Nik Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 why not submit for the cup? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaRtA Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 68 degree load on "ambient" water my ass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ziken (BANNED) Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 hello nik, I succeeded has to do better before the end of the competition As I wanted not damaged my cpu I put more of 1.58v reel hi karta, i have ihs polished on two face rad 240 and 16 fans, the water was 10/12° Before of judged or criticized inform you about the method used is the voltages applied thanks !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GtiJason Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 Well, with your "Standard" Single Stage -(50C @ 325w), evap ihs under/over lapped/polished and Kryonaut or CooLabs Ultra an i7 6700k at 1.58v will hit positive temps around 30C with a good mount, just sayin' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ziken (BANNED) Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 full conductonaut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaRtA Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 (edited) Yeah nah bs. How about a video to show cooling proof? I know there is other guys running radiators mounted on air conditioners (chiller any day of the week) and those volts and speed I find so hard to believe. I want to see some of the "golden" CPUs in action and the rest of your loop. I think everyone does. We know how it goes and some of you people need to man up and provide video to everyone instead of hiding behind a keyboard because the mods can't investigate enough. Edited November 29, 2016 by KaRtA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ziken (BANNED) Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 https://youtu.be/JBK3H266xro Watercooling in functioning one hours before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtsurfer Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 Good work man. Add some more fans & you'll be able to do 5.5G. Here's an example of what you should be aiming for Many great men before you have used this special trick in the ambient comps, nothing new. Just time to make the trick public. Sent from my Nexus 5X using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators websmile Posted November 29, 2016 Administrators Share Posted November 29, 2016 And this is why "ambient" competitions are nonsense - single stage, maybe even a used cascade at 800 Euros is cheaper than dozens of fans plus radiators and all this stuff, a delta of less than 50 degrees at 1,6v on cpu and temps of 10 degrees without load show that the concept simply failed when hwbot writes "enthusiast league is defined by non exotic cooling solutions"- my unofficial opinion in private is league division and division in "ambient" and Xtreme comps makes no sense anymore, if ever. I saw watercooling loops at four digit euro prices used before this and I wonder what is the difference to cascade, or even worse, to tec cooling, chiller etc put at apprentice while cheaper and less efficient in the end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaRtA Posted November 29, 2016 Share Posted November 29, 2016 Looks like a cold Pale Ale pre-chilled in the reservoir. The 4 degree higher idle before the attempted second run? Just saying cause I'm still not buying it. So on a serious note, has anyone actually tried this (looking back to the mods @websmile) to see if there is a measurable effect to it. As far as I am aware, that OC3D video was a Troll video with no substance. Please prove me wrong. I don't have $260 for fans plus cabling to waste on shit like this to test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators websmile Posted November 29, 2016 Administrators Share Posted November 29, 2016 Fans or no fans, the highend expensive watercooling stuff makes things unreachable for 99,9% of normal enthusiast users, it kills the main purpose why we limit competitions to certain leagues. We wanted to rule out super binned hardware, super expensive cooling and exotic tricks to improve temps. When I see results over the last 2-3 years, we failed with this, because we got exactly this plus doubts all over the place, so it might be needed to open comps only limited by temps and cooling used to all or think about ways to get things even some way. Instead of xocers on LN2 we have xocers on "water" who have to fear no competition because we ruled out best ocers in the world due to cooling they normally use... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed.fastest Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 FYI i try my cpu on LN2 and only did 5.3ghz (about 1.5-1.6v) XTU and thats on -60 Celcius. On normal custom water 30 Celcius it did 4.9ghz 1.455v XTU. Maybe my skill is not as good as him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wraith Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 After watching that video of all those fans mounted to a radiator, correct me if i'm wrong,but how can the fans be making the air and or the water temperature into below zero temperatures, when as far as I know, you cannot go below room temperature without using some sort of sub zero cooling method like air conditioning etc? That video has to be fake, unless they have discovered a way of defying physics ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ziken (BANNED) Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 After watching that video of all those fans mounted to a radiator, correct me if i'm wrong,but how can the fans be making the air and or the water temperature into below zero temperatures, when as far as I know, you cannot go below room temperature without using some sort of sub zero cooling method like air conditioning etc? That video has to be fake, unless they have discovered a way of defying physics ??? it's possible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex@ro Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 No,you can't go below air temperature,even if you have fan the size of airplane engine lol ,if you believe otherwise get yourself a thermodynamic book and read. Even if you put 1000 fans,the fans move the air through the radiator.The water takes the heat from waterblock and moves it into radiator.The air generated by fans takes the heat from radiator blades. So if you have room temperature of 20 degrees the radiator will be cooled in ideal case to 20 degrees and the water will have 22-23 degrees because of the imperfect thermal transfer.The delta from idle to load depends on how many junctions you have ,for example direct die contact means one thermal junction,if you have standard IHS that means 2 thermal junctions,one between die and IHS and next one between IHS and waterblock. The more junctions the more losses you have. Tehnically your submission is valid only if you had 1 juntion,liquid metal between die and waterblock,great CPU and i mean really golden one with also low-leakage,excellent waterflow and excellent fans. Also 5 degrees ambient or maybe lower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wraith Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 it's possible No its not and the video you have posted a link too, even admits at the end of the video that it was all done in fun, just to see who would watch it and its fake. So your watercooling setup in your video, with your multiple fans to one 240mm radiator, is definitely not keeping your temps at 60 degrees at 5.25ghz, unless your ambient temperature is -20 degrees and you live in the Arctic!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed.fastest Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 This is my CPU with 30 Celcius Water Temp and 360mm thick radiator speed.fastest`s XTU score: 1744 marks with a Core i7 6700K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaRtA Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 This is my CPU with 30 Celcius Water Temp and 360mm thick radiatorspeed.fastest`s XTU score: 1744 marks with a Core i7 6700K But did you use golden super snake oil in your loop, with conductonaut and 40x3000RPM Corsair SP120 fans overvolted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GtiJason Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 But did you use golden super snake oil in your loop, with conductonaut and 40x3000RPM Corsair SP120 fans overvolted? Well he did say Conductonaut everywhere so maybe that's what's pumping through that rad. In other news, thanks to the descovery of fans providing sub ambient cooling and no deminishing returns when adding more, I'd like to start a new Team based on these principals. So pm me if you'd like to join... TEAM Nitrogen (N2, 78%), Oxygen (O2, 21%), Argon (A, 1%) and Carbon Dioxide (CO2, 0.04%) vs LN² Here's my setup Full Album: Inspiration to Join ! Team*Nitrogen (N2, 78%), Oxygen (O2, 21%), Argon (A, 1%) and Carbon Dioxide (CO2, 0.04%) - Album on Imgur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed.fastest Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 For me something that clearly wrong in video above is your idle temp, 14 Celcius @ 1.58v is something wrong, but i never experience such low ambient temp maybe some experience people here can tell if that idle temp is possible on ambient @ 1.58v? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Alberino Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Cooling or league restricted competitions dont make sense anymore, they are always things like this... I think frequency restrictions are better and avoid all this problems... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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