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IMT451U6MFR8Y-DC0, single sided 4GB sticks.

I contacted the seller to ask about those sticks last week and they did not reply to me. That said, maybe somebody not in the US will have better luck

There were also 2400c8 Avexir sticks. I am aware of four sticks, and a lot more of the 2200c8, so I would guess the 2200s are the "rejects" of John Lam's operation.

Agreed. Personally, my "wishlist" isn't really "kits I want to hoard in trays", that's useless to me, more like curiosities. It's why I use the phrasing of "novelty"; would be interesting to have, but I'm not really one for collecting (despite my spamming of this apparent collector post). The only reason I have a lot of rarer kits is because I have to bin them still, but I only intend to keep a handful around once all is said and done.

No particular interest, I do ultimately want to get my hands on one of each IC (since it's hardly unprecedented for enthusiasts to discover a random IC that's actually useful, see Samsung 1Gb G), but I have a Pi Black 2000 9-9-9 kit of it. It was actually an accident, I didn't even notice they were 1GB sticks until I got them. Freegeek, I assume? That is a good deal, I myself got a lot of 2000-2200 sticks from them a while ago, haven't tested all of the sticks but the 2000 Ripjaws I got in that lot turned out to be excellent. Whether the blacklines are GT depends on the part number, I nabbed a kit of those when I was just getting into DDR3 and was a bit disappointed to find out they were JN. To be fair, I didn't actually pull the spreaders, but they weren't any good. Kingston also depends on the P/N: 2000C9D = 9-9-9 BBSE, 2000C9AD = 9-11-9 BDBG or BFBG, depending on production date. My wishlist was also enormous, but, well, with a lot of time, money, and patience, now the number of kits I have is enormous (a bit too enormous...) Well, shoot, now I have to talk about my favorite subject, insane (near-)vaporware bins. At least, my understanding of some. Near-vaporware (extremely limited): F3-19200CL8D-4GBPIS, 2400C8 Pi. Very good bin, source of some of the best air results I've ever seen (though I believe the particular kit I'm thinking of, which TaPaKaH had at the time, hated cold; air isn't everything), but I've seen kits that were merely "pretty good". Apparently was retail but I don't think there were more than like a dozen kits. F3-19200CL8Q-8GBZHD, 2400C8 Ripjaws Z, same deal as the Pi. Some insane sticks, very limited. As far as I know it was only quad kits, so that doesn't help things. F3-20000CL9D-4GBTDS, 2500 9-11-9 1.65V PSC. Found in an OC3D review. I would guess this exact spec didn't go retail, or if it did, insanely limited. F3-20000CL9D-4GBTDS, 2500 9-11-11 1.65V PSC. The only results I have a link to are from Hiwa, he claimed they were a retail purchase and sold out immediately. If some of those results truly were done with memory on air, that kit of his was golden. Demo/ES SKUs: F3-12800CL5Q-8GBPI, 1600 5-8-5 1.65V PSC. F3-16000CL6D-4GBFX(D?), 2000 6-9-9 1.65V PSC. Look like some sort of Reaper-Flare hybrid. F3-18400CL7D-4GBPID, 2300 7-10-10 1.65V PSC. I know where this kit is but only one stick is still alive. F3-20000CL8D-4GBTDS, 2500 8-12-8 1.65V PSC. Used by Hiwa at a Computex 2010 demo. I believe Andre Yang had a kit as well. Don't have a clear picture on hand. KHX2544C9D3T1FK2/2GX, 2544 9-11-10 1.65V BDBG. PR. F3-20800CL8D-4GBPIS, 2600 8-11-8 1.65V PSC. The "3" and "4" on the PCBs in the picture make me think there were at least two kits... Vaporware (don't have any concrete evidence of these existing, beyond people asking if it exists ) : F3-14400CL6D-4GBFLS, 1800 6-8-6 1.65V PSC. F3-18400CL9D-4GBTDS, 2300 9-9-9-24 1.65V BBSE.

