Splave Posted June 25, 2020 Posted June 25, 2020 (edited) Let's spill some beans. Here is all I know about geekbench3 feel free to join in. 1. The best scoring versions for intel CPU's with 16 cores or less is 3.1.5 get it here https://www.dropbox.com/s/4q0xuvioq8opx30/Geekbench-3.1.5-WindowsSetup.exe?dl= (New version 3.4.3B3 here has potential. Need more testing. https://geekbench.s3.amazonaws.com/Geekbench-3.4.3b3-WindowsSetup.exe ) 2. Best scores are with no microcode bios on z490. You will see e-penis scores with microcode because its boosts the mem sub-score but the total score is around 300 points less at 5.3ghz on 10900k. 53600 with MC, 53900 without MC. 10k mem score doesn't matter when you are losing so much total score. Obviously not calling anyone out, have fun if you want to play mem score. It is fun for sure. 3. For intel HEDT make sure to disable Spectre and Meltdown when possible. (No need on AMD it actually scores worse when you mess with it for some reason.) 4. In most cases uses the newest version of windows 10 available. Every consecutive version of windows has incrementally increased my scores especially the AES tests scores. 5. Pros are changing their clocks during the run. DJ/LUA are difficult as well as DFFT on current gen intel, as well as raytrace on AMD so, dropping clocks during those sections can help you get much higher scores. Say for example 10900k I can run 7ghz for the entire run maxed out highest that will pass DJ/LUA, I can also run the first section of tests at 7.125ghz and the end even higher 7.2ghz+ For example start geek at 7.1ghz run to 13s drop to 7.0 for DJ/LUA wait for the 18s mark and clock back to 7.1ghz If you want even more performance the last 2 seconds are the memory tests which have no load on the cpu and pass very high 7.2 seems fine here. You will only be limited by your mem stability and the limit of bclk you can move in OS usually around 3 bclk. This also makes the "CPU mhz" field on ln2 subs irrelevant as they are changing during the test. Is it 7ghz because thats what I ran lua at? or is it 7.2ghz because I clocked the mem tests there for 2 seconds? Do I have special needs? Yes, I dont think so, and most definitely just to answer those for you. 6. 2x16gb at 4400 14-14 seems to be equivalent in score to 2x8gb 4850 14-14 and has less tendency to fail DJ/LUA. Will compare on ln2 this week all out and update. 7. Dont tune your mem for mem score, tune your mem for total score. You will find some timings that boost your mem score but drop your total. Keep that in mind when you are playing with subs. This is very apparent on Ryzen as its ability to train crazy timings is so easy but unfortunately they can be robbing from your total. 8. Most mainstream systems can get away with 1.7-2gb maxmem. Any less and you start to bug sub tests and IMO is a sign that the sub should be scrutinized using geek link comparison with a similar system. 9. On AMD Ryzen use the batfile from asus to boost your score. They say to start the bat file then run the test then run the default bat. I wont start an argument on this just sharing some secrets some people might not know. See Zen Perfboost : https://bit.ly/2kBs15c (After loading CineBench R15 or Geekbench3 bench then run the boost, just click defaults button after benching to prevent bsod) Extra Contributions>>> 3.4.3B3 seems to be the most consistent on Ryzen 3000 atm. Same for TRX40. Haven’t tried the rest yet. ~keeph8n Edited June 26, 2020 by Splave 7 13 1 Quote
SparkysAdventure Posted June 26, 2020 Posted June 26, 2020 Seems there is a new version of geek 3, scores similarly to 3.1.5 https://geekbench.s3.amazonaws.com/Geekbench-3.4.3b3-WindowsSetup.exe Haven't tested with 4800c14 yet but soon. 1 Quote
3urner Posted June 26, 2020 Posted June 26, 2020 That is a really kind act of yours! Thank you very much! 1 Quote
MetalRacer Posted June 26, 2020 Posted June 26, 2020 Great information for sure! Thanks for sharing the in depth knowledge. 1 Quote
keeph8n Posted June 26, 2020 Posted June 26, 2020 3.4.3B3 seems to be the most consistent on Ryzen 3000 atm. Same for TRX40. Haven’t tried the rest yet. 1 1 Quote
ironbrillopad Posted June 27, 2020 Posted June 27, 2020 I will test this as well, thanks for sharing! Quote
SparkysAdventure Posted June 27, 2020 Posted June 27, 2020 In my testing, 3.1.5 is still slightly better than 3.4.3b3. Quote
keeph8n Posted June 27, 2020 Posted June 27, 2020 25 minutes ago, Sparky's__Adventure said: In my testing, 3.1.5 is still slightly better than 3.4.3b3. Platform and OS please. Those make a ton of difference. Quote
