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  1. The only benchmark this should be relevant for is motherboard reference clock anyway. Same as hardware sharing rules.

     

    eg. I am submitting XTU (CPU benchmark) with an ES videocard = no problem.

    eg. I am submitting 3dmark06 (3d benchmark) with a kit of ES ram = no problem.

    eg. I am submitting XTU (CPU benchmark) with an ES motherboard = no problem.

    eg. I am a non-elite member submitting an ES 6950X XTU score = problem.

     

    You forgot ES power supply, ES ln2 pots, ES digi thermometer, ssd, mouse, keyboard, yellow tinted OC glasses and on n' on :P

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  2. So the day we see the first Z270 board on Newegg, the ES/Not ES thing for Z170 LN2 board will no longer be an issue, right ?

     

    Either way I'm going to enjoy mine thoroughly, overclocking memory is what I enjoy anyways. . . points are just a byproduct. I'm not anything remotely special in the hardware world and yet I found a way to get one. I have always lived by the rule if you want something that's hard to buy, find something to give you leverage. In this case it was a kit of killer DDR4 that got me what I wanted, tomorrow it might be a pair of rare sneakers. . . you never know

  3. This has been bothering me and a few others I know for a while now, to the point Im not even benching 32m at the moment which if you know me is strange.

     

    Now to the real point. If you are in the top 10 of 32m currently you know what is going on. 5002.9 is just for screens. Hold down print screen while you are at 5009 and voila 5002.9 will pop up eventually. (takes a long time if you want the cache to match) 100.187,100.125,100.067. Why dont we make 100.000 the max? There must be a way to level the field because its getting out of hand.

     

    5GHZ 32m LCC is turning into XTU where we are hoping for the longest amount of time the CPU is over the limit with BCLK fluctuation. There arent lucky runs, there are runs that the real freq is 5007 for longer than it is 5002. Thats the real "lucky" run.

     

    Videos dont work and people wont do that, OC panels and trickery can easily be done still. BCLK raising under load can also be implemented by board manufacturers so the end of a video will show correctly in CPUZ frequency.

     

    So what is my answer? Kill it for now, there are no way to verify any result unless ney flys to everyone's house and breathes down the neck while it runs.

     

    In the future maybe some sort of watch dog timer can be developed.

     

    These are just my feelings and I figure I would share them instead of being pissy about them behind the scenes.

     

    Your opinions seem to be on point with what myself and other friends who truly understand Efficiency, Memory OC and prefer to bench 32m or GB3 think. My last LCC 32m sub using B Die was the very first run on MOCF because of this reason. I feel that my kits are top 5% of all retail but would rather keep my run times to myself because having just one person thinking I cheat is too many. 32m llc has always been about honesty and integrity and the veteran OC'rs can tell when a run just isn't right or "looks funny". I'm sorry but if I know someone cheated even just one time, my mind will never see his lcc scores as legit unless there are some built in protections like GpuPi. We have also been discussing the point made about records being done on air, and I feel like B Die has been both good and bad for our community. It's nice to see more guys becoming interested since Samsung has made this easier but at the same time feel things were far better in 2012-2013 where air was somewhat competitive but if you want to be on top ln2 was a necessity.

  4. There is a picture of a rig in this competition that you can clearly see a liquid nitrogen or similar cooling canister. its funny how its from the team that wins every rookie rumble and novice nimble every time. And by a significant margin i might add

     

    So what you're saying is it's not ok for someone in the Rookie or Novice league's who has the talent and machine shop availability to build his own cooling pot to do so, even if he's never done sub zero OC. I think many guys in Novice have dabbled with sub zero as it's the only way to learn, just don't submit any scores or cheat any contest and it's fine

     

    HATER'S GONNA HATE !

  5. I had a blast dipping my toe into 3d, had a lot of OS and software issues but thats par for the course here. StrongIsland and $@39@ deserve their hard earned positions as I gave this comp everything I possibly could in terms of time. Hoping I can refill dewars soon since I only got to run 01 and Cat after I flashed bios for extended OC capabilities and GpuPi was only one I could max.

     

     

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    This was the fourth setup I tried and worked the best, cold pic was from last night around 5am two hours before deadline

     

     

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  6. Looks like a great board, I've got the Z97 version and everytime I use it I improve and am starting to get some great mem timings/clocks. The sweetspot for me would be < $300 usd but might think about it at $350. This goes for either a Z170 or Z270 ? chipset if that's the way they chose to go. This price must include Sofos 1990 and Dinos22's signature on the board

     

     

    Edit: while we're at it, let's try and get ASRock to make us an IOCF please

  7. Since the start of Cheapaz Chips Comp this has been an issue. When subbing GpuPi 1B using gt710 gk208 the gpu is automatically placed in the gf119 category. This is becoming increasingly messy and confusing since a lot of the Comp subs for all three categories are being grouped wrong. Can we find a way to make this clear as to what gpu belongs where and try and clear up the charts ? I'll place subs in approriate category if no one is available to do so, but right now the biggest problem is making a clear distinction between the two. I was looking around the web for more details, but didn't find much as most sites are talking about the more current gk208. I did fid this, though at a website who's benchmark comparisons should be taken with a grain of salt.

     

     

     

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  8. So does alcohol and contact cleaner (contains acetone)

     

    I have a gallon of the Home Depot Klean Strip 100% Acetone, so using this is to save money is of no greater risk to plastics than the contact cleaner I use assuming I'm not pouring it on my motherboard of course. I've only been using this one since it says "Plastics Safe" on it but it runs out so fast. I guess I've always thought of acetone being used repairing boats or race cars since they are fiberglass.

     

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  9. Well since the 100 galax kits were called for the first day a lot of people decided not to buy once the price was released, myself included. The demand obviously isn't great since they still had kits available earlier today and for that kind of money guys who know ram expect a minimum of 4080c12 with 49/6/50/6 rtl's but are hoping for 4080-4133c12-11 waza stable under 1.95v real

  10. if u are in america u can send them back to neweggs or anyelse, but in australia for example u can't, and u need to sell them on ebay or forum by loosing money!

     

    This is not true fyi, "Return for refund within: Non-refundable"

     

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  11. I'm close to sell my Geil Dragon memory so i've try one last run.

     

    I've found some interesting stuff:

    -I can run with proper RTL/IOL this time, but the price to pay is high, 1,30Vio/1,40Vsa

    -For correct RTL retrain may be necesary overvoltage memory. In my case Geil not fear High voltage, can pass waza @ 1,95Vdim(BIOS), but for a correct retrain need to apply 2,15Vdim(BIOS). After some strage error codes i can bootup go straight in bios and lower the Vdim, reboot and go in windows easy.

    -TCKE 5 is lower in performance compared to 6, but with XTU close to max efficiency can help.

    -TRFC 240 is fastest than 220, but 180 is fastest than 240, not all mem can handle.

     

    Thanks for sharing your experiences with them. 2.15v bios seems crazy high, I know mine would set real volts to 2.20 + and some may set it closer to 2.25v real. Farthest I've set mine was 2.05v real and they were fine, but only ran 32m once. I've noticed similar results as you with tCKE and tRFC but never tried below 190 yet since I run 4133 most of the time and 200 can give them trouble with some benchmarks.

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