TerraRaptor Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 strong for hdd and video Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Scott Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 Calling BS. I have the board. Unacceptable submission reported. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OptyTrooper Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 Test it yourself Scotty. w/ a Tualatin. Don't let your prejudice get in the way of common sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Scott Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 No prejudice involved. Your ram speed may indeed be valid, but without any verification other than basically your word, the submission is unacceptable. Everybody else has to have proof, so do you. I'll check out your claim later. I do have a 1.4 Tualatin or two that will go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerraRaptor Posted August 5, 2012 Author Share Posted August 5, 2012 i think it is easily acceptable. I have unstable pifast submission at comparable clocks of agp/pci - http://hwbot.org/submission/2302936_terraraptor_pifast_pentium_3_celeron_600mhz_188.82_sec (limited to cpu mainly). However, that setup should have been really stable for mem valid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerraRaptor Posted August 5, 2012 Author Share Posted August 5, 2012 btw that pifast result is only achievable at high mem frequencies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Scott Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 TR, you don't need a CPU-Z validation for Pifast. You DO need one for ram speed in the comp. That was my only beef with the submission. If that rule is negated by the mods, I'll be sure to post up a much higher ram speed in the SDRAM class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massman Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 Can you try CPU-Z version 1.61.3 maybe? TR's board seems to detect the memory frequency correctly? http://hwbot.org/submission/2303096 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Ney Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 (edited) @Massman, not same divder The problem isnt cpuz version but cpuz itself. As far as I remember right cpuz doesnt report memory clock if divider is else than 1:1. SetFSB does report it right though. Had the same problem with all my i815 motherboards. Edited August 6, 2012 by Christian Ney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Scott Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 (edited) Zinggg! http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2443360 Fair enough Chris? Edited August 6, 2012 by Mr.Scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OptyTrooper Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Except your not running it @ 66/100/33 Scotty. It shows just fine if I run 133/133/33. I'll try 1.61.3 Massman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OptyTrooper Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 LOL that was my validation you linked may bad Scotty. Well anyway it won't pick up the freq. @ 66/100/33 like I said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Scott Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Your excuse doesn't even make any sense. Why would you run a divider on a ram clock contest? The object of a divider is to keep the ram in check while running a higher FSB, thus lowering the ram speed. If anything you should be running the 133's, just to keep the PCI bus closer to normal. Who do you think you're trying to BS Austin, some noob? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OptyTrooper Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 B/C my CPU was maxing out @ 2000MHz/190FSB there fore I set it on a 66/100 divider allowing more headroom for the processor. Think about it for a second. Just run a Tualatin @ 66/100 and you'll see what I'm talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OptyTrooper Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 (edited) @ Massman: same thing with CPU-Z 1.61.3 when 66/100 divider is set mem freq. is not picked up. http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2463841 same thing if any divider aside from 1:1 is set such as 133/100 here:http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=2463847 Edited August 6, 2012 by OptyTrooper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Scott Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 I've already heard and seen enough. Bottom line is you have no CPU-Z validation and the rules state that you need one. It's up to the staff. If this sub stays, you can bet I'll submit without a CPU-Z validation also. That's a fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knopflerbruce Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Massman made the stage, so he should come in and solve this. My personal opinion is that if it's possible to run 1:1 without a disadvantage in mem clocks, then that's a good solution to this problem. Too bad this platform is too old, even for me:p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OptyTrooper Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 (edited) I've already heard and seen enough. Bottom line is you have no CPU-Z validation and the rules state that you need one. It's up to the staff. If this sub stays, you can bet I'll submit without a CPU-Z validation also. That's a fact. Not like it would do you any good.. BTW I have a CPU-Z validation it just shows freq. unknown that's why i included SetFSB in the screenshot. To my way of thinking this is not different than using say ATI Tool to show GPU speeds when GPUZ does not pick it up. Which is acceptable and within the rules for 3D benches. Edited August 6, 2012 by OptyTrooper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerraRaptor Posted August 6, 2012 Author Share Posted August 6, 2012 All boards on i815 do not show mem frequency if using devider different to 100:100 or 133:133 - no matter if you use Tuwee or Coppermine. However setfsb detects memory frequency correctly. However, Opty, try to find 133MHz coppermine like 733/800/866 - all of them are able to reach 200 FSB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasparthe Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 So official ruling is that we don't need CPUz anymore? Just need to know if this sub is competition legal or not before submitting mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Scott Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 So official ruling is that we don't need CPUz anymore? Just need to know if this sub is competition legal or not before submitting mine. Still waiting too brah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OptyTrooper Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 What you fail to realize is SetFSB matches the FSB in both the CPU-Z screenshot AND validation so your random submissions without such still will likely not be allowed regardless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasparthe Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 Not trying to pick a fight or anything and I completely realize it matches, still no valid CPUz. You and I both were unable to submit Socket 7 scores on the P5A-B because of CPUz bugs with that board during the K6 stage of the November OC Challenge. Those submissions were deemed illegal despite all the proof you provided here. I want to make some subs without CPUz valids so I need to know if this is legal or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OptyTrooper Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 I understand and I remember that unfortunate incident. I am actually thinking about pulling my score to discourage others from cheating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Ney Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 Franck and I will try to debugg cpuz on s370 this week end. Will let you know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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