Massman

It's an incredibly complicated workaround since mb socket can differ from cpu socket.

939 - yes 754 - yes (close) AM2 - yes 940 - yes AM2+ - yes (close) AM3 - no

writing queries for the socket king/guru/junkie achievements at the moment. I'm using the socket characteristic of the cpu model for this achievement, not the mainboard model. This means that you can get achievements by using an AM3 cpu on an AM2 mainboard. The alternative is to go by mainboard socket characteristic, but this will require people to select a motherboard model. In addition, it doesn't solve the socket combination problem: there are socket convertors out there as well. Imho, the first alternative (go by cpu socket characteristic) is the best alternative

What if the lack of score validation is taken care of?

The problem is that you're using V1.73. This version had a known latency-GT bug (architecture details were not installed in app yet). You need 1.82 to have a working version.

It's because you're great!

The problem is that LN2 people who break cards send them back for RMA. Hardware mods can be detected, but software mods can't.

Good questions. Initially, there's no relegation/promotion aspect planned. This means that whoever wants to join the Pro League can do so, and whoever wants to stay in the Amateur League can also do so. There's also no fixed # of participants in either leagues ... it's open for all. We will, however, put a control mechanism on joining the Pro League. This means that you can apply to go in the OC Pro League and we have to verify the application. This is only to prevent newcomers, who haven't proven a thing, to join the league just so they can brag to their friends about is. Also, it's a good way to keep the standard of the League up. Manufacturers have control over the samples they send out and the competition stages they set up (that is following our guidelines). They do not have any saying in who must or can not join the Pro League, although I can imagine that they'll ask some people to switch. There's no guarantee that you get ANY hardware if you join the pro league ... it's very likely that in the freestyle part of the competition only two/three people get acces (~ secret oc events we know). As for the competition aspect (which is as important as freestyle at this moment), there are no guarantees either ... but I can imagine that they will send out loads of hw to have the biggest chance of getting big results.

Do you like the benchmark? What do you hate about it?

They can go in the Amateur League if they want. The idea is that MFCs will support this concept and will not support Amateur League participants with binned hardware. F1OC was ... T-O-T-A-L-L-Y different.

http://hwbot.org/blog/wp-content//26.jpg Bottom of the picture: those are the switches. Vcore/Vioh/Vdimm/VTT (maybe different order, read manual! ). Unlike on previous boards, these switches don't give +0.1V from the start, but if you move them up, you enable the upper voltage options in the bios.

Good remark, Dean! The split-up between amateur and pro rankings isn't 100% what people have asked for. It's not the separation between those who get the occasional freebie from those who get absolutely nothing. There's a simple reason for that: sponsorships come in all forms and all shapes + there's no way that we can check/verify this. Even if it's not getting a board from a vendor, you can have a deal with a local shop that allows you to test 20 980X and buy the best one. If there's no way to control it, there's no need for us to make rules that suggest we have control. Mainly, the split-off is to remove the so-called marketing overclocking from the amateur scene. Mfc who have hardware access and want to use that acces to bin for world records do not really belong in a league where a household overclocker is competing as well. So, they should go in the pro league. But, in order to make this league somewhat interesting, we added another component to it with competitions and allow everyone else to join the competition if they want to. If Mfc agree to this concept, and fully support it, joining the PRO league could be good exposure if you get nice results. I don't think we will ever be able to solve the problem of the whiners. I think the ES poll thread has proven that some of the whiners don't really have a valid point, but only want to complain for the sake of complaining. What we try, there's always room to complain about anything. Maybe the background color of hwbot will be offensive or so ...

You need to use the OC switches on the bottom of the board to enable more voltage.

Really ... it's not my pot. I'm just using it a lot. And also, I got one board for testing and Madshrimps one for review. Also, don't whine ... just beat that score haha

I need two people who beat Chew in the DDR3 class so I can finally jump over him

Seriously? 62% of the votes in this thread say "yes, please make two leagues" and now that the suggestion is here all we get is replies against the idea. In the end, this just looks like "oh, we just like to complain about everything" Maybe even the end of the universe . Please explain ...

Competitions would still be open to everyone. Ideally, comps are split up in: - Extreme: high-end hardware, binning allowed, counts for pro league points - Mainstream: mainstream hardware, no binning, no ES, stand-alone competition - Extreme: everyone can compete if you have the right hardware - Mainstream: only non-pro can compete - Overclockers League = like it is now, but ES removed - OC Pro League = seeded/supported guys can go in here, marketing benching goes in here, everything allowed - Teams League = like it is right now - Hardware points = like it is now - Global points = like it is now, but pro scores do not influence points of normal scores - 3D-WR points = points awarded to top 3D results (multi-gpu)

Just FYI. With the OCP mod of Kinc, you can't use Vgpu hardmod anymore. Need software.

I understand what you're saying (we've looked into this before), but it doesn't look totally feasible. First of all, it's not always very difficult to get high ranks in hardware categories: with new CPU architecture, you can own an older (but popular) 3D hardware ranking. Sure, it takes some time and LN2 to do so, but 'skill' isn't really necessary to grab 20 points. Secondly, we don't want to make the already popular hardware categories even more popular than they are now. There's no need to put a lot of focus on, for instance, the 8800GTX category. Some folks already said that we put too much focus on these categories now when the new HWBOINTS revision came to life. The real need for high-end hardware has also been addressed. Before 980X, you could get far with a good 960 or 950 and a single graphics card. Of course, 980X is making it a bit more expensive now.

Yes, that's the way I run my card without any issues.

3D WR points were added for a very, very specific reason: top overall scores did not get propper reward. With SPI, the top overall scores already get the highest reward, so there's no problem with that.

Why are those needed? //edit: and seriously, that's the first reply on this topic

http://hwbot.org/forum/showthread.php?t=8239

http://hwbot.org/forum/showthread.php?t=8239

Not really. The combination of multipliers worked, so I just started increasing the HTT frequency.