Count me in

Some high bin and/or rare kits I own: D9GT - Corsair Dominator CM3X1024-1800C7DIN (1800 7-7-7 2V) - Definitely not as rare as the CM3X2048 version but one of the best bins Hyper - Corsair Dominator GT CMG6GX3M3A2000C7 (2000 7-8-7 1.65V) Hyper - SuperTalent Project X WX200UX6G7 (2000 7-7-7 1.65V) - A very aggressive XMP, though not sure on actual quality BBSE - G.Skill Ripjaws X F3-17000CL8D-4GBXMD (2133 8-9-8 1.65V) BBSE - G.Skill Ripjaws X F3-17600CL9D-4GBXMD (2200 9-9-9 1.65V) BBSE - Kingmax Hercules FLKE85F-B8KHA (2200 10-10-10 1.5-1.7V) - I don't think they're all that great but it's quite a high frequency BDBG - Kingston T1 KHX2250C9D3T1FK3/6GX (2250 9-11-9 1.65V), KHX2333C9D3T1FK3/3GX (2333 9-11-10 1.65V) and KHX2333C9D3T1K2/4GX (2333 9-11-9 1.65V) - high frequency Kingston bins, though not the highest PSC - G.Skill Pi F3-16000CL7D-4GBPIS (2000 7-9-7 1.65V) - Nothing special quality-wise, but seem to be rare simply due to a lack of sales PSC - G.Skill Pi F3-16000CL6D-4GBPIS and F3-16000CL6T-6GBPIS (2000 6-9-6 1.65V) - Very famous bin and was very popular back in the day due to the tight spec and some impressive kits found in this bin PSC - G.Skill Flare F3-16000CL7D-4GBFLS (2000 7-9-7 1.65V) - The highest bin of Flares, which are quite rare since they were made for AMD Rev.D - G.Skill Trident X F3-2666C10Q-16GTXD (2666 10-12-12 1.65V) - G.Skill's highest bin Rev.D - Corsair Dominator Platinum CMD16GX3M4A2666C10 (2666 10-12-12 1.65V) - The single best retail bin1 2Gb BFR - Corsair Dominator GTX8 CMGTX8 (2400 10-12-10 1.65V) - Useless for benching but a collector's item CFR - Kingston "Overclocker's dream memory" (2800 12-14-14-32 1.65V) - ES, have changed hands a couple times as a "kit" of 4, I believe there are 8-10 total but somebody can correct me if there are more MFR - G.Skill Trident X F3-2933C12D-8GTXDG (2933 12-14-14-35 1.65V) - High frequency MFR, though not G.Skill's highest Wishlist (retail or apparently retail; P.S. my PMs are open ) : D9GT - pretty much any well-binned 2GB sticks, they a bit harder to find than 1GB since it is such an old IC PSC/Hyper - Corsair GTX1-6 Hyper - Adata Extreme Edition v2 AD32133F002GM(O)U3K - novelty mostly, very high voltage spec and seems to be extremely rare BDBG - KHX2400C9D3T1FK2/4GX, Kingston's highest retail bin PSC - pretty much any of the high frequency (over 2200) bins, whether for novelty or quality depends on the particular kit (F3-18400CL8D-4GBPIS, F3-19200CL8Q-8GBZHD, F3-19200CL8D-4GBPIS, F3-19200CL9D-4GBPIS, F3-20000CL9D-4GBTDS, PVV34G2500C9K, etc.) PSC - F3-16000CL8D-4GBPIS - 2000 8-9-8 and not Corsair, lol, another case of seeming to be extremely rare simply due to a lack of sales. The one result I've heard was that it was garbage, but that won't stop me! Various SKUs interesting for other reasons -- using weird ICs (very old 512Mb kits), kits with an IC not usually meant for that model (BBSE 2000 8-8-8), etc. And maybe other stuff, this was off the top of my head And, obviously, there are lot of special demo/ES/etc SKUs that would be cool to own, or other rare bins that I'm not sure went retail, but the likelihood of getting most nowadays is nearly zero.

Somebody was a little faster, reserved awaiting payment... will update if it becomes available again.

For sale is a Z77 OCF with a 3570K socket protector. Good condition, only used the board for a few hours doing various testing. Never seen cold. $160 OBO shipped US (can quote international), PPFF preferred.

