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  1. dhunt3r55 said:
    hi,

    i buy today this kit off mushkin , i wonder iff they are really good overclokers and iff anyone has one memory off this brand that can share opinion.

     

    thank you

     

    here´s a pic off the box: http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/BiMAAOSw241YbqTn/s-l1600.jpg

     

    You can find some info here, the ic's used are PSC-X or BBSE most likely. It appears that hwbot member "emissary42" had powerchip PSC-X in his, these are his findings

    https://www.hardwareluxx.de/community/f13/hardwareluxx-spd-datenbank-ddr4-ic-liste-last-update-28-10-18-a-1073628.html

    https://www.hardwareluxx.de/community/f12/msi-z97m-gaming-live-review-done-1062683.html

    a) [PSC] Mushkin Copperhead 996772 (2x2GB DDR3-1600 7-8-7-20 1.65V)

    the42mushkincopprhead996772.jpg

    This is one of my newer kits that has never been tested on any other motherboard. Since it is not entirely clear what type of IC these specifications are, the first OC attempts were mainly for identification purposes. In the race were some Elpida variants, as well as more or less good Powerchips (PSC). The settings to configure the training of the memory were not touched. The Z97M GAMING behaved consistently in non-bootable settings, after three attempts to start is greeted by the Overclocking Failed message and asked if you want to load one of the stored profiles. Resetting the CMOS was never necessary.
     
    DDR3-2200 7-10-7-26 1T 1.63V DDR3-2400 8-11-7-27 2T 1.82V
    the42msiz97mgaming_mushkin996772_01.png the42msiz97mgaming_mushkin996772_02.png

    It quickly turned out that Mushkin apparently used ICs from Powerchip on this copy. Due to the production date in 2009, this should be the X variant. Typical is a good scaling with CL7 at relatively low voltages. For DDR3-2200 tCL7 and tWL 6 the kit needed only 1.63V and a minimal increase of tRCD and tRAS. At DDR3-2400, however, suddenly no command rate of 1 more was possible. Even with the use of the 125 or 167 straps this could not be avoided. Whether this is a general problem of the Z97M GAMING with this type of IC, will require the next tests with other kits. Since the required voltage for DDR3-2400 was already quite high and even DDR3-2600 CL8 could not be started at 1.90V, further tests with the Copperheads are not planned for the time being.

    Update: Even with my other and better quality PSC based kits DDR3-2400 command rate of 1T is no longer possible (tested with Corsair CMGTX1 , OCZ OCZ3RPR2133C7LV4GK OCZ3R ).

     

    It also looks like hwbot member blabla123 had them too, but I noticed 996772 is Muskin Copperhead, not Blackline. Either way the 7-8-7-20 @ 1.65v timings mean psc or bbse most likely

     

    BAZA podkręcania oraz kompatybilności pamięci DDR2, DDR3 i DDR4- dowolna platforma - Forum PCLab.pl - Strona 51

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  2. By @Leeghoofd at the Las Vegas event.

     

    Stepping: L639G046

    Test: 5g 4c8t cinebench, lowest voltage, air heatsink cooler

     

    To add to this I figured out the average voltage needed based upon the binning criteria, as well as the median V. There were 35 total entries 3 of which have no info, so 32 counted

     

    Total = 41.635v

     

    41.635 / 32 = 1.30109375v Average

    High- 1.375v Low- 1.230v Median- 1.3025v

  3. Results checked, grats to the winners, tbh I expected the race to be a bit more tight like at skylake. Some high class results, but not as much as on the newer gen runs

     

    Haha, thanks but there were no high class results. Pretty sure I was the only guy who went sub zero and only did 2 runs for each stage. I was hoping for some of the PSC heads to give it a go since I was a bit late to the ddr3 party. Should of stuck with air to keep it fair but that's no fun

  4. Sure hope the pending sale goes through David, I would of bought this right away if I thought I'd have time for OSBS. It would be a shame tho if not used in comp it was made for and why it's not currently here. $35 doesn't even cover labor in my mind so someones getting a free card and mod materials for $45 shipped US, Keep up the good work bro !

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