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I use version 16.1.2 from this link: https://cloud.genieben.com/s/aMJs4BZpRzaGLpb?path=%2F2016

Oh, a name I haven't seen in a while. Welcome back!

my back and knee don't agree

Thanks, as I said your score is very good! Maybe new bios would improve it further. Would be interesting to see if you can do it with 9800X3D as well. For some reason, 8-cores seem to be slower than intel. The difference seems too big (a whole second). Not sure I got this, but I must be older than both of them 😛

It's alright, I guess. At least compared to existing scores.

Oh, good to know as I plan to test LN2 soon. By old bios, do you mean 2505? Maybe I'll go back to 2505 to recheck if I can run the same settings and compare.

Nice, I knew it was possible to take the global from Intel.

Not bad. New bios/agesa actually seems faster than 2505 when tuned.

I have no clue about when new BM will be released. The 0.8.6 is currently on hold as hwbot will have to decide how to handle it.

Huge!

Keep in mind this is mostly to raise awareness as it needs to be decided how or if it is going to be supported. And I think it needs to be decided before BM13 release. My previous score was 10.534 @ 5650. The same thing happened with 0.8.2 vs 0.8.5. IIRC the difference on Zen4 was around the same 300ms. It depends on the platform and the SKU whether it will see a big boost or not.

Very strong score!

I've made an automatic updater, here's its first public build. It's still in rough shape, but it kind of works - at least the straightforward case. I will add info in the app for the separate options, but the minimal setup would be to use default settings (changes saved in settings.xml), select win7 iso, win10 iso and the desired drivers from the dropdown. The most time-consuming step is the updates integration (simplix updater), which also opens several other windows and I can't control that. First run should launch and download the updater pack, then you can turn off "check for updates". If the selected Win7 ISO contains more than one image, you will be asked to pick one from a dropdown, the rest should be automatic. There's an existing issue where my app tries to clean working directory, but the UpdatePack opens a log file on complete and the cleanup fails as that file is in use, but that's just the last step. Keep in mind "Clean" buton deletes the whole Working directory, including the updated "output.iso", so if to be safe you can select a different Output Directory where the ISO will be saved. It is possible to make your own driver package or edit the existing ones - just place it in "drivers" directory. The archive can be zip or 7z, maybe others would work too. Then you select your archive from the dropdown and it will be unpacked in the working directory and later integrated. This makes it possible to update the ISO for any platform, in theory. Or add additional device drivers, like external disk controller, NIC, USB controller, etc. To download Windows bootable ISOs, this is probably the fastest server, at least for me: https://os.click/en/Windows I've tested with 2 different Win7 ISO - one from this site: en_windows_7_ultimate_with_sp1_x64_dvd_u_677332.iso and one old stripped one I had from Z170 and they boath worked. If your source ISO is already updated, the UpdatePack will probably fail, but you can turn that off from its checkbox. For Win10 I've only tried 22H2 x64. ------------ Can be downloaded from my GoogleDrive: SevenUpdater-v1.0-beta.zip Source is on github: https://github.com/irusanov/win-seven-updater

Practical testing makes perfect.

I'm impressed, great 3DM 11 physics scores! I didn't spend time optimizing for this bench as we're not competitive in the cup, but it seems there's a lot to gain.

