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Time to put this 'out there'. We intend to start this soon. Here's what we have so far. What do you think?

 

F1OC Proposal

 

It has become apparent that there is a new generation of elite overclockers who now have early access to cutting-edge hardware that has lifted them beyond the realms of traditional overclocking competition.

 

This idea has been discussed over the past several months but is now in a position to go ahead. It will be in addition to existing competitions and completely separate from them.

 

We have been speaking to the industry over the past few months already but at Computex I visited virtually every manufacture who would be directly involved and got overwhelming support for it.

 

The Overclocker intends to create a Formula One style overclocking competition.

 

The purpose of this competition would be to drive computer technology forward by pushing its limits through overclocking. It will also naturally promote overclockers. It should also capture the imagination of all tech enthusiasts (not just overclockers) who will clearly benefit from seeing which hardware provides the very best performance. The manufacturers we have spoken to have all instantly recognised the halo effect of this: the manufacturer of the best products will sell more lower-end products too. This has been true to automotive racing for years.

 

We can discuss it to death if we’re not careful so hopefully the following will be clear, concise and not require major tweaking. This competition should start at the beginning of August.

 

1) For season one, there will be no limits whatsoever. Any limits that need implementing in future seasons will be reactionary to problems that may have occurred in previous seasons. One such example would be if the field finished in the exact order of processor power... we’d need to limit GHz the following season.

 

2) There will be two groups of teams: manufacturers and guest teams. For season 1 all teams will be invitational only. Manufacturer’s teams will be safe from relegation. However, the three, lowest-performing guest teams will be relegated. They will be replaced by the best three teams in an open qualifying competition. The relegated teams can compete in this.

 

3) At the beginning of each month an overclocking task will be set. Overclocking scores (with the usual validations) must be submitted by the end of the month according to the International Date Line. HWBot will hopefully manage this. We’re discussing the details.

 

4) The overclocking tasks used will be highly varied in order to cover as much hardware as possible and test the all-round skill of the overclockers.

 

5) The initial guest teams selected are done so according to perceived skill and influence on global overclocking. We naturally can’t include everyone and top overclockers will naturally be left out. The intention is that after three seasons we have a highly-competitive field which genuinely reflects the best of the best in terms of hardware and overclockers.

 

6) All kit used must be on sale by the beginning of the month of the task. If another team wants to buy it, it must be available. We do not want specially-manufactured components which have been built purely to win a race... unless it’s fully available to the public.

 

7) The first season will run for five months (with five tasks) and will start at the beginning of August.

 

 

 

Benchmarks

 

The first five benchmarks will be...

 

SuperPi 32M

SuperPi 8M (on an AMD platform)

3DMark Vantage

3DMark 06 on motherboard integrated graphics

Highest FSB

 

 

Season 1 Teams

 

Most of these have been agreed already. The limit is 14 teams to avoid lists getting too unwieldy. There are obviously going to be good people left out – contact The Overclocker or a team leader to claim an empty spot at one of the teams if you’re interested. This is purely invitational to avoid griping about who should be involved. Everyone can be involved down the line. Just not yet. If you want to fill vacancies in any of the below teams let us know quick!

 

Manufacturer Teams

Team Asus – Kinc – TBC

Team Gigabyte – Hicookie – TBC

Team EVGA – k|ngp|n – Shamino

Team Biostar – pt1t – Bobelmagnifique

Team DFI – Andre Yang – TBC

Team MSI – Miahallen – TBC

 

Guest Teams

Team Australia – dinos22 – Youngpro

Team USA – TBC – TBC

Team Greece – hipro5 – TBC

Team Finland – Sampsa – SF3D

Team Tom’s Hardware – Kabauterman – loopy83

Team China – TBC – TBC

Team Indonesia – Benny – Ekky

Team Russia – NeoForce - DeDal

 

 

Sponsorship

 

Each team is free to organise its own sponsorship. At present Corsair and Kingston are prepared to supply top-quality RAM to anyone that needs it. Power Supplies have also been promised by Antec, Corsair and Cooler Master. Galaxy is happy to supply graphics cards. All motherboard makers who make graphics cards should also help out. Contact Nick at the overclocker if you want to be put in touch with these people. We actively encourage competitors to get money for sponsoring their teams. For season two we should be able to provide agents for helping with this.

Edited by The_Overclocker

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sounds like fun

 

i have one concern tho

 

the guest teams should have been taken from the Hwbot top 10 teams

 

as this is being run thro the bot it would make sense that teams from here take part

 

and have earned there place by qualifying thro being in the top ten

 

 

 

5) The initial guest teams selected are done so according to perceived skill and influence on global overclocking. We naturally can’t include everyone and top overclockers will naturally be left out. The intention is that after three seasons we have a highly-competitive field which genuinely reflects the best of the best in terms of hardware and overclockers.