Oh, I did buy some 2000 9-9-9 flares on the date of this post ? I have two kits, 1031 and 1039. They're pretty decent: In the worse 1039 pair, one stick is strong on tRCD (1100 6-9-6 8M, 1200 7-10-7 32M, 1300 8-11-8 32M), both are fine on voltage but not "strong." In the better 1031 pair (the one you're asking about), they're not quite so tRCD-strong (8M/1M 1300 tRCD11), but do pass 1333 8-12-8 tight at 1.86V which I was impressed with -- definitely my best 2000C9 at the time (though now I have found some very similar Ripjaws) I happened to see that you got some more patriots recently, hope they perform well for you T/R I don't think ever made it into 2000 9-9-9, only 2000 9-10-9, and the highest was 2200 9-11-9 as far as I know. (Also, just to be pedantic, the X/T/R system doesn't mean what "common wisdom" thinks it does ?. But that's a discussion for another time.)

I have a kit of 2133 9-11-9 patriots. PSC, but not any good.

very nice

crazy effi as always

I have a whole tray of this stuff...maybe I should test it sometime ? Edit: two trays!

nice work

nice!

(First note I have been binning IMCs with 8M, not 32M.) I have had multiple CPUs that were not able to do 2666 8-12-8 tight, though this was only in quick profile testing and maybe some of those could do it with some tweaking. I use IMC volts +0.3/+0.25/+0.25 and very lazy +0.05 to each if the chip fails. It depends on the sticks and how many channels as well, I have had multiple chips fail 2600c8 with dual channel sticks that do 2666 all day, and then do 2750 8-12-8 in single on a better stick. For harders numbers, in my most recent round of IMC testing (2666 8-12-8 tight and 2750 8-12-8 tight) I had 23% fail 2666, 77% pass 2666 (~5% of passing chips needed raised IMC), and 41% pass 2750 (~25% of passing chips needed raised IMC). This was across 39 G3258/4670K/4770K. IMC also matters for VDIMM. I did some mem binning on a crap 4670K that struggled with 2666 8-12-8 last year. When I rested with a very good IMC (now dead ) some of the same sticks ran settings at 50mV lower volts. And of course there's more. Some IMCs hate tight tRCD or tRP, some don't like extreme VDIMM, etc. Binning IMC for Samsung (Rev.D) is much much easier. Probably 90% of my chips I tested (all G3258?) passed 2800c9 no problem so I decided it wasn't worth doing.

great work

nice!

This seems like the simplest solution. I don't care how many cores people use to validate but I don't like the idea of restricting the option of disabling cores because some people don't like it. It doesn't really make sense when CPU-Z isn't ranked by core count and modern hardware and overclocking is moving away from fixed all-core clocks anyway.

monster score

awesome work

After testing about a dozen quad cores I have found an L310B 4770K with an IMC good enough for my purposes and I've been doing a lot of PSC binning on this board lately. Tested only ~a dozen sticks on this setup so far but some nice results I'm not sure if it's because of this IMC or what, but I have had crazy scaling on most sticks, 2V+ easy on all so far and with the right settings even scaling 2.1V+, 2.2V+, and at least booting even 2.3V on some sticks (a mediocre 2000C9 Trident booted 2.33V!), with normal ambients and auto VTTDDR. Helps me not to feel bad about average sticks by MHz/volt terms with scaling like this ? : Maybe even 2666C7 tCWL6 or 2666C6 could be done with cold ambients and stupid volts? tRDRDs can go a little tighter here (not sure about 4-5-4), but just a bit of fun: For point of reference this stick does 1200 7-11-7-28 tCWL8 1.7V, 1300 8-12-7-28 tCWL6 1.84V, 1333 8-12-8-28 tCWL6 1.9V, 1350 8-12-8-28 tCWL6 2.01V, 1400 8-13-8-28 tCWL6 2.08V all tight subs. Again, far from golden lovo. +0.3/+0.25/+0.25 used for all testing except the 2950 screen where a bump to +0.28 IOD helped boot consistency. An even better IMC I suspect will improve tRCD12 and tRCD13 ceilings for this kind of testing, 1375 8-12-8 is at least bootable yet 8-13-8 stops at only 1414 32M...

Nice!