The Mutt Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 That's not bad!. :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calathea Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 ..for -60 Celsius lol. But thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schenckel bros Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 Looks too high score to 1155 Mhz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0lsty Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 I cant compare because my card run at pci-e x8 .. and it seems much slower .. maybe high ram clocks help? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riska Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 Mem MHz helps alot My team mate zzolio says that about 40-50mhz more mem is giving him about 500 points more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schenckel bros Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 (edited) Help a lot... but is TOO HIGH imo... There are a big difference... even I tryed driver 320.49 not helped Edited July 22, 2013 by Schenckel bros Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K404 Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 I think Calatheas score looks ok and Schenckel bros score is too low. Look at the leaderboard and the scores below you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schenckel bros Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 (edited) Not sure K404... there are no scores to compare... also, Tolsty score was made with a 3rd gen Intel that boosts GPU clocks.. instead 2nd gen Sandy Bridge. We can not compare different tecnoligies, because new gen push GPU clock many more than old technology... and the only score comes from Tolsty with 3770K. For example: http://img.hwbot.org/u29462/image_id_542089.png http://img.hwbot.org/u28198/image_id_752532.png Attempt than even with lower CPU clock, 3770K pushed VGA with similar clocks too higher than 2600K... its only one example. I looked for efficiency... new windows, new drivers...lots of scores increased step by step, and looks impossible to beat more than 33K with 1155/1300. That's the best efficiency I found to this clock... and I ran many times The reason I posted is only to check... maybe a bug... I don't know... but to me, looks for impossible score to this clocks. Looking forward to sandybags to know how the scores will work... maybe I am wrong... but according what I know about the card... this will be SO FAR the winner... even with this clocks Thanks for undertanding Edited July 22, 2013 by Schenckel bros Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzolio Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 score is OK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbuass Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 (edited) score is OK Maybe... If score is ok, we will see lots of Sandybagging with better scores, since I believe 1150 mhz is not enough. About the RAMS, I don't believe 50 Mhz more can provide 3000 GPU points, but I have no card to check or no scores to compare...further Calathea GPU is 70 Mhz lower. About 2nd and 3rd gen, intersting that 3rd can boost this way the CPU. Respect both opinions and scores, but still look forward other MOA scores to be sure. Good lucky to all. Edited July 22, 2013 by rbuass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzolio Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 Not sure K404... there are no scores to compare... also, Tolsty score was made with a 3rd gen Intel that boosts GPU clocks.. instead 2nd gen Sandy Bridge.We can not compare different tecnoligies, because new gen push GPU clock many more than old technology... and the only score comes from Tolsty with 3770K. For example: http://img.hwbot.org/u29462/image_id_542089.png http://img.hwbot.org/u28198/image_id_752532.png Attempt than even with lower CPU clock, 3770K pushed VGA with similar clocks too higher than 2600K... its only one example. I looked for efficiency... new windows, new drivers...lots of scores increased step by step, and looks impossible to beat more than 33K with 1155/1300. That's the best efficiency I found to this clock... and I ran many times The reason I posted is only to check... maybe a bug... I don't know... but to me, looks for impossible score to this clocks. Looking forward to sandybags to know how the scores will work... maybe I am wrong... but according what I know about the card... this will be SO FAR the winner... even with this clocks Thanks for undertanding use 320.18 driver 320.00 cant go high then 999MHz on core Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schenckel bros Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 use 320.18 driver 320.00 cant go high then 999MHz on core 320.18 and also 320.49 did not help. I ran 1215/1250 with 320.00 and works all right. No boost in ther drivers. Tks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K404 Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 PCI-E Gen 3 will have very nearly zero effect on the score. Please also look at these scores: http://hwbot.org/submission/2377088_alibabar_3dmark_vantage___performance_geforce_gtx_560_ti_448_31607_marks Only 180 points behind you, with over 200MHz less! on the core and 75MHz less on the GDDR....