 

there is no need for percived anything imo

 

if the teams are taken from the hwbot top ten teams

 

 

1. +1 +1 16102.90 Taiwan Team OCX

2. -1 -1 15575.60 Greece H.O.T. (Hellas O/C Team)

3. 12083.60 unknown Team MXS ModLabs.net

4. 12002.50 Russian Federation Russian Overs-Overclockers.ru

5. 11383.00 United Kingdom Bench Tec UK

6. 10513.50 France JMax-Hardware

7. 10234.20 Germany AwardFabrik

8. 10005.10 United States XtremeSystems

9. +2 +2 7641.40 Australia i4memory.com

10. 7304.90 Poland United Team of Poland

 

 

 

 

i would also add that having guest teams that do not have to qualify would undermine the hole point of the competition and would lead to accusations that overclocker mag is just putting in teams they like, there friends or even worse companies or websites that pay you to enter

 

and would remove any impartiality on the part of the overclocker magazine which would be a shame as one of your stated goals at the beginning was to remain impartial

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Can team members be replaced mid-season if they arent performing or cant devote the necessary time due to unexpected family problems etc?

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Hi mate. Team UK was a heated source of discussion. The simple reason it wasn't included for the first season was because all teams needed to have a BIG following for season 1. This comp is for all tech enthusiasts, not just overclockers.

 

The line had to be drawn somewhere and that was it.. we need full industry support for this. Having been at Computex it's clear which countries are being focussed on for overclocking. You know above all that extreme overclocking in the UK is not a patch on other countries - purely in terms of popularity.

 

It's certainly not the case that The Overclocker alone has chosen this... much has been discussed at recent global tournaments. We're just leading the charge.

 

We've certainly nothing against the UK - I'm English dangit! - however, I was talked out of having a UK team by the industry and they're the ones supporting this.

 

I can't see any favouritism in who we've chosen. Can you? There has to be a limit.

 

This is very very separate from existing HWBot competitions. It's designed to be much much MUCH more commercial in an effort to capture the general tech enthusiasts' imaginations - which hasn't nearly happened yet.

 

You're fully welcome to join in season two. But for this to get off the ground, hard decisions had to be made and many good mates have been left out. We simply can't have loads of teams because it becomes inaccessible and tricky to follow.

 

Remember, season 1 is only 5 months long and is a test ground. Season 2 will be much longer and should involve a lot of commercialisation - sponsorship, prize money etc.

 

I hope you understand.

 

EDIT>> Actually, Baz, I reckon using straight HWBot teams would seriously diminish the existing HWBot competitions. And that's the last thing anyone wants to do. Also, I know Miahallen was wanting to go for Team USA also. Perhaps you guys could go Team MSI??? Have a word with him. MSI is much more popular in Europe/UK than other territories.

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Can team members be replaced mid-season if they arent performing or cant devote the necessary time due to unexpected family problems etc?

 

I don't think we'll have a choice. It will be Formula 1 style rules on that though. We're trying to get in as many big names as possible at the mo.

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To be quite honest the fact that we are top 5 team, its an insult to be left out? in F1 you qualify to have the privelidge. from what you have said overclocker the uk will be excluded. btw who is team uk? we are Benchtecuk.

 

Sacha35 is 6th Global, surely He should have a place??

 

The tide seems to be against us at every angle. is the overclocker going to allow itself to be a puppet by the manufacturers?

and be dictated to as to who should be entered, from what you have said the UK will be excluded in the future too. whats with that?

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so this is just a way of the overclocker making money from our sport?

 

i would not give a damn about manufactures teams as they can do what they like and are only showing off there products

 

but who the hell gave you the right to say who are the best overclockers in the world benchtec are 5th in the world

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Looks like this will be very good, can I ask who will be validating the results for this compo, also have we looked into if some validating software can be implemented in the O/S to make sure everything is good run in line with all the competition rules so no cheating can be done, because if it is going to be run like a top rank then we need to make sure everyone is complying with all the rules.

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The line had to be drawn somewhere and that was it.. we need full industry support for this. Having been at Computex it's clear which countries are being focussed on for overclocking. You know above all that extreme overclocking in the UK is not a patch on other countries - purely in terms of popularity.

 

The population:

 

Australia: 21,809,733

USA: 306,649,000

Greece: 11,262,500

Finland: 5,336,330

Tom’s Hardware ?

