87X-OC (CPU, VGA) [*]No support / 4.4.1 CPU realtime overclocking support (options: CPU bclk, CPU turbo ratio, CPU ring bus ratio, CPU voltage) Full supportMSI Z87A-GD65 Gaming [*]Partial support GIGABYTE Z87X-OC [*]No support / 4.4.2 GPU realtime overclocking support (options: GPU ratio, GPU voltage) Full supportMSI Z87A-GD65 Gaming [*]Partial support GIGABYTE Z87X-OC [*]No support / 4.4.3 Memory realtime overclocking support (options: MEM voltage) Full supportMSI Z87A-GD65 Gaming [*]Partial support / [*]No support GIGABYTE Z87X-OC 4.5.1 CPU "POST" OC (options: CPU MNTR, EIST, Turbo) Full supportMSI Z87A-GD65 Gaming [*]Partial support GIGABYTE Z87X-OC [*]No support / 4.5.2 Memory "POST" OC (options: divider, timings, SPD) Full supportMSI Z87A-GD65 Gaming [*]Partial support / [*]No support GIGABYTE Z87X-OC 4.6 Save/Load Profile Support Full supportMSI Z87A-GD65 Gaming [*]Partial support GIGABYTE Z87X-OC [*]No support / 4.7 Export/import upload/download Profile Support Full supportMSI Z87A-GD65 Gaming [*]Partial support GIGABYTE Z87X-OC [*]No support /

Actually I like the ECS version of blingbling gold better. At least they follow through with the design and make the socket gold-looking too.

Okay, noted. For the Asus event you will probably have to contact AndreYang directly.

Getting really close to launch now ...

... elephant tornado!

Been busy all weekend setting up the office. 85% done now, ready to go "to work" on Monday.

"Not willing" isn't the right phrase; they just don't have those BIOSes (yet).