Isn't that the same system Dr.Antoine used in his most recent sub? The VGA (980Ti) on the picture also seems to be his, while the sub was done with GT1030 (also his). Same windows, same fan, same keyboard, same PSU, same settings. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Since the old updater is obsolete now, here's my current procedure. Most have been posted by @Sebyon discord. The ISO should work for AM4 and AM5. # Prerequisites Clean official Windows 7 SP1 ISO without cumulative updates. I use en_windows_7_ultimate_with_sp1_x64_dvd_u_677332.iso. You can find it by googling for the name or the checksum. MD5: c9f7ecb768acb82daacf5030e14b271e I think these are the official checksums CRC32: 992B8FCD MD5: C9F7ECB768ACB82DAACF5030E14B271E SHA-1: 36AE90DEFBAD9D9539E649B193AE573B77A71C83 SHA-256: 36F4FA2416D0982697AB106E3A72D2E120DBCDB6CC54FD3906D06120D0653808 To check the MD5 has of the downloaded file, open a cmd in the directory and run certutil -hashfile en_windows_7_ultimate_with_sp1_x64_dvd_u_677332.iso MD5 Windows 10 x64 ISO of choice, we will use install.wim from the Windows 7 ISO and replace it in the Win10 ISO 30GB free space Update Pack: https://update7.simplix.info/UpdatePack7R2+.exe Drivers: Asus: AMD_Ryzen_Drivers_ASUS_Win7_64_SHA256_G.7z Others: AMD_Ryzen_Drivers_S7_Win7_64_SHA256_G.7z # Preparation I would create a folder in C:\, e.g. "AM5" for simplicity. Also create a new directory in C:\AM5 with the name "offline". Extract with 7zip the en_windows_7_ultimate_with_sp1_x64_dvd_u_677332.iso to its own directory in the newly created AM5 directory Extract drivers, I will use as an example AMD_Ryzen_Drivers_S7_Win7_64_SHA256_G.7z to the same AM5 directory Copy UpdatePack7R2+.exe into AM5 and run it, this will download the latest updater pack. # Remove image editions I will remove all image editions, except Ultimate, but you can leave another edition of choice. The ISO contains 4 editions with their indices 1. Home Basic 2. Home Premium 3. Professional 4. Ultimate Open an elevated command prompt in C:\AM5\ Dism /Delete-Image /ImageFile:"C:\AM5\en_windows_7_ultimate_with_sp1_x64_dvd_u_677332\sources\install.wim" /Index:1 /CheckIntegrity Note that when deleting an index, remaing editions change their indicies. To leave just the Ultimate, we run the above command 2 more times Dism /Delete-Image /ImageFile:"C:\AM5\en_windows_7_ultimate_with_sp1_x64_dvd_u_677332\sources\install.wim" /Index:1 /CheckIntegrity Dism /Delete-Image /ImageFile:"C:\AM5\en_windows_7_ultimate_with_sp1_x64_dvd_u_677332\sources\install.wim" /Index:1 /CheckIntegrity Now Ultimate edition is with index 1. # Add Updates copy UpdatePack7R2-24.12.12.exe C:\AM5\en_windows_7_ultimate_with_sp1_x64_dvd_u_677332\sources\ cd C:\AM5\en_windows_7_ultimate_with_sp1_x64_dvd_u_677332\sources Run the command and wait for the update process to complete UpdatePack7R2-24.12.12.exe /WimFile="C:\AM5\en_windows_7_ultimate_with_sp1_x64_dvd_u_677332/sources/install.wim" /Index=1 /Optimize # Add Drivers - Mount the image Dism /Mount-Image /ImageFile:"C:\AM5\en_windows_7_ultimate_with_sp1_x64_dvd_u_677332\sources\install.wim" /Index=1 /MountDir:C:\AM5\offline - Integrate the drivers Dism /Image:C:\AM5\offline /Add-Driver /Driver:"C:\AM5\AMD_Ryzen_Drivers_S7_Win7_64_SHA256_G" /Recurse /forceunsigned or Dism /Image:C:\AM5\offline /Add-Driver /Driver:"C:\AM5\AMD_Ryzen_Drivers_ASUS_Win7_64_SHA256_G" /Recurse /forceunsigned for ASUS, but I've also used the first ones succesfully on my Gene - Verify drivers are listed (optional) Dism /Image:"C:\AM5\offline" /Get-Drivers - Save changes to the image and unmount Dism /Unmount-Image /MountDir:"C:\AM5\offline" /Commit # Create new ISO At this point you can copy/move en_windows_7_ultimate_with_sp1_x64_dvd_u_677332\sources\install.wim and install_Windows 7 ULTIMATE.clg to the root of AM5 directory and delete en_windows_7_ultimate_with_sp1_x64_dvd_u_677332 - Extract Windows 10 ISO with 7zip in the AM5 directory, I've used Win10_22H2_English_x64.iso and renamed as "test" - Copy modified install.wim and install_Windows 7 ULTIMATE.clg to test\sources and replace existing file(s) - Create new ISO with some app, I've used ImgBurn or WinAIO Maker Professional Test it and if it installs successfully, you can start trimming it manually or with tools like NTLite. I use MBR SSD and CMS turned on in BIOS. To make BenchMate work, extract/move it in Program Files. I've personally installed the same ISO to MSI B550 Uinify-X AM4 and Asus X670E Gene AM5. For installation different windowses from the same flash drive I use Ventoy as once setup, you just drop the ISO on the flash drive and it is then selectable in the install menu. TL;DR; For those who don't want to spend time creating and optimizing their own image, here's my current base ISO (mostly stock with few unattended settings and not compressed). I think it was created with the "generic" driver pack. Windows.7.Ultimate.SP1.x64.EN.AM5_base.iso

In my testing SMT off needed +200MHz to catch up SMT on with static OC. I only tested it briefly as my 9950X had awful second ccd, so I might not remember correctly. PS: Looking at my saved results 16/16 5500/2nd ccd unknown: 10.301 16/32 5300/5100: 10.316 so roughly the same score, 200MHz difference, but I don't know the frequency of the second ccd in the 16/16 case, it could not do above 5150 on chiller.

Oh, wow, 453MHz unganged. Great run! PS: Ah, DDR2, but nevertheless nice score.

Finally someone figured it out, congrats! :)

GT3 looks bugged to me :/

The Dual OC has a custom PCB that is different than reference and Strix. I could not find a compatible boardview file, but there might be some other model that uses same/similar PCB. It's my first touch with AMD card newer than HD7970 and I didn't even know what I'm buying, but this particular model seems to be a popular amongst miners in my country. The PCB exposes convenient I2C pads for the main PWM controller and also additional pads for hotwire (vcore, vmem, vddci). To enable hotwire functions, I had to bridge some pads for the different rails, otherwise the pads are disconnected and you can only use the measuring points. - I2C connection to ASP1300 - it's a relabelled IR3567B and EVC2 has full support - bridge pads marked in red to enable OVM and OVCI pins. For example, to control memory voltage with EVC, connect a GND point to GND on EVC, OVM to SRC1 and VDDM to VIN1, then use feedback mode in the software. It should be possible to use a regular hardware mod with a variable resistor (trimpot), but you need to connect one leg to OVM and the other one to GND. Always measure voltage under load. The core pads are on the back of the card, but that's unnecessary if you're going to use the I2C pads for the main PWM. Edit: Replaced images

True, but you still have the option to open in another tab/window via middle click or right click -> open in new tab/window. Same on mobile with tap & hold. But when the site forces it in another tab/window, you don't have the option anymore to open it in the same tab and some users might want exactly that. It doesn't matter that me and you prefer it opened in a new tab As a compromise, you would need to have an icon and a tooltip indicating that the link opens in another window. PS: Of course, if you're Apple, you decide what is best for the users and don't give them options

Thanks! I will probably try it on LN2 in the following weeks, curious to see if I can get 6c #1.

That's actually against good UX principles. I'm used to middle-click on links that I want to open in a new tab.