Administrators websmile Posted July 12, 2015 Administrators Posted July 12, 2015 (edited) Hwmonitor is needed for temp monitoring, it hasn´t been checked if it is reliable and safe against manipulation on Mainboard version and brand. There was one person on the comp that did not show mainboard tab on the results that were checked and I will not change rules that have been used for years because someone forgot to do what all others do and wants to make new rules in his own favour - you can send PM to Christian Ney if you think that rules are not fair and have to be changed, maybe he will overrule, but personally, without overrule, I will not accept results without CPUZ mainboard tab Edited July 12, 2015 by websmile Quote
Teleloco Posted July 14, 2015 Posted July 14, 2015 Hi, I have an Asus Maximus Vii Ranger, can I participate? Quote
speed.fastest Posted July 15, 2015 Posted July 15, 2015 is my result in stage 3 valid? because if this not valid i need re-run. Thanks All. Quote
Massman Posted July 15, 2015 Posted July 15, 2015 I've forwarded the result to the moderators. From the looks of it, it seems bugged. But of course the result moderators are better suited for this. Quote
speed.fastest Posted July 15, 2015 Posted July 15, 2015 Ok thank you Massman Now i have a backup result if that result is invalid (i hope not) Quote
Evolist Posted July 16, 2015 Posted July 16, 2015 THE CPU LOAD TEMPERATURE MUST BE HIGHER THAN 20°C - YOUR SUBMISSION IS INCOMPLETE But.... Quote
MAO_FR Posted July 19, 2015 Posted July 19, 2015 I had my new scores but I have a problem. The new XTU score (with i7 4790K) is lower than last (i7 5930K). I wish for the new score appear. Quote
Mr. DB! Posted July 19, 2015 Posted July 19, 2015 (edited) when time backup war will starting? Edited July 19, 2015 by Mr. DB! Quote
Massman Posted July 19, 2015 Posted July 19, 2015 I had my new scores but I have a problem. The new XTU score (with i7 4790K) is lower than last (i7 5930K). I wish for the new score appear. You should be able to unlink a score from the submission page. Check for "remove from contest" in the sidebar. If you can't find it, let me know the link and I'll help you with it Quote
MAO_FR Posted July 19, 2015 Posted July 19, 2015 Thank you Massman. I just found the button "delete" on the submission. I think it didn't that you explained me. Quote
vadimua Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 http://hwbot.org/submission/2925457 sorry, but below 20C Quote
jab383 Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 I had at least two submissions blocked because a core temperature was at 20C, not above 20C. The latest submissions still need to be checked by moderators. Quote
Administrators websmile Posted July 20, 2015 Administrators Posted July 20, 2015 (edited) I had at least two submissions blocked because a core temperature was at 20C, not above 20C. The latest submissions still need to be checked by moderators. Non of your subs was removed because of temps - I told you that mainboard tab of CPUZ is mandatory and now see that you did all of your results you uploaded after our conversation here in thread without mainboard tab again . I have to remove them all, and on temp, I have to talk to Pieter again because it say load temp 20° at stages but 20° at general rules, for me it means sub 20 idle is forbidden as well, but I will get second opinion before I spoil people´s fun Edited July 20, 2015 by websmile Quote
Guest george.kokovinis Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 To Everyone ( Including mods ). Please be advised and alerted to the fact that temperature report of HWmonitor is incorrect. Tested on three platforms, 1) Z97-4790K 2) X99-5960X 3) E5-2699-V3 x 2 Temperatures reported are 6-7 degrees Celsius LESS than actual. Per core and as Cpu or cpus package. Test verified by direct comparison with : 1) Core temp 2) Real temp 3) Asus AIsuite3 4) MSI Command center. All tools ran simultaneously and showed +/- 1 degree of temperature accuracy. HWMONITOR showed 6-7 degrees LESS. Example : 5960X - 4.8ghz, 1.35V, with exceptionally good custom water setup. Idle as per four tools : 26-27 on all eight cores with 21 degrees ambient. HWmonitor reports 18-19 ( below ambient ) temperatures per core. Please be alerted. Quote
Administrators websmile Posted July 20, 2015 Administrators Posted July 20, 2015 Thanks for the test - for the actual comp it makes no difference though as everyone participating had the same maybe "incorrect" measuring. This is in fact one of the reasons we want competitors to use same software for readout of values and hardware, so that we have same chances for all even if something works a bit inaccurate - thanks again for the test, interesting result Quote
vadimua Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 tested, no temperature difference http://img.maryno.net/images/e229a12ff47cc9c716b9c88cfee6a690/4b13aadfe3e95ced22ff876d07b598d1.jpeg Quote
jab383 Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 Websmile: The rules page calls for "Submissions must include a picture of the rig (MB, VGA, memory, CPU cooler) during use, except XTU." That picture carries the responsibility for showing the motherboard if HW Monitor is insufficient. NOWHERE in the rules is there a call for the Mainboard CPU-Z tab -- only the CPU and Memory tabs. I have strong objection to someone making up another rule and not placing it on the rules page, especially when it is made up late in the competition. One thing I did not get from the above discussion is your authority. Are you a moderator? Quote
Guest george.kokovinis Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 Thanks for the test - for the actual comp it makes no difference though as everyone participating had the same maybe "incorrect" measuring. This is in fact one of the reasons we want competitors to use same software for readout of values and hardware, so that we have same chances for all even if something works a bit inaccurate - thanks again for the test, interesting result You are welcome. Just my 0.2 cents - 7 degrees is not a bit inaccurate. I have no interest in this competition, so I am totally objective. 7 degrees margin on idle ( 27 actual/20 HW ) or even ( 21 actual/ 14HW ), immediately excludes the potential of some really good water setup that can bring under favorable ambient conditions cpu idle temp near 20 degrees. Practically, under full load this translates to a 100-150mhz top end difference. This top end difference is more than enough to win or be excluded. Thank you. Quote
Guest george.kokovinis Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 tested, no temperature differencehttp://img.maryno.net/images/e229a12ff47cc9c716b9c88cfee6a690/4b13aadfe3e95ced22ff876d07b598d1.jpeg This is under load. I said on idle. Quote
vadimua Posted July 20, 2015 Posted July 20, 2015 This is under load.I said on idle. 'min' value, again no difference. Quote
Administrators websmile Posted July 20, 2015 Administrators Posted July 20, 2015 (edited) Websmile: The rules page calls for "Submissions must include a picture of the rig (MB, VGA, memory, CPU cooler) during use, except XTU." That picture carries the responsibility for showing the motherboard if HW Monitor is insufficient. NOWHERE in the rules is there a call for the Mainboard CPU-Z tab -- only the CPU and Memory tabs. I have strong objection to someone making up another rule and not placing it on the rules page, especially when it is made up late in the competition. One thing I did not get from the above discussion is your authority. Are you a moderator? It is common knowledge that you have to show cpuz cpu,memory and mainboard tab when a competition is restricted to certain brand and mainboard series. And yes, "hwbot staff" under my nick says I am a moderator. As stated before you could have contacted Christian Ney, you obviously did not do, and of 150 submissions for this contest you are only one! who did not include cpuz mainboard tab despite rules. You even got a personal heads up two weeks before competition ended and uploaded later results without cpuz mainboard tab again I guess there is no need to discuss this anymore Edited July 20, 2015 by websmile Quote
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