Massman

This topic came up at the last staff meeting: should we set the stock frequency of a CPU to the stock rating or the turbo rating of this CPU? I'm not against the idea of doing this ... after all, at stock settings the turbo mode will be enabled anyway. I vote 'set turbo mode as stock frequency'.

Imposing a CPU Mhz limitation in a CPU MHz ranking is ... kinda stupid.

CPU with LN2, but air VGAs will go in the Xtreme part. As mentioned in the first post, this concept is working from the bottom up: we don't try to separate the super-seeded overclockers from the 'normal' extreme overclockers, but we separate the casual overclockers from the extreme. Also, this is just a concept ... nothing has been put in practice yet.

One of the problems of the current overclocking is that it's dominated by golden samples ... even if it was just by luck, but in most cases because huge amounts of money is thrown at it. For the enthusiast league, we want to keep things low-profile and not let golden samples be ruling the league. This kind of league is different from the Overclockers League we have now and will also be treated as such. It's a side project ... no worries

Typical ... I switch to Clarkdale and he posts some Lynnfield run. AAARGH!

The issue is indeed that we can't check the temperature. There are two things this concept has: - We impose an invisible MHz limitation to each HW that is based on the average overclockability on air/water. This way, we can remove the entries with 7GHz 980X "on air" as well as exclude golden samples on air cooling - We put the air/water scores in the same ranking as the extreme scores (like it is now). This has the advantage that there will be no direct competition in the air/water league, but everyone will have to push their setup harder anyway to get more points. It's not as simple as just beating your direct competitor. Also, this has the advantage that people who use LN2 regularly will not be able to both appear in the LN2 and the air/water ranking. Our definition of extreme is "everything below zero".

Nooooooooooooooooooo ...

The current implementation is just: Points = global + hardware (from AMD/ATI only scores) Ideally, we'd have the time to re-build the HWBOINT engine so it can calculate the rankings of the AMD/ATI scores seperatelly and give points based on that. So #1 of AMD would get full points. In fact, in this design, you loose points if you submit a better score with Intel or Nvidia Cooling choice will obviously made 'obligatory' (= not filled in equals no points).

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Hey boys and girls, Given the recent commotion about the Overclockers League being totally unfair (), we have tried to come up with a different style of overclocking league. As a try-out, we've made a very rough sketch of what could be an AMD overclockers leauge. The link is not visible through the front-page (since it's not an official feature), but you can check out what it's all about here: http://hwbot.org/rankings/amdleague/ As you can see, without too much issues we can make rankings based on specific hardware or manufacturers. This page is a nice concept of one of the ideas we've been playing with to seperate the extreme overclockers from the regular overclockers. Instead of thing top-down (eg: pro league), we've made an alternative going bottom-up. This means that we do not seperate the super-seeded from the regular-seeded, but the extreme from the non extreme. The enthusiast league: - cooling limited to ambient (= stock, air, water) - frequency of each CPU and VGA limited to undisclosed value to prevent cheating and golden samples ruining the game - no seperate result ranking based on cooling, points are gathered from the normal rankings(*) - possibly: exclude expensive hardware from rankings The extreme league: - no cooling limitation - no frequency limitation - points are gathered from normal rankings (*) (*) the normal rankings are rankings based on the hardware/manufacturer limitation. So, for this AMD league, the points are not calculate based on the entire database, but only based on the results with AMD/ATI hardware. This means it's possible that certain benchmarks (eg: 01 and 1M) have less weight than the normal rankings because they are a lot less popular than when you include intel hardware. The idea behind using the same rankings for the enthusiast and extreme rankings is that there will be noticable transition when you switch from ambient cooling to extreme cooling. To show you how it works, this example: - my best score on ambient cooling is rankined 89th in the superpi 1M ranking; I get 20 points for that. - those 20 points are added to my total for the enthusiast ranking; I now have 180 points - the next day, I use LN2 to cool my cpu and get a score that is ranked 15th in the 1M ranking; i get 60 points for that. - these 60 points are added to my total for the extreme league Since only your best submission is ranked, the submission with ambient cooling now receives 0 points. So, the total for my enthusiast league has dropped with 20 points. This method applies to all rankings and categories, which makes it a necessity to only choose for ambient, or only choose for extreme overclocking (since you cannot have two accounts in hwbot). So, you can be the Extreme King, or the Enthusiast King ... but not both. This, to make sure the extreme overclockers play in their own league. Note: the current ranking has not been calculated as explained above. It would take too much time to do it properly, and time is something we do not have available currently. At this moment, we just make a sum of all points that are added to AMD/ATI scores.