China: 1,331,115,200

Indonesia: 230,330,000

Russia: 141,812,991

 

 

Where we in the Uk only have a population of 61,708,895, with one of the biggest import export businesses in the world

 

If we take a good look at the statistics then it clearly shows we in the UK have a good following take a look at this list from HWbot it shows the UK have 366 overclockers compared to AUS 221

 

I can see no reason to leave the UK out of this other than who's face fits, as we can clearly see by the national population figures that the UK has far more people in it than a lot of the countries you have chosen.

 

If this is the case then I don't think the UK would want to be involved because it is a setup right from the beginning.

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The population:

 

Australia: 21,809,733

USA: 306,649,000

Greece: 11,262,500

Finland: 5,336,330

Tom’s Hardware ?

China: 1,331,115,200

Indonesia: 230,330,000

Russia: 141,812,991

 

 

Where we in the Uk only have a population of 61,708,895, with one of the biggest import export businesses in the world

 

If we take a good look at the statistics then it clearly shows we in the UK have a good following take a look at this list from HWbot it shows the UK have 366 overclockers compared to AUS 221

 

I can see no reason to leave the UK out of this other than who's face fits, as we can clearly see by the national population figures that the UK has far more people in it than a lot of the countries you have chosen.

 

If this is the case then I don't think the UK would want to be involved because it is a setup right from the beginning.

 

 

 

lol if this is a plan to piss off as many of the UKs benching community it will succeed

 

don't computer parts manufactures want to sell to the British

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I do question the guest team choices, but not out of explicit disrespect to any of them.

 

This isnt just because the UK isnt involved so "boo-hoo not fair" wheres Germany and France? Are the Greek and Finnish markets really bigger? (genuine question, im not sniping)

 

If you're focussing on the developed markets, isnt that just preaching to the converted?

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I do question the guest team choices, but not out of explicit disrespect to any of them.

 

This isnt just because the UK isnt involved so "boo-hoo not fair" wheres Germany and France? Are the Greek and Finnish markets really bigger? (genuine question, im not sniping)

 

If you're focussing on the developed markets, isnt that just preaching to the converted?

 

Spot on........ A child of five would understand this. Send someone to fetch a child of five.

-Groucho Marx-

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So, except for the UK team ... who else is missing in the list of invited overclockers?

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France, Germany, Spain, Japan and Italy all jump out

 

Theres major benchers in all those countries!

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This isnt just because the UK isnt involved so "boo-hoo not fair" wheres Germany and France? Are the Greek and Finnish markets really bigger? (genuine question, im not sniping)

 

It doesn't look like a matter of markets, more like matter of big names...;)

 

Germany is represented by Tom's Hardware, which is wrong, because benchbros are Hardwareluxx...

 

Netherlands, Belgium and many more...

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NONE of this is meant as a put-down to the country or websites:

 

Why is Germany represented by a specific forum/ website when all the others are simply flying under their Nations Flag?

 

Why arent you and Marc involved anywhere if its down to big names?

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As much as I'd like to see the Hwbot ranking as the one-and-only ranking for skill ... it's not. There are many big names missing in that top10 and not because they "suck @ oc".

 

I know many guys will be disappointed not to be included, but frankly they'll have to live with it. This F1 OC league is the first to be organised, so it's normal not everything will be 100% in order. Furthermore ... this is just a test season.

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So, except for the UK team ... who else is missing in the list of invited overclockers?

 

they should use the hwbot top 10/15 teams imo

 

or this is just a marketing exercise that is very badly conceived

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Why teams?

 

It's a characteristic of the Hwbot team league that one or two members do not define the greatness of the team: all people who are member of the team play a role in the ranking of the team. The team's points is a combination of high-end benchers (who take care of the global points) and low-end benchers (who take care of the hardware points).

 

This competition is about two-person teams and about global only. Hence, selecting people who either score high in the hwbot bencher's league OR have been proven to be excellent overclockers in the past is the most logical way to go. In the current list of overclockers, I see most of the selected overclockers are indeed part of one of the two groups; which doesn't mean that there are no other people who are in either of those groups.

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"It's a characteristic of the Hwbot team league that one or two members do not define the greatness of the team: all people who are member of the team play a role in the ranking of the team. The team's points is a combination of high-end benchers (who take care of the global points) and low-end benchers (who take care of the hardware points)."

 

Top10 teams at hwbot doesn't ONLY reflect awesomeness at benching.

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Must've mis-read.

 

The country rankings are possibly even less about measuring the skill of an individual. Remember: this is about selecting individuals, not teams.

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