Venom Posted February 23, 2008 Posted February 23, 2008 Sure, we need more moderators. IMO 71proste sholud get this status.
knopflerbruce Posted February 23, 2008 Posted February 23, 2008 manny - PcOverclock.net Teamonly 3dmarks..... 2001 not real score for this clocks (some videocards 64bit). benchmark was not run using default settings. no resolution on screen or no video info. sometimes he use omega driver and run not on default settings. http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=700529 http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=702827 http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=701138 http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=639119 http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=700899 http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=640591 http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=700880 http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=702176 2003 professional edition,no resolution on screen: http://www.hwbot.org/compare.do?resultId=702776 http://www.hwbot.org/compare.do?resultId=701141 http://www.hwbot.org/compare.do?resultId=702828 http://www.hwbot.org/compare.do?resultId=700900 http://www.hwbot.org/compare.do?resultId=689844 http://www.hwbot.org/compare.do?resultId=697095 http://www.hwbot.org/compare.do?resultId=700531 2005 professional edition,no resolution on screen: http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=700532 http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=703037 http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=700882 old version 3dmark: http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=657017 http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=600522 http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=698659 http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=697097 http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=640594 http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=690554 http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=657015 http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=641360 2006 professional edition,no resolution on screen: http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=700536 http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=698660 http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=700883 old version 3dmark: http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=690558 http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=697098 http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=640596 http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=602405 ban?!? First, why are Omega drivers illegal? They're tweaked for better performance AFAIK, which gives a better score in benchmarks. And why BAN?? WTH! Has this guy been told that his scores are not valid because of missing verification before? You can't ban people for that, anyway. I know that in some countries you chop people's hand off if they steal a loaf of bread, but this is no such place (I hope).
gradus Posted February 23, 2008 Posted February 23, 2008 He obviously ran it at the default settings, as he has the lowest HD3600 score... More proof is only required for HOF. He could reach the same result with the help of any videocard, I also can test 8800 and I will have the results from 10000 to 100000...then i submit results to all categories. Will it be ok? Such a result should be delete immediately. Where is moderation This is too much,people waste points because of wrong Results submitted,i have reported a lot of fake's,unreal scores-nothing fixed yet-what is going On????????how long should I wait-month a year?????-this is too much:mad::mad:pls do something!!!!!!!!! We need more moderators... I think people who reports many result can be new moderators (if they want). Sure, we need more moderators.IMO 71proste sholud get this status. +1 We need more moderatorS!!! not 1 moderator.... Only one Massman is doing something, I wonder where the others are?!? O polonos very strange man....I am not talking about Bwanasoft as the great part of the C.I.S. overclockers is waiting for explanation of his faked screens which we havent received yet, so to my mind this question should be considered in the forum... IMO 71proste sholud get this status. Its only you IMO, i don't think so. Gradus U'r right,some people should be banned,but nobody care I see Its true. Only bans can stop this mass of cheaters. ps I post many strange results from your team in this thread...many results! Think about it, explain it to your team and learn to do screens. First, why are Omega drivers illegal? They're tweaked for better performance AFAIK, which gives a better score in benchmarks. they are using banned tweaks cause its impossible to increase performance such good. And why BAN?? WTH! Has this guy been told that his scores are not valid because of missing verification before? You can't ban people for that, anyway. I know that in some countries you chop people's hand off if they steal a loaf of bread, but this is no such place (I hope). You think he don't know about resolution or somthing like that?)))
Lanc Posted February 23, 2008 Posted February 23, 2008 Its true. Only bans can stop this mass of cheaters. ps I post many strange results from your team in this thread...many results! Think about it, explain it to your team and learn to do screens. We have about 600+ ppl in our team. It is possible that some of that ppl can't do good screens
gradus Posted February 23, 2008 Posted February 23, 2008 We have about 600+ ppl in our team. It is possible that some of that ppl can't do good screens I understand this. as I say: explain it to your team and learn to do screens. you can learn ppl do good screens)...and bench on normal drivers
MaSell Posted February 23, 2008 Posted February 23, 2008 ...and bench on normal drivers Normal drivers can be easy modified and got same or better performance like "cheated" drivers, so I really dont understand why omega driver are cheated for you. I noticed that you also think, when somobody get better result than you and many other ppl is a cheater.