unityofsaints Posted June 27, 2020 Posted June 27, 2020 On 6/25/2020 at 3:03 PM, Splave said: 4. In most cases uses the newest version of windows 10 available. Every consecutive version of windows has incrementally increased my scores especially the AES tests scores. Tested with Win 10 2004 yet? Quote
SparkysAdventure Posted June 27, 2020 Posted June 27, 2020 (edited) @keeph8n Z390 with 8700k and Windows 10 2004. @unityofsaints I tested it, I can confirm @Splave's findings with Windows versions. Edited June 27, 2020 by Sparky's__Adventure 1 Quote
keeph8n Posted June 27, 2020 Posted June 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Sparky's__Adventure said: @keeph8n Z390 with 8700k and Windows 10 2004. @unityofsaints I tested it, I can confirm @Splave's findings with Windows versions. So yeah, it looks like each individual platform will need to be tested for sure. z390, Z490, AM4, etc. just as we do for most anything anymore, bench version and OS will be key to a good score. 1 Quote
unityofsaints Posted June 27, 2020 Posted June 27, 2020 Ironic that the only bench that really needs Benchmate is on bad terms with the developers ? Quote
SparkysAdventure Posted June 27, 2020 Posted June 27, 2020 @unityofsaints can still use Benchmate 0.9.3 Quote
unityofsaints Posted June 28, 2020 Posted June 28, 2020 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Sparky's__Adventure said: @unityofsaints can still use Benchmate 0.9.3 I know, but overall the situation isn't ideal e.g. with Geekbench 5 completely banned from the rankings. Edited June 28, 2020 by unityofsaints 1 Quote
unityofsaints Posted June 28, 2020 Posted June 28, 2020 (edited) @Splave Did you ever test if Windows N gives gains vs. regular Win 10? Edited June 28, 2020 by unityofsaints 1 Quote
SparkysAdventure Posted August 3, 2020 Posted August 3, 2020 @Splave How did the 2x16gb testing go on ln2? Quote
Splave Posted August 4, 2020 Author Posted August 4, 2020 On 6/27/2020 at 8:56 PM, unityofsaints said: @Splave Did you ever test if Windows N gives gains vs. regular Win 10? windows N never been great for me 3 hours ago, Sparky's__Adventure said: @Splave How did the 2x16gb testing go on ln2? waiting for someone to beat me then I will 1 1 Quote
SparkysAdventure Posted August 4, 2020 Posted August 4, 2020 @Splave How about you give it a try with AMD? Maybe take the 3600xt or 3900xt records Quote
jfpoole Posted August 4, 2020 Posted August 4, 2020 This is fascinating. Thanks, @Splave, for taking the time to write this up. A couple of things that might be helpful: You can still download Geekbench 3.1.5 from our servers if you'd prefer an official link: https://geekbench.s3.amazonaws.com/Geekbench-3.1.5-WindowsSetup.exe Geekbench 3.4.3 is out of beta and is now the default download on the Geekbench 3 website: https://www.geekbench.com/geekbench3/download/ 3 2 Quote
keeph8n Posted August 4, 2020 Posted August 4, 2020 14 minutes ago, jfpoole said: This is fascinating. Thanks, @Splave, for taking the time to write this up. A couple of things that might be helpful: You can still download Geekbench 3.1.5 from our servers if you'd prefer an official link: https://geekbench.s3.amazonaws.com/Geekbench-3.1.5-WindowsSetup.exe Geekbench 3.4.3 is out of beta and is now the default download on the Geekbench 3 website: https://www.geekbench.com/geekbench3/download/ Thanks for the update @jfpoole Will run the new 3.4.3 non beta and see if any scoring differences. 1 Quote
SparkysAdventure Posted August 23, 2020 Posted August 23, 2020 8700k, daily but cleanish os, micron e-die daily settings. 3.4.3 non-beta beats 3.1.5 by an acceptable margin, tested 10 runs of each. Can post all the Geekbench files, memory settings, actual average scores if y'all actually care enough. Previous testing showed 3.1.5 consistently beating 3.4.3b3. I can try with proper OC mem settings soon. Quote
unityofsaints Posted December 1, 2020 Posted December 1, 2020 On 6/25/2020 at 5:03 AM, Splave said: 9. On AMD Ryzen use the batfile from asus to boost your score. They say to start the bat file then run the test then run the default bat. I wont start an argument on this just sharing some secrets some people might not know. See Zen Perfboost : https://bit.ly/2kBs15c (After loading CineBench R15 or Geekbench3 bench then run the boost, just click defaults button after benching to prevent bsod) Does anyone know if this is the same as the classic "performance bias" that's been baked into ASUS boards since Zen 1 or something else/better? Quote
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