BC00 Posted March 14, 2022 Posted March 14, 2022 (edited) Hi guys, Is anyone able to try newest 1203 beta BIOS on Strix B660I? As it carries statement "- Improve system compatibility for non-K CPU Looks like all ASUS's B660 MBs got this beta BIOS. ROG STRIX B660-I GAMING WIFI | ROG Strix | Gaming Motherboards｜ROG - Republic of Gamers｜ROG Global (asus.com) Edited March 14, 2022 by BC00 Quote
Broken APEX49 Posted March 15, 2022 Posted March 15, 2022 APEX is... The price is too high. Buying DDR5 will also cause financial ruin. Quote
MrPils Posted March 15, 2022 Posted March 15, 2022 7 hours ago, GTI-R said: APEX is... The price is too high. Buying DDR5 will also cause financial ruin. My Apex is clearly inferior to my z690i Unify for memory oc. I paid £350 for the Unify ITX, which is still high but much cheaper than the Apex. Seems to be large board to board quality variance with the Apex. There are some really good boards no doubt but with so much in the media and forums about Asus sending pre-binned boards out to people it makes sense why there's large amounts of trash boards in retail. You can bet those pre-bin failures go straight in a box and off to retail and not into recycling where they belong. Kingston Beast 6000mhz C40 is all Hynix as far as has been reported on the internet (you can check without opening, code ETMH on the sticker for hynix, ETMS for Samsung. This is like 3200C14 bin B-die, quality will vary but all will behave as Hynix and not the shitshow that is Samsung chips. This is the cheapest Hynix available here in the UK, you can find them on sale between £260 and £300. This is still not cheap, but you do get the arguably better memory oc board and a 2 x 16gb kit of Hynix for around the same price as the Apex alone. You lose PCIE slots and a ton of vcore phases, but for fun with non-K cpus you dont care much about that 1 Quote
tex_m Posted March 25, 2022 Posted March 25, 2022 (edited) Hello. Any idea if this board (Z690 UD DDR4 V2) supports bclk overclock for non-k 12th gen ? Edited March 25, 2022 by tex_m Quote
uninvitedguest Posted April 8, 2022 Posted April 8, 2022 On 3/14/2022 at 5:46 PM, BC00 said: Hi guys, Is anyone able to try newest 1203 beta BIOS on Strix B660I? As it carries statement "- Improve system compatibility for non-K CPU Looks like all ASUS's B660 MBs got this beta BIOS. ROG STRIX B660-I GAMING WIFI | ROG Strix | Gaming Motherboards｜ROG - Republic of Gamers｜ROG Global (asus.com) I would love to know this as well. If true, it would make it the second ITX board to support non-k OC, and a much cheaper one by far. Quote
ninjabeans Posted May 7, 2022 Posted May 7, 2022 Just want to chime in about the B660I. I have this in my ITX build. With 12700K Firmware 1003 (same firmware as DeBauer video) Firmware 1401 (latest as of right now) Neither will show the manual mode under Ai Overclock drop down. Always Auto, XMP I and XMP II. Never a manual so BCLK setting never shows. This is true even on my K-Chip. The board is excellent otherwise, and just remember to disabled all PCIE settings to avoid the WHEA 17 errors. Other than that it's been a great board, just no BCLK overclocking on either K or non K chip to be expected. Since I'm on an ITX build, Im going the other way. All core 4.7P 3.6E is the max the board will allow manually, but Im running stable at 1.21Vcore and it's super quiet and cool. I believe I can keep dropping the Vcore further. Quote
Broken APEX49 Posted May 7, 2022 Posted May 7, 2022 I need a board that has a BIOS that can OC both 12900KS and 12100 MEG Z690I UNIFY is one of the candidates but the bios information is complicated and I don't understand it C0 stepping or CPU can't be sorted, right? Quote