71proste Posted February 23, 2008 Posted February 23, 2008 I confirm,sorry Gradus but i think same as MaSell-sometimes I think U care only about your self not about true I will show some people how to make a screenshots-don't worry I will I can't believe it,still no moderators-FUNNY THING!!!!!!!!!!!
gradus Posted February 23, 2008 Posted February 23, 2008 Normal drivers can be easy modified and got same or better performance like "cheated" drivers, so I really dont understand why omega driver are cheated for you. not the same....and not the better for sure So may be we should allow testing 8800 or 3870x2 on GOZ or Omega? Why are these drivers considered to be cheaters by the futuremark and you consider them normal? If you can tweak standard ones for what you need these ones? I noticed that you also think, when somobody get better result than you and many other ppl is a cheater. lol) Usually I am accusing only real cheaters, if not- this topic would be greater. So you should take any result which I have posted and try to prove Im not right. And what we are talking about?! You even dont know how to move your result from 6600ddr to 6600ddr3... I confirm,sorry Gradus but i think same as MaSell-sometimes I think U care only about your self not about true Its only you IMHO. Though I would be surprised if 2 poles had different opinions. I will show some people how to make a screenshots-don't worry I will If you want to teach someone you should know how to do it yourself. All your screens are just like that)))): http://www.hwbot.org/signature.img?iid=84189&thumb=false http://www.hwbot.org/signature.img?iid=84078&thumb=false http://www.hwbot.org/signature.img?iid=84070&thumb=false http://www.hwbot.org/signature.img?iid=84072&thumb=false Look at normal screen, and learn: http://www.hwbot.org/signature.img?iid=65240&thumb=false
MaSell Posted February 23, 2008 Posted February 23, 2008 So may be we should allow testing 8800 or 3870x2 on GOZ or Omega? Where it's wrote thats using modded drivers like omega is NOT allowed? Link please You even dont know how to move your result from 6600ddr to 6600ddr3... Ok I will translate it to you one more time. Some time ago was one category, gf 6600. Some time ago bwanasoft split it for 6600 ddr1 and 6600 ddr3 and say he will move all scores to proper categories. Few are moved, included almost all of mine. When was all category I have 6-9points per score, so including sli results there was many points. Now I got only 2-3p per score in 6600 ddr3. Rest not moved ddr3 results are still in ddr1 category and users got MANY points for that. What I should move my last result from ddr1 to ddr3 category? I'm so bad cuz it's not right for me? It's hwbot crew fault, not mine.
gradus Posted February 23, 2008 Posted February 23, 2008 Where it's wrote thats using modded drivers like omega is NOT allowed? Link please Why are these drivers considered to be cheaters by the futuremark and you consider them normal? If you can tweak standard ones for what you need these ones? //////
MaSell Posted February 23, 2008 Posted February 23, 2008 We are @hwbot, not orb. BTW orb is very easy to cheat with whql drivers, wanna see submited 60k 3dm03 at gf6600 ?
gradus Posted February 23, 2008 Posted February 23, 2008 Ok I will translate it to you one more time. Some time ago was one category, gf 6600. Some time ago bwanasoft split it for 6600 ddr1 and 6600 ddr3 and say he will move all scores to proper categories. Few are moved, included almost all of mine. When was all category I have 6-9points per score, so including sli results there was many points. Now I got only 2-3p per score in 6600 ddr3. Rest not moved ddr3 results are still in ddr1 category and users got MANY points for that. What I should move my last result from ddr1 to ddr3 category? I'm so bad cuz it's not right for me? It's hwbot crew fault, not mine. Why are you here? What is your aim? Only to win points? I thought everyone here to show his skills and to take pleasure from overclocking. We are @hwbot, not orb. The rules of overclocking are the same everywhere, in futuremark and hwbot. BTW orb is very easy to cheat with whql drivers, wanna see submited 60k 3dm03 at gf6600 ? So we have found an expert in cheating....