I fixed all my OCP issues just with the one OCP modification?

Setting CPU ratio to 23x results in actual ratio of 27x

I did - can't go much tighter. There's a new score up, though/

It's scheduled to come back It was actually never meant to go

Probably space + slot 3 is x16 anyways.

I am running 210MHz BCLK?

What? The CPU MHz is limited ... it doesn't matter whether you have ES or not.

I thought so to ... untill Dino said it's all alright

Been over my settings a million times now, but still can't find a way to get the other 3 seconds Sam's telling me about . I guess I won't be doing much better than this: The Lynnfield IMC is a lot better than the Clarkdale IMC, so you probably won't be seeing these clocks on Clarkdale. Since Leeghoofd is pressuring me not to kill the GTX2 ... I only run 1.74V on the memory.

Are people boycotting this competition or so?

For those who want to see how well they are doing while running the benchmark, or need comparisons: I'm uploading all my runs to Photobucket for reference. Most of them are with copy-waza (maybe the slow ones not - unsure), but you can use these runs for reference without waza as well. I'm gaining approx 5-6sec with Waza. http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s261/Massman-/HWBOT/GIGABYTE%20H55N-USB3%20SPI%2032M%20runs/9m5s141.png http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s261/Massman-/HWBOT/GIGABYTE%20H55N-USB3%20SPI%2032M%20runs/9m4s641.png http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s261/Massman-/HWBOT/GIGABYTE%20H55N-USB3%20SPI%2032M%20runs/8m59s781.png http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s261/Massman-/HWBOT/GIGABYTE%20H55N-USB3%20SPI%2032M%20runs/8m59s391.png http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s261/Massman-/HWBOT/GIGABYTE%20H55N-USB3%20SPI%2032M%20runs/8m58s110.png http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s261/Massman-/HWBOT/GIGABYTE%20H55N-USB3%20SPI%2032M%20runs/8m57s812.png http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s261/Massman-/HWBOT/GIGABYTE%20H55N-USB3%20SPI%2032M%20runs/8m55s750.png http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s261/Massman-/HWBOT/GIGABYTE%20H55N-USB3%20SPI%2032M%20runs/8m55s234.png http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s261/Massman-/HWBOT/GIGABYTE%20H55N-USB3%20SPI%2032M%20runs/8m54s610.png http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s261/Massman-/HWBOT/GIGABYTE%20H55N-USB3%20SPI%2032M%20runs/8m54s359.png http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s261/Massman-/HWBOT/GIGABYTE%20H55N-USB3%20SPI%2032M%20runs/8m53s875.png http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s261/Massman-/HWBOT/GIGABYTE%20H55N-USB3%20SPI%2032M%20runs/8m53s719.png http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s261/Massman-/HWBOT/GIGABYTE%20H55N-USB3%20SPI%2032M%20runs/8m52s781.png http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s261/Massman-/HWBOT/GIGABYTE%20H55N-USB3%20SPI%2032M%20runs/8m52s609.png

What kind of Maxmem are you guys running? I have the feeling that I'm not running a really good C-W ... avail/sys is still 480/518 :-/

This board is OCP-ing all day long

I don't care about golden chips, I don't care about magic tweaks, I don't care about ego trips, I care about OC, ... freaks! Just wanted to say I'm having a blast overclocking this little GA-H55N-USB3 mainboard. I don't really care where I end up in the ranking or who is beating me with what hardware ... I'm just having fun overclocking for the sake of overclocking. Am I the only one?