Broken APEX49 Posted May 8, 2022 Posted May 8, 2022 ROG STRIX B660-G GAMING WIFI ROG STRIX B660-F GAMING WIFI Which do you recommend? I am planning to use 12400F CPU Quote
MrPils Posted May 11, 2022 Posted May 11, 2022 (edited) On 5/7/2022 at 4:31 AM, GTI-R said: I need a board that has a BIOS that can OC both 12900KS and 12100 MEG Z690I UNIFY is one of the candidates but the bios information is complicated and I don't understand it C0 stepping or CPU can't be sorted, right? CO is fine, as far as Im aware though the bios I modded and posted earlier in this thread is the only one available. In terms of limitations, comparing to the Apex the Unify ITX isnt as good with per core overclocking, im around 100mhz lower than I was on the Apex. I suspect this is the Apex being good rather than the Unify ITX being "bad". Memory OC is ridiculously easy. My rev 1.1 board struggles with 1T but 2T is ridiculously easy. I can't get 7k stable, but with locked vccsa that's not a surprise. 6950mhz at stock cpu is stable, 6900mhz at full cpu oc. My current stable 6900 daily (ignore tertiaries, screenshot was during tuning) and my 6950mhz 3dmark settings are attached - apologies for the resolution you'll have to open them in a new tab and zoom. Edited May 11, 2022 by MrPils 1 Quote
Papusan Posted May 29, 2022 Posted May 29, 2022 MSI Brings BCLK OC, PCIe 5.0 To Intel B660 DDR4 Motherboard 1 Quote
Darius40e10 Posted June 1, 2022 Posted June 1, 2022 On 5/29/2022 at 8:08 AM, Papusan said: MSI Brings BCLK OC, PCIe 5.0 To Intel B660 DDR4 Motherboard Now I just need a mini itx with it. 1 1 Quote
Broken APEX49 Posted June 8, 2022 Posted June 8, 2022 My ROG STRIX B660-G GAMING WIFI is experiencing noise after overclocking 12400F by about 5.3G! Quote
darkclow Posted June 12, 2022 Posted June 12, 2022 On 6/8/2022 at 11:18 AM, GTI-R said: My ROG STRIX B660-G GAMING WIFI is experiencing noise after overclocking 12400F by about 5.3G! May I ask about your settings? Especially what RAM are you using and the timing/voltage. Quote
literallybot Posted June 16, 2022 Posted June 16, 2022 Hello everyone, Any info about ASROCK B660M PG Riptide? Look like it has external generator, PCI 4.0, DDR4 support Quote
TASOS Posted June 19, 2022 Posted June 19, 2022 On 6/16/2022 at 4:24 PM, literallybot said: Hello everyone, Any info about ASROCK B660M PG Riptide? Look like it has external generator, PCI 4.0, DDR4 support https://www.breakinglatest.news/health/dark-tide-asrock-b660m-pg-riptide-motherboard-out-of-the-box-15-phase-power-supply-non-k-overclocking/ Quote
Talon2013 Posted July 6, 2022 Posted July 6, 2022 Picked up an Asrock Z690 Velocita PG open box I updated to newest BIOS with a 12400 and sure enough Non-K BCLK option is right there at the top for CPU options unfortunately something is whack with this new BIOS and any changes to BCLK or changing this option to enabled causes post code 7F or 65 and no post. I tried the second newest BIOS and everything works 100%. Non-K BCLK working flawless with my 12400. Asrock Z690 Velocita PG has non-K BCLK confirmed. Probably the cheapest D5 Z690 board that supports Non-K OC. Quote
Crew Leeghoofd Posted July 6, 2022 Crew Posted July 6, 2022 3 hours ago, Talon2013 said: Picked up an Asrock Z690 Velocita PG open box I updated to newest BIOS with a 12400 and sure enough Non-K BCLK option is right there at the top for CPU options unfortunately something is whack with this new BIOS and any changes to BCLK or changing this option to enabled causes post code 7F or 65 and no post. I tried the second newest BIOS and everything works 100%. Non-K BCLK working flawless with my 12400. Asrock Z690 Velocita PG has non-K BCLK confirmed. Probably the cheapest D5 Z690 board that supports Non-K OC. Which bios does work and which doesn't Quote
