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Call BS... you moved the camera view away from the SPi window + command box before you hit "go" How did those CPU-Z windows appear all of a sudden? Trying to pass off an old screenshot as the work you did on video? Cheaters like you make me sick

Yea, the CG fire looks SO cheap

40p? Or.... another offer...... 60p for you to spill what it is you've been talking about... i'm curious.....

BRILLIANT results bro.... keep pushing it! Any special tweaks? Public BIOS?

http://hwbot.org/forum/showthread.php?t=9914 ?

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We know theres changes that can be made to the codecs and browsers etc to boost the score.... I dont have a clue (im sure theres others too) when to call BS on scores. At what point do the score ranges go from "whoa thats well tweaked" to "BS- report" To guys who understand these extra tweaks- are you willing to do a guide to help us tell tweaks from cheats?

*checks* I'm a guy. Massman changed my user title on here coz of a jokey convo on XS Ebay is my friend (and enemy) I usually submit scores in batches, its just the way I work. By the time I submit, some of them might be a month old

Is it needed for the top 20 of benchmarks that have leaderboards for # cores? E.G..... PCMark with 1 core CPUs? etc

Well....i'd be happier if I could sell mine before then

Its on BSN, but i've heard it from more reliable sources too The processor is set to debut in just a few weeks, during September 2010. From what we managed to learn, the i7-990X is based on a new stepping of Intel's 32nm Gulftown core consisted out of six cores and additional six threads. The clock is upped from 3.33GHz to 3.46GHz, while the Turbo mode ticking at 3.6GHz. According to preliminary results we have received, you should have no problems in clocking this processor past 4.5GHz on air, and 5GHz on water should be granted. According to our sources, engineers are delighted with the new stepping, as the company is about to roll out new Xeon processors with accordingly high clock-speeds. Given that in some cases, the overclocked Gulftown beat our 24-core AMD Opteron 6100 [Magny-Cours] setup, it looks like the execution beast named Intel isn't stopping anytime soon. Bear in mind that this will not be the first Gulftown clocked at 3.46GHz. At the beginning of 2010, Intel released a quad-core version [two cores disabled] named Xeon X5677, which featured 12MB of L3 cache, just like the fully-fledged sexa-core versions. The clocks varied from 1.86 to 3.46GHz, as Gulftown became the first Intel core to ship at 3.46GHz following the ill-fated Prescott architecture and the long-forgotten Pentium 4 EE 955.

I was under the impression the 990x was a new silicon revision. ES doing up to 5GHz on water? My (fairly cynical) question..... will 990x retails be as good as the ES?

Downclocking for screenies will be a problem, as discussed every time we wish the world was full of honest people Chillers to hold at +2, +3 are still a few hundred £, but buying hardware to be top of your league is ok if people are interested in doing it Obligatory: boo-hoo dont **** with the points system again, its unfair to at least 4 people

Dont apologise! I will try next time I bench

Hey bro I always work with low BCLK + high multi. Its less strain on the IMC so I can push Uncore and RAM that bit more There were NO tweaks on this run. Just clean OS and Maxmem

Shared CPU or are is there a small pile of 6.7-6.9GHz 980x? *separate idea* With people working for the company with access to BIOS engineers at conversation level..... how hard/easy is it to have a BIOS made that will show whatever CPU code you want?

R3E has a CPU microcode over-ride option to give better SPi performance... but I cant remember what effect (if any) that has in CPU-Z

Your CPU score is a mess bro But really nice GPU MHz!

Hey Karl, sorry not yet. I missed one on Ebay a couple days ago.... as it happens, it would have been a fair price to pay

Hey I didnt come up with the idea to deliberately hurt their scores Changes usually affect *someone* negatively.... just bad luck. Whatever changes happen/are proposed in the future, I dont think HWB will scrap them to avoid hurting the scores/ rankings of 1-2 teams. Rev2 wasn't entirely kind of XS for example....

Same as any other event... old/classic gear gets its own specialist event or gets a little corner or a mainstream event. Airshows... racing events... any technology show.... most of the focus is on the latest and greatest. It gets the most interest. How will this be better than what I have now? Is it value for money? What is the best that technology can offer NOW? Older platforms are from a time before HWB... not so many people are using them any more on a day to day basis and the ones who are probably dont care about getting the best performance from them. A reasonable % of the parts aren't even easy to find on Ebay, or aren't a good price for the performance. The latest and greatest gets the attention, gets the sales and yes, from a competitive OC point of view, will bring more sponsors. Thing is though... If I go to a company and say "I have 2000 hardware points on HWB".... That means NOTHING to them If I say... "I have 100 top 5 results on HWB, in some of the most popular hardware categories" That has a much clearer context. I dont think points make sponsors..... proof ob ability in relevant categories does... I believe the points awarded for a score should be proportional to the scores around about. Its not necessarily about more points for the big hitters.... unless they've clearly EARNED it. I believe in being awarded for work that is clearly well done too I think most people believe that

A/ you made your choices for the categories you participate in. B/ If its unpopular hardware, why should it be heavily awarded? C/ Cater to new hardware? What company gives a shit about s478? s462? What OC competition will feature that hardware to attract attention? Upcoming 28nm parts must make you twitch with anger! Points clearly aren't motivating you... else you'd be benching popular hardware categories, right? If its not your motivation, why do you care so much about how they are rewarded? Unpopular categories would be excluded from my idea because there probably wouldnt be enough info/ enough submissions to guage good scores from bad.

maybe I mis-read the tone of your post, but it comes across as excessively aggressive..... You missed my point. In a lot of cases, I think it will benefit the guy in 2nd, 3rd place as much... or more... than the guy in 1st place. Popular category: gold is 50 points, silver is 40, bronze is 33. It doesn't take into account the difference in scores. Maybe someone takes gold by 1 point..... is that worth 10 points? IMHO.... nope. Actually.... Its about the guy in 2nd place more than the guy in 1st..... Most categories have a fairly tight grouping of scores.... maybe could be classed as making the guy in 2nd place feel less bad? Hell... awarding points and cups is stroking egos. Awarding popular categories more than categories with 20 submissions is stroking ego. World record points... stroking ego. May as well make the ego-stroke proportional to the lead/ deficit

Well... the rankings with only a few results could stick with the current layout for points. Am I right in saying that with the current algorithm, there are break-points for how many points a leaderboard gets? The revision for points could/should(?) apply only to the more popular categories. 980x with older hardware.... same as with any new hardware- the early adopters get an early advantage in the leaderboards, as the use of the new top-end chip increases, more scores are submitted, the leaderboard evens out. Popular hardware categories (mainly GPU) will always get scores submitted to them when new CPUs are released because people like the competition..... and the points. Sadly I agree on the downclocking, but to quote: Thats the way its always been- IMHO your point is mute..... at some point people hit their max and theres still a score *just* beyond their reach.... but the next score improvement might be 5 places higher if they max out in the "wrong" place.