Scammed by alex@ro

[kicsipapucs]

Hello all.

 

I purchased an EVGA Z690 DARK from alexro from romania earlier this year for 300€. It was advertised as good, working, no damage was stated in the ad.

The board has arrived in a physically damaged state, some SMD components torn from behind the chipset, sadly some with pads and traces included (it was NOT a shipping damage, the box it came in looked perfect, also the missing components were NOT inside the box or antistatic bag anywhere to be found).

I let the seller know about the issue 4 minutes after getting the package from the courier. His only reply was "lol I didn't see that haha".

I found the response weird, but I didn't wanna whine, so I rather waited (this was a mistake on my side, I agree) till I was able to save up money to buy myself some CPUs.
Some time later a CPU came, but the motherboard is super toast, doesn't even turn on, cannot even get it to 00. Bios flashback is not working either (my CPU works in another board).

 

I contacted him again but he instantly gave me an attitude, hostile, arrogant behavior from the getgo. Telling me I was mentally ill for not trying the motherboard for multiple months since purchasing. Told him I had financial reasons and also it does not make it my fault that the board is damaged just because I took *more time than he thinks is acceptable* to test it, he was well aware of the damage from the beginning, and I asked him to help me out in the situation. His response was "how about you get the fvck out, does that sound like help?" and go ask Vince (kp) for SMD values and try to repair the board myself.
He later called me little shit, retarded, etc. Told me I totally deserve situations like this and when I said I'd rather return the board and not get scammed, he told me he never scammed anyone including me but never agreed for a refund, partial refund, return or anything.

I paid by PayPal F&F so opening a case is not an option there. A friend from the NL measured his Z690 Dark and I got the SMDs replaced that still had pads in place, but it made no change, board didn't come back to life.

 

At this point I think I can safely say he scammed me and the way he dares to talk to people even on its own is something only a sick, cruel selfish person would do.
Hardly recommend everyone never to conduct any business with the person. I heard lots of stories of him being rude and arrogant, but never actually scamming someone with a dead product. Also I heard multiple stories where he delivered and the product was as described, good overall deal, but sadly that also doesn't help me not lose my money and a motherboard and get verbally abused by the seller.

Edited September 15, 2023 by kicsipapucs

[Master Floppa]

sorry to hear that dude, hopefully some pressure from the community can get him to maybe change his mind ?

[previousslayer]

I might've recently gotten scammed myself with F&F on German classifieds as there was an influx of ads using the exact same photos and I bought from one before seeing another with lower res pics... only to find the supposed original on Ebay auctions next day. It's a curse when you run into someone untrustworthy.

[SparkysAdventure]

Brutal, that's a pretty big loss. Would say hope this can be worked out between y'all two, but I think it's past just that now

[spit051261]

Not good ?

Always safer buying from someone who has been here a while a has a lot to lose by doing dodgy things ?

Edited September 15, 2023 by spit051261

[filmbot]

1 hour ago, spit051261 said:

Not good ?

Always safer buying from someone who has been here a while a has a lot to lose by doing dodgy things ?

Alex has been around for quite sometime.

[spit051261]

That is definitely not good then.

Hopefully it's just a simple mistake .

[Fasttrack]

I will put it very blantly, since I am here 13 years ( with two accounts ) and I know Alex first hand as very few do.

I do not believe the OP.

In a period of 8 years I had transactions with Alex worth over 8.000 Euros.

I always received more than I expected, always in time, always as described and very well packaged.

This long business relationship evolved to long technical discussions with Alex actually spending hundreds of hours ( without any obligation ), to teach me.

Alex was a very straight forward person in all aspects, maybe more than needed.

A huge asset in HWBOT, decided to retire as hundreds of other notorious members have for their own reasons.

Alex was for a long time one of Asus testers, together with Dancop, Shamino, Frediyama, der8auer and more.

NOW, the OP suggests that Alex robed him of 300 euros, because I know from his last listing here what items were for sale.

NO WAY.

Unless Alex has gone nuts, something else is in the cards and the OP is not stating the full truth. 

[kicsipapucs]

If you are not believing me, ask your friend for unmodified complete chat screenshots. I haven't changed any information about any part of what has happened (time frame, communication, informations, etc), I even realized and accepted my own mistakes. Go see for yourself instead of these "I think"s. And as I have already stated in the original post, I know of his multiple tens of thousands € worth of transactions with positive outcome, it was not news, you just apparently ignored most of what I wrote. But that fact (and also the nice irrelevant political bs about what a good man, a hero bencher alexro is/was) doesn't make my story a lie, or the situation that has happened to me unhappened or any different!

This "I know him and idk you, he has always been nice with me and I spent way more money on him while OP spent less money than I did, therefore he must be the wrong here and only my experience and words matter" approach appearing is something I totally expected in advance when I uploaded my post, typical subjective skewed reasoning. I'd appreciate you not shifting more blame on me than what really was my fault in this equation or trying to discredit me just because you bought someone's "no obligations" helpfulness and integrity throughout the years and he never screwed you over so no other outcome is possible.
 

On 9/18/2023 at 9:49 AM, Fasttrack said:

I will put it very blantly, since I am here 13 years ( with two accounts ) and I know Alex first hand as very few do.

I do not believe the OP.

In a period of 8 years I had transactions with Alex worth over 8.000 Euros.

I always received more than I expected, always in time, always as described and very well packaged.

This long business relationship evolved to long technical discussions with Alex actually spending hundreds of hours ( without any obligation ), to teach me.

Alex was a very straight forward person in all aspects, maybe more than needed.

A huge asset in HWBOT, decided to retire as hundreds of other notorious members have for their own reasons.

Alex was for a long time one of Asus testers, together with Dancop, Shamino, Frediyama, der8auer and more.

NOW, the OP suggests that Alex robed him of 300 euros, because I know from his last listing here what items were for sale.

NO WAY.

Unless Alex has gone nuts, something else is in the cards and the OP is not stating the full truth. 

 

Edited September 25, 2023 by kicsipapucs
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[ale belo]

I have purchased from Alex many times over the last 7/8 years. I have never had problems with sales screens such as the benches made subsequently by me.

[ale belo]

I hope that with this post you can resolve the situation

[Mr.Scott]

Open forum posting ain't gonna resolve anything. Keep it amoungst yourselves.

[kicsipapucs]

On 9/25/2023 at 11:11 PM, Mr.Scott said:

Open forum posting ain't gonna resolve anything. Keep it amoungst yourselves.

I disagree with you on that. I didn't straight out post on here (I waited multiple weeks in fact), I tried solving the issue privately, I was met with arrogance and abusive behavior. Obviously no chance of a resolution anymore (well, right from the beginning really), so I just want people to see what a "huge respected core asset in hwbot" member is also capable of doing to smaller members of the community.

What open posting can resolve is to not have a false immaculate image of somebody with lots of positive but also trashy experience from others.

[TASOS]

The thread title is a bit harsh.

I have a different opinion about Alex.

But
You cant really be sure for anyone these days.
People change or make mistakes.

Why doesn't alex , writes his side of the story here ?