Talon2013 Posted July 6, 2022 Posted July 6, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, Leeghoofd said: Which bios does work and which doesn't BIOS 10.02 is confirmed working. It also brings AVX-512 support back on those CPUs that still have it via a Microcode switch upon selection of AVX-512. The microcode switch is all automatic, pretty neat feature from Asrock, wish my Hero board did this. https://ibb.co/304QxnL BIOS 11.01 (which supports Intel next gen) seems to be bugged and is not working even though the options are all still there. I could try and reflash to make sure, but I'm happy with 10.02. ** BIOS 3.03, 4.02, 5.02 (out of box) all DO NOT WORK. If you attempt to select a BCLK higher than 102.7 it automatically reverts to 102.7. Also the Non-K BCLK option is not in the BIOS. BIOS version between 5.02 and 10.02 might work, I just never tested them as I decided to go straight to the newest versions. Edited July 6, 2022 by Talon2013 Added Photo Quote
Johnny93bg Posted July 17, 2022 Posted July 17, 2022 (edited) On 1/16/2022 at 9:46 PM, mirco69 said: Most relevant information in the Der8auer videos on youtube, that inspired me to create this topic: Video 1 (https://youtu.be/8diXDeTDCbo): Option "Unlock BCLK OC" in "Extreme Tweaker\Tweaker's Paradise" in ASUS bioses. Boards WITH non-K OC support (with the 0811 bios versions): ASUS maximus Z690 hero ASUS maximus Z690 apex Boards WITHOUT non-K OC support (at the time the video was released; with the tested bios versions): ASUS B660M Plus D4 ASUS strix Z690i gaming wifi Video 2 (https://youtu.be/jo9o1RZQtI0): ambient BCLK limit seems to be at around 160 Boards\Bioses WITH non-K OC support, according to members or submissions: MSI Z690I Unify ( bioses: **E7D29IMS.111; **E7D29IMS.122; **E7D29IMS.124 (modded, H0 stepping only) ) MSI Z690 Unify X ( bioses: A22TC, A22TH (C for C0 stepping, H for H0 stepping) ) ASUS maximus Z690 formula ( bios: 0811 ) ASUS maximus Z690 extreme ( bios: 0811 ) ASUS maximus Z690 hero ( bioses: 0811; 1003 ) ASUS maximus Z690 apex ( bioses: 0811; 0072; 0090; 1304 ) ASUS STRIX B660 G gaming wifi ( bios: 1003; 1203 ) ASUS STRIX B660 F gaming wifi ( bios: 1003 ) Gigabyte Z690 Aorus Tachyon ( bios: *X2i, X3b, X3c) ASRock z690 Aqua OC ( bios: 4.05.BC10 ) EVGA Z690 Dark (bios: 1.07) ... Further information (chronological): "cpu did 5.2 ambient / 155 bclk limit" (source: noizemaker; https://hwbot.org/submission/4909065_noizemaker_y_cruncher___pi_1b_core_i3_12300_33sec_373ms) bclk OC with bios "0046" on Z690 Apex (source: https://hwbot.org/submission/4910036_kikoone31_hwbot_x265_benchmark___4k_core_i3_12100f_14.605_fps) bclk OC with bios "0072" on Z690 Apex (source: https://hwbot.org/submission/4909859_noizemaker_hwbot_x265_benchmark___4k_core_i3_12300_14.596_fps) * Gigabyte Z690 Tachyon bios X2i got "removed because of some bugs" from the Tachyon forum topic (source: https://community.hwbot.org/topic/210084-gigabyte-z690-tachyon/) bclk OC with bios "X2j" on Gigabyte Z690 Aorus Tachyon (source: https://hwbot.org/submission/4919785_hicookie_geekbench3___multi_core_pentium_gold_g7400_21051_points) bclk OC with bios "X2m" on Gigabyte Z690 Aorus Tachyon (source: https://hwbot.org/submission/4920254_sergmann_geekbench3___multi_core_core_i3_12300_38314_points) ** @Birilio: "I would like