Bones

No way that's legit.

I did an entry earlier and although it "Seems" to be right I'm not sure. These are XPG sticks as my entry shows and there is a pic of the system showing these in use. If not already in the database would like for them to be and I will correct the entry once done. BTW here's a link to what these are: ADATA XPG SPECTRIX D80 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Desktop Memory Model AX4U360038G17-DR80 - Newegg.com

The sub has points disabled but still not valid. The screenie of what's shown looks like it was taken by a camera instead of it being an actual screenshot too, this won't fly at all. Knock it down and explain it all to the guy is all I could say.

No, the board shown in his system pic with this entry is an Ultra A. It's still a good board, just not on par with the Ultra B version.

I second this - I've never known Alpi to try and pull crap and I believe it's legit. Good run Alpi!

To point 1, I DO check the rules when comps start to be sure I haven't overlooked anything. Even by doing that I've gotten it wrong before, instead of wasting effort griping I just made sure the next time it was done right. My first sub in the DDR part of this comp is the latest from me, was done and such BUT I forgot to include a closeup of my sticks. Even though all the rest was fine it wasn't a "Correct" entry so it had to be thrown out... And I'm good with that and will get it right the next time whenever this happens, doublechecking the rules being part of that process. Like everything else they are subject to change and it's the bencher's responsibility to be aware of and to comply with said rules. This was established long ago as just being "How it is" so we all have to play by that. To point 2, it's nothing about you - This was about Damion reporting a sub ALREADY said to be fine yet he continued reporting it..... Multiple times at that. This is just part of what I had said here earlier, this relating mainly to part 2 of this post: https://community.hwbot.org/topic/175335-hwbot-rev71-point-recalculation-in-progress/?do=findComment&comment=507791

The rule about not covering any of the rendered scene has been in place for a few months at the very least, if this run was done and subbed recently then there is simply no excuse. Also, since the subject entry of this thread had already been determined as "Valid" yet it got reported more then once AFTER the staff determined it to be OK, that's not a good thing. I do hope this wasn't a "If you can't beat 'em, report 'em" tactic because that's just not cool if so.

This is a sad state of affairs and I have to say "Thank You" to Strunkenbold, it's not everyone that's willing to take on the task in this situation - In fact a heart-felt thank you is due to all that's stepped up and made things work up until this point. I have to echo Splave's statement, the staff are the ones that's supposedly running the show, making the decisions and whatever else - And I'll just say it, it's past time to say what you mean and mean what you say or else related to these problems.

My point on this has already been made earlier, see point #2: https://community.hwbot.org/topic/175335-hwbot-rev71-point-recalculation-in-progress/?do=findComment&comment=507791

Thanks for the reply ? - I've already beaten what I'll ever do with a 754 so it wasn't really about me so much. More like in the case of someone that would only have a 754 system and nothing else to run DDR with and thought to get clarification about it before it became an issue.

Quick question - In SC1: DDR1 stage 8 of the DDR comp, are subs ran with a Socket 754 system allowed?

Rockin it! ?

Killing it!

Thanks! More to come later. ?

This is for anyone needing a CPU-Z version that will run with Socket A. Be sure to scan the file itself before unzipping but I believe it's OK. cpu-z_1.59-32bits-en.zip

Wish I had your luck looking, I only saw one desktop Venice period and a pair of Sempy's as said earlier. Never said they coudn't be found, only that between the three named models this won't be so easy for everyone to have a decent shot at getting one if they need to based on what I saw when I was looking. If the other two models were included that would make things much easier to at least get what one would need to compete and add variety to the mix.

Noted a Venice core is stated for Socket 754 - Would probrably be better if the more commonly found Newcastle or Clawhammer were included too at least. Venice chips for 754 aren't as easy to find as the other two cores. Not saying they can't be found, it's more of going with what's easy to find and get for cheap. I've looked today and saw only one Venice, all the rest being either Newcastle or Clawhammer chips with a couple of 3300+ Semprons in the mix - Clearly a Sempron just won't cut it for the comp regardless of what core it's based on. Of the two additional chips a Newcastle would be the best choice overall if anything else for overall availability and price.

I'm not sure, depends on how the system acts to whether it wants to or not but if so I'll sub them once done. Those were some excellent runs you did, making me work for what I get. ?

YES! These pages load quicker and more smoothly than the current Esports pages do. I also prefer the layout of these vs what's being used now. ?

That's a nice run!

Good run Mac!

Nice run Shady!

Throwin down man!

My point exactly about that part of it - Higher points are already being awarded IF you score well enough.

OK - I'll pull the pin on this grenade...... I'll address each point above with thoughts of my own about the issues mentioned. 1: I also don't think anyone currently has an idea exactly "HOW" it works to be honest regarding the code itself for figuring up all the points for results. I can't place any "Blame" on any one person or thing either, we are all aware of what's happened in recent months and who did what more or less. Too easy to fix one thing and have two go askew if you don't fully understand the coding and it's already been admitted it's VERY complex. You can bet things are inter-woven due to the nature of how it all works and the guy(s) that did understand it well enough are gone. Not saying it can't be figured out but it's probrably SO complex and convoluted at this point it's become a hydra related to fixing things. I'm also not aware of anyone on the staff here named "Hercules". Further tinkering will only make things worse than it is already - And it's pretty damn bad now. 2: Trying to please everyone is another symptom of the current mess and it eventually (Like it or not) comes with a certain expectation of such. I can understand trying to change things so more can and would be interested, however at the price that's being paid now it's not been worth it. There's even a few here that actually expect things to be changed for their benefit alone - Another symptom of the cult of accomidation that's come to be. The ones running the show before are largely responsible for this, instead of telling folks to suck it up, they instead caved time and time again and it's gotten to the point now it's expected such things to be handed over like candy in a parade. Now we've got cavities that needs filling and the fix won't be pleasant. 3: I don't see any sense in awarding bonus points on top of higher points already given to those that do score in the top of their category, esp as things are now. While I will agree there are discreptancies in the way points are awarded, one simple factor is in how popular the bench is - That's one thing that will make some worth more than others if comparing any two categories. If you're already in the top spots you're getting the top points already for that category. You'd have to revamp the entire structure of how points are awarded to make it even close to workable. The place is already a shambles, if done this would serve as another example of the cure being worse than the disease like Chemo can be because.... Piling on bonus points on top of all that's already earned more than those below is an instant competitive spirit "Killer". You want to flatout lock up the top spots so no one is ever in danger again of possibly losing out to someone trying to make their way up the ladder? That's one way to go. So.... You got beat, that's the nature of the game. There shoudn't be any issue(s) if it does happen legitimately, for if there is I'd have to guess someone's ego got bruised.