(not even using drivers that allow >1GHz core) This one: http://hwbot.org/submission/2258875_rkinslo_3dmark_vantage___performance_geforce_gtx_560_ti_448_30375_marks Comparing is a little more difficult because of the CPU speed but look at the GPU MHz. You have a 30% advantage in core speed and15% in GDDR clocks, but only 10% higher GPU score. This score does not have LOD either. http://hwbot.org/submission/2253233_cowgut_3dmark_vantage___performance_geforce_gtx_560_ti_448_30236_marks Same here. You have 20% higher core, almost 10% higher GDDR. 350MHz more on the CPU.... and only a small increase in GPU score. Again, this score has no LOD. I can keep going bro. Your efficiency is off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schenckel bros Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 PCI-E Gen 3 will have very nearly zero effect on the score. Please also look at these scores: http://hwbot.org/submission/2377088_alibabar_3dmark_vantage___performance_geforce_gtx_560_ti_448_31607_marks Only 180 points behind you, with over 200MHz less! on the core and 75MHz less on the GDDR....(not even using drivers that allow >1GHz core) This one: http://hwbot.org/submission/2258875_rkinslo_3dmark_vantage___performance_geforce_gtx_560_ti_448_30375_marks Comparing is a little more difficult because of the CPU speed but look at the GPU MHz. You have a 30% advantage in core speed and15% in GDDR clocks, but only 10% higher GPU score. This score does not have LOD either. http://hwbot.org/submission/2253233_cowgut_3dmark_vantage___performance_geforce_gtx_560_ti_448_30236_marks Same here. You have 20% higher core, almost 10% higher GDDR. 350MHz more on the CPU.... and only a small increase in GPU score. Again, this score has no LOD. I can keep going bro. Your efficiency is off. Not sure again 1st score can be boosted by 3rd gen Intel, like score in previous post. 2nd score is ok with my point of view... 3300 points with Sandy Bridge... is exact my way of view... and score is ok 3rd score ... I think 1500 points is a lot for Vantage... What I mean is that I believe the score is too high for 1155/1300. I did try and try... and check efficiency with SO, drivers and so on... Then I just asked to check if score is all right... maybe a bug or something like this. Also think we will see many more scores to compare in a couple of days, so we can be sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mutt Posted July 22, 2013 Author Share Posted July 22, 2013 Or maybe he just knows something you don't, I for one is getting pretty tired of all the complaining from some of contestants this year. I don't know all tweaks for every benchmark there is but I don't go and call everyone that gets a higher score with the same clocks a cheater. You have to respect and belive that all competitors follow the rules and do not cheat otherwise you just look like an idiot when more people score better than you. Oh and Schenckel bros, your submisson is missing video beacause your gpu is over 1200. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riska Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 (edited) I can tell you that the winning Vantage score will be much higher than Calatheas score With pre. 320.00 driver even if you set the core speed to 1400mhz the core is only running at 999mhz it is a bug in the driver therfore use the 320.18 or 320.49 or even better use the new 326.19 driver The calathea score is ok in efficinsy and there is no bug there. Edited July 22, 2013 by riska Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calathea Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 Hi guys I se this stirred up quite a discussion. Frankly I feel a bit offended by SCHENCKEL BROS and RBUASS insinuation of this being fake. This was ran with 1155/1300 MHz as shown. This card can't do 1200 core, it's the same card I used in semis http://hwbot.org/submission/2382890_calathea_3dmark11___performance_geforce_gtx_560_ti_448_8696_marks Being a Twin Frozr III card, there still isn't a bios to solve cold bug available so I'm stuck at sub 1200 MHz. Hence didn't bother with video. In a few days we will surely see people posting with unlocked bios and core clocks above 1300 MHz, leaving this score way behind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzolio Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 how much Vcore? my ref and my PE card can 1250Mhz at -60 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calathea Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 1.30. I get green/brown screen If I push more at this temp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzolio Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 1.3V i can do 1230 to 1250 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calathea Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 Mm yes. This card has always clocked bad on the core, max out around 950 MHz on air. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K404 Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 Not sure again score can be boosted by 3rd gen Intel . Why? The GPU is Gen 2.0 and doesn't saturate the bandwidth available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex@ro Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 score is fine,there are some tweaks schenkel bros is not aware of and instead of working them out he decidded to accuse,really ugly thing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CL3P20 Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 LOD and RAM latency across the platforms are more than enough to make up the points with proper tweaks. *Nice run Calathea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbuass Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 I believe the score is correct. Also I don't see Schenckel accusing, but just asking about "why score is too high"... he is not a complaining, but just asking. @Schenckel try other drivers in >999 Mhz to check, because I believe Zoolio is right... Maybe your card shows 1200 on GPUZ, but running at 1000 Mhz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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