Kal-EL

Not tryin to ruin his online rep but I hear from trusted sources that Massman is the coolest fucker on the planet when you meet him in-person Baby bot with a hole in his head, funny shit. Feeling a little bit offended, naturally. You pour your heart and soul into this place practically 24/7.

wait wut? OH! Now I see it! eh, no, nope, I thought I saw the double rainbow but nope, needs more sunshine tweaking before I can feel as optimistic as you do about Revision 4. Good luck tweaking bro, as I and many others percieve it at this moment, it looks like crap. Maybe putting together a better presentation might help people to not get the wrong idea about Revision 4.

I agree. I'd rather have NO CHANGE than any of the proposed changes listed here. These Revisions are Team Killers and Participation Killers which effectually is a site Traffic Killer and Exposure Killer for the Manufacturers. I've always told my guys that from the top of the ladder to the bottom, every bencher on our team is equally important. The guy with 3000 points is no more important than the rest of the team. And you know what, it keeps everyone motivated, everyone feels they are more than just an individual going it alone. They feel apart of something bigger than themselves. I got a kid, kikicoco benches his ass off every month because he feels a part of a family. He has ZERO global points. Under REV. 4 it would be utterly fruitless for him to post a single score on behalf of the team. He'd instantly be insignificant. He's not the only one either. What am I supposed to tell him now? "Kiki, keep benching for the team bro, it'll make your rich, help you score chicks, and get you a cool new job, but most definitely it won't matter one lick to the team"?????? It appears as if Rev. 4 would pretty much change the Team Rankings into a "individual" Overclockers League Ranking system. Under, Rev. 4, it would effectively turn away less supported, less financially capable overclockers from participating in any Team Competition. One guy, well seeded/supported by a manufacturer, on a "one man team" could quite possibly dominate the Team Rankings indefinitely. Throw six of these guys together and you may as well kiss it. Last time I checked with the Doctor, he told me that Manufacturers are interested in traffic, participation and marketing exposure. I see Rev 4 killing off a ton of participation which would in turn take with it traffic and marketing exposure. The reasons I've read for Rev 4 appear to be mainly about bitching. In this instance bitching about "Hardware Sharing". Its odd because I've read more bitching about Rev 4 than anything else ever. There was concern about bitching moving to some other area besides "Hardware Sharing". Yah, it'll move far away to another area alright. I understand the large amount of time and effort Massman has put into this Rev 4 idea. Heck, I even read two instances of him saying "please" to the membership. Kudos for effort bro but Rev 4 I really really think is bad business.

Oh man, missed it by |____| much, lol.

That all you got big boy? Ima put my "Hurt Locker" suit on and detonate some bombs this weeked lol

A gpu id tool would be great too Or an Hwbot app that runs in the background with your unique hwbot purchased product key that records all processes, date, time stamp, has a screenshot feature that takes screenshot and uploads all the info to hwbot with your unique key attached, gets verified and approved. Crash? too bad. Only runs on Retail hardware, grabs ID's from everything possible. Provides bank account info for hwbot financial support.

Very kick ass run bro

Keep POOOOOSHING!!!!!!!!!

The roof, the roof, the roof is on fire, we don't need no flooding, let the mofo burn, burn mofo burn?

There are all manners of possibilities, I think we've all come to that conclusion. I don't think anyone has the silver bullet that will cure all evils. If thats what we're looking for, may as well stop looking cuz it doesn't exist. I thought we were working towards a more achievable goal of reducing hardware sharing.

How many people would actually send a "Golden" anything to their m8's? To me thats both stupid and crazy. That "Golden" would be "Deaden" in no time flat.

If they solve it, great! If they don't, then all it means is another fracture or splinter in the community, Bad!

For the most part I see that the Team Captains from a great majority of teams have the support and respect of their team members. Rather than many voices shouting (some at a varying degree of frustration or emo state) at one time, you have one or two voices from a particluar team that speak deliberately rather than brashly. With any luck, you'll have Team's Discussing issues within their own community and Team Captains presenting those issues, concerns or thoughts with one "Reasonable" voice. This may work well for Team related hwbot business in a sub-forum but general issues would still need to be discussed in an open forum as there are many players here that don't belong to a "Team". So, instead of having 1000+ teams with anywhere from 5 to 300 members each, lets say 300,000 members all posting whatever comes to mind at any particular moment, you have 1000+ people who have discussed the issue within their Team and come to a well thought out consensus on what they feel should be expressed and the manner in which it should be conveyed.

I think Sweet has good thoughts on making the rules so very clear as to remove any doubt what is within the rules and what is not. Also, requiring more information in the screenshots like the mainboard and spd tabs is a step in the right direction. Requiring complete screenshots from the top of the ranking to the bottom, irregardless of FM links provided or not, IMO is a step in the right direction. Holding Team Captains accountable for their team members actions will prompt them to keep a closer eye on whats happening within their teams, take action! and likely result in self-regulated removal of suspected violations ordered by the Team Captains themselves before any complaints are actually lodged. How bout starting some sort of CrimeStoppers system where if a member has knowledge of hardware sharing violations and can provide concrete evdience of sharing, the rat bastard gets acknowledged publicly for standing up for what's right and gets a free system sponsored by the manufacturers here at hwbot. (prolly an unpopular suggestion) Whatever comes, I hope things can be resolute and widely amiable soon, regardless of any disagreement I've had in the past, I've always appreciated the db service provided here at hwbot but I know there are already more than a few groups from different nations working hard on creating their own rendition of hwbot.

BOOOM! OCAFTMFW! Make sure you keep a pic of the IHS w/your name for the hater. Hahaha, nice accomplishment brudder

The call was for suggestions on how to reduce it. If the team captain is running the sharing scheme, then its a smart bullet to place in that member's head to kill that scheme.

I see. - Have submissions also include pics of cpu ihs and gpu ihs - require video of scores that fall into the top 5 ranking - Hold Team Captains responsible in addition to the offenders of Hardware/Score sharing. - Solicit Futuremark for support in auto-flagging identical hardware id setups in 3D apps

Koolness

What board are you using?

Chant: Re-Bench Re-Bench Re-Bench!!! Push it MOAR!!!!!

Happy Birthday

Did you stick with the 28multi the whole time?

You saving backups oxyyy? -160c @1.85v looks like you have a few hundred more mhz in this ripping chip

Next session 7ghz?

Congrats on getting some very nice results your first time out on Ln2 OCM. You made it look so easy on that budget motherboard