to add the two first bios for the z690i unify aren't working, v111 and v122. Retail v124 bios isn't working either, only the modded v124 from skullbringer is bclk oc capable for H0 chips only." bclk OC with bios "0090" on Z690 Apex (source: https://hwbot.org/submission/4926658_triox.sgi_gpupi_for_cpu___1b_core_i3_12100f_2min_25sec_67ms) bclk OC with bios "X3b" on Gigabyte Z690 Aorus Tachyon (source: https://hwbot.org/submission/4928684_sergmann_gpupi_for_cpu___1b_pentium_gold_g7400_4min_42sec_506ms) bclk OC with bios "X3c" on Gigabyte Z690 Aorus Tachyon (source: https://hwbot.org/submission/4948397_sergmann_hwbot_x265_benchmark___4k_pentium_gold_g7400t_7.874_fps) bclk OC with bios "9902" on Z690 Apex (source: https://hwbot.org/submission/4948577_zarok77_cinebench___r20_pentium_gold_g7400_2368_cb) bclk OC with bios "4.05.BC14" on z690 Aqua OC (source: https://hwbot.org/submission/4951945_noliso_y_cruncher___pi_1b_pentium_gold_g7400_1min_6sec_29ms) bclk OC with bios "1.07" on Z690 Dark (source: https://hwbot.org/submission/4952914_k0obies_hwbot_x265_benchmark___4k_pentium_gold_g7400_7.284_fps) bclk OC with bios "1304" on Z690 Apex (source: https://hwbot.org/submission/4954331_safedisk_geekbench3___multi_core_core_i3_12300_38779_points) bclk OC with bios "1203" on ASUS B660-G Gaming (source: https://hwbot.org/submission/4958167_jurin1388_gpupi_for_cpu___1b_pentium_gold_g7400_5min_19sec_48ms) thx to @Leeghoofdfor providing download links and help with editing ASROCK B660M PG RIPTIDE - Confirmed non K 12th gen OC capabilities. Out on Asian markets, not sure about Western https://youtu.be/nHgl8MKkJ7w https://www.asrock.com/MB/Intel/B660M PG Riptide/index.asp#Specification MSI MAG B660M MORTAR MAX WIFI DDR4 - Confirmed non K 12th gen OC capabilities by Hardware Unboxed and MSI. Soon to be released. https://youtu.be/p1G6V6o08_Q https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/MAG-B660M-MORTAR-MAX-WIFI-DDR4 Edited July 17, 2022 by Johnny93bg typo Quote
Talon2013 Posted July 17, 2022 Posted July 17, 2022 18 hours ago, Johnny93bg said: ASROCK B660M PG RIPTIDE - Confirmed non K 12th gen OC capabilities. Out on Asian markets, not sure about Western https://youtu.be/nHgl8MKkJ7w https://www.asrock.com/MB/Intel/B660M PG Riptide/index.asp#Specification MSI MAG B660M MORTAR MAX WIFI DDR4 - Confirmed non K 12th gen OC capabilities by Hardware Unboxed and MSI. Soon to be released. https://youtu.be/p1G6V6o08_Q https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/MAG-B660M-MORTAR-MAX-WIFI-DDR4 I got my Asrock B660 Riptide a few days ago in the US. Purchased on AliExpress. Non-K BCLK overclock works great. 2 Quote
Johnny93bg Posted July 18, 2022 Posted July 18, 2022 12 hours ago, Talon2013 said: I got my Asrock B660 Riptide a few days ago in the US. Purchased on AliExpress. Non-K BCLK overclock works great. Nooooice! 1 Quote
L0wpull Posted July 28, 2022 Posted July 28, 2022 If anyone spots an ITX 660 ddr4 with clockgen please do post.. holy grail.. should I fail to find one, are there any 690 ddr4 itx clockgen boards? Quote
Broken APEX49 Posted August 10, 2022 Posted August 10, 2022 someone Do you know the latest BIOS for MEG Z690I UNIFY? I own a 12400F. Quote
immortaldoesdev Posted August 19, 2022 Posted August 19, 2022 I do have an option for BCLK frequency on my asus tuf gaming z690 plus d4 motherboard. But when I alter the values, the P core and E core freq actually decreases. Any idea why? and how to make it so that I can run my P cores on almost 4.8 ghz atleast (rn its at 4.4 ghz) Quote
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