OCPerformance Posted February 24, 2008 Posted February 24, 2008 http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=572852 http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/539/32m5tf7.jpg SuperPi -> 24min 0sec 910ms in the Pic you can see 24min 29sec 906 Please deactivate This score
S_A_V Posted February 24, 2008 Posted February 24, 2008 http://hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=702614 - bugged run (479.58 FPS in mother nature @ X1650XT)
George_o/c Posted February 24, 2008 Posted February 24, 2008 It will create a mess with all those lists, but it's not silly. The penalty for using agp cards is huge, as you can't use the hottest CPUs etc. WHich means that no-one with the agp version will be able to compete for the top scores. Which means that a new category MUST be created to make things fair:) It's been a while now, and I haven't seen a new category for X1650 pci-e I'd also like to add some pretty-messed up results : GeForce 6800 GS (NV40) AGP category http://www.hwbot.org/ResultBrowseByVideoCard.do?gpuModelId=911 ALL THE AM3 RESULTS POSTED IN THAT CATEGORY, ARE DONE WITH PCI-E 6800GS VGAs ... I don't know if all these guys are THAT confused, that they can not tell which is the PCI-E and which is the AGP category, but they are in the wrong category ! GeForce 6800 GS (NV42) AGP category http://www.hwbot.org/ResultBrowseByVideoCard.do?gpuModelId=1268 Well, there is only one guy benching this specific card ... But guess what ? He managed to bench two 6800GS AGP VGAs in SLi ... He's clearly mistaken, it's pretty damn obvious Maybe because, the NV42 core is both in AGP and in PCI-E 6800GSs Thus, could someone move them plz ? Thank you George
71proste Posted February 24, 2008 Posted February 24, 2008 not the same....and not the better for sure Its only you IMHO. Though I would be surprised if 2 poles had different opinions. always somethin to say,neverending story
Patagonian Posted February 24, 2008 Posted February 24, 2008 Where is moderation This is too much,people waste points because of wrong Results submitted,i have reported a lot of fake's,unreal scores-nothing fixed yet-what is going On????????how long should I wait-month a year?????-this is too much:mad::mad:pls do something!!!!!!!!! Gradus U'r right,some people should be banned,but nobody care I see Completely agree. We need more moderators to respond to complaints, it is amazing the number of false results there. Please try to fix it for the sake of hwbot Thank you http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=592336 wrong videocard http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=650027 wrong videocard http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=656051 wrong videocard http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=610412 wrong videocard http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=610436 82855 Integrated vga can´t run 3dmark05, no resolution, not screenshoot, not nothing http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=610418 82855 Integrated vga can´t run 3dmark06, no resolution, not screenshoot, not nothing
intouch Posted February 25, 2008 Posted February 25, 2008 http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=702446 -> Wrong videocard
Sebastian Posted February 25, 2008 Posted February 25, 2008 Would be sweet if someone took a look at the GeForce 6800 AGP category. This is a real mess around there. More than half of the results postet on the first page of each benchmark suite does noch match the category. Althoug there are 6800 vanilla AGP videocards to be benched many cards are GTs, Ultras and many PCIe-models. (I already took the time and reported most of the top-results some days ago, but nothing's going on there.) It's frustrating to see one's own AGP videocard loose against these mismatching setups.
knopflerbruce Posted February 25, 2008 Posted February 25, 2008 Would be sweet if someone took a look at the GeForce 6800 AGP category. This is a real mess around there. More than half of the results postet on the first page of each benchmark suite does noch match the category. Althoug there are 6800 vanilla AGP videocards to be benched many cards are GTs, Ultras and many PCIe-models. (I already took the time and reported most of the top-results some days ago, but nothing's going on there.) It's frustrating to see one's own AGP videocard loose against these mismatching setups. The whole geforce 6 category is a huge mess, because of the HUUUGE number of cards. Hopefully, this will be fixed someday, but it's ALOT of work I think! I have a feeling there may be needs for more result mods.
71proste Posted February 25, 2008 Posted February 25, 2008 Few sites of complain and nothing!!!!Still no answer:(
zavlakas Posted February 25, 2008 Posted February 25, 2008 http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=698366 http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=698365 wPrime 1.34......
Kean Posted February 25, 2008 Posted February 25, 2008 http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=665824 http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=613395 It's fake or program bug - go to 3rd and next places -> http://hwbot.org/searchResults.do?direction=&applicationId=14&teamId=0&userName=&gpu=&numberOfVideocards=0&cpu=Pentium+3+800Mhz+%28216%29&chipset=&model=&manufacturer=&minScore=&maxScore=&gpuId=0&cpuId=1015&chipsetId=0&modelId=0&manufacturerId=0&offset=0&displayAdvanced=false&countryId=0&dateFrom=&dateUntil=&minGpuCoreFreq=&maxGpuCoreFreq=&minGpuMemFreq=&maxGpuMemFreq=&minCpuFreq=&maxCpuFreq=&system=&minTotalPoints=
knopflerbruce Posted February 25, 2008 Posted February 25, 2008 The 2 scores were made using 2 CPUs, not one. Both valid.
71proste Posted February 25, 2008 Posted February 25, 2008 I'm not able to check any screens on Hwbot.org http://img114.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sdggggggggggggggggpt3.jpg I've check FF and IE-no difference hmm,realy don't know what is happening :)always when I check thumbnails:mad: Any ideas?
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