Massman Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Zzolio asked to make a subforum for the MOA grand final participants to discuss the rules. So here's the subforum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtreme Addict Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Kind email to MSI was sent. I pointed out valid arguments, hope other will do same and MSI will listen to us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob(nz) Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 I dont have the reference point of past comps to compare this one with personally, but for what its worth, I'll share my views on the final structure..... 1. I can live with the fly in / fly out restrictions personally. Understand that MSI dont want us playing with other vendors at the same time, as long as the logistics work for flights etc (I dont want to be sitting in an airport for 15 hours waiting for a connecting flight in HK just because they want me out of Taipei) 2. Competition Hardware - I find it really strange that we are being sent a Z97 board that we probably already have, but not the video card that is not available retail and nobody (or very few people) have actually seen or used. We have no real setup time prior to the comp starting, and have 2 hours to learn the card and spit out world records in the process. I am always up for a challenge, but this seems crazy to me if MSI want the best results..... 3. Weighting of Classic Battle versus No Limits Battle - it seems the winner will be whoever has the most cash, not the best skill with the current format. My maths might be a bit rusty - but there are 8 graphics card tests that have the potential for either hardware top scores or a global top score. So being a pessimist and only focusing on harware top scores, if I turned up with 3 GTX760 cards and did a great job in clocking, I could earn 2 hardware points for 1, 2 and 3 card setups, over 8 tests, and there is 48 points. Twice as much as the Classic Battle winner, and I have 12 hours to do it What if I turn up with 6 cards, or 12? Just think of all the points I could earn running Crossfire / SLI on air Of course I will need to take out a new mortgage to buy all 33 graphics cards I need to guarantee victory...... 4. Timing of No LIMITS Battle - linked to the point above, I can actually stop benching in the Classic battle one hour before the end and start posting scores in the No Limits one - more points to be had, so why not......not sure this is what MSI really want in terms of focus for the event Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzolio Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 Kind email to MSI was sent. I pointed out valid arguments, hope other will do same and MSI will listen to us I think you are absolutely right MSI will listen to us My plan with this thread is that we can send a single message to MSI that speaks for all involved. This way MSI is not going to get 19 emails telling them we hate the rules we can also find a good solution for how we would like the rules to be and send a proposal to MSI I don't think we should be talking about boycotting the MOA or turn it into a beer competitions it does nothing good for MOA there is lot of time to change the rules there is only ourselves to blame for the short time in Taipei this year there have been some who have visited other manufacturers the last few years. so I can understand MSI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtreme Addict Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 You clearly don't check my FB, rules already changed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikecdm Posted September 23, 2014 Share Posted September 23, 2014 You must have written the rules since you are the only one that knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose83 Posted September 24, 2014 Share Posted September 24, 2014 Msi send me new Rules yesterday evening Check your mails Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunslinger Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 (edited) anyone have the MOA bios for these motherboards? Mine shipped with V1.5 which pretty much locked down. Edited October 2, 2014 by Gunslinger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose83 Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Will Test mine on weekend What You mean locked? 1.5 is Moa bios... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunslinger Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 mikecdm figured it out, it was the OC Genie settings, it had all the core options locked down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose83 Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Ok i allways have it off Hard time Limit for me only have 4 days to prepare Moa Os Installations, Moa Board and get cards ready Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzolio Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 try and reflash bios to 1.5 worked for me. we have to use 1.5 for moa it is in the rules Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunslinger Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Its working fine now, the OC Genie factory settings had it so that I could not change any of the CPU multis, DRAM multis or change any voltages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunslinger Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 (edited) Does anyone have the command center lite that we'll be using? Edited October 7, 2014 by Gunslinger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunslinger Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 The board shutdown midbench and won't restart, awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose83 Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 I had similar with my Emea Board. Try erase bios with fpt and flash new Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunslinger Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 upside down video of the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose83 Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Oh well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtreme Addict Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 typical shutdowns on msi z97 series, you have to bin boards, deal with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunslinger Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 Yes, but this is stock, ambient temps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose83 Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 I can see dead Mpower boards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikecdm Posted October 5, 2014 Share Posted October 5, 2014 might need hard reset Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose83 Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 I have gunslingers Problem now too After some hours Board went crazy oh well^^ Maybee 1.5 bios is the issue, im on air too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikecdm Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 So who is going to mod everyones 780ti and is that person trustworthy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzolio Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 you should do it yourself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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