Massman

If the only truth is reality and we have not yet figured out what reality exactly is, how can we know what is the truth? Scientific research has actually shown that people can actually switch off the discrimination 'feature' in their brain as long as you ask for it explicitly. If you don't ask for it, discrimination is always a factor in the decision-making process. All things aside, I think it's quite strange that people are in favor of positive discrimination based on geographical location ("there must be Australian qualifier") and positive discrimination based on financial possibilities ("make it possible for everyone to compete in online qualifier"), but are suddenly heavily opposed to any discrimination based on gender. What's the difference?

It's actually quite sad that the idea of discrimination (positive and negative) has infected our minds to the extend that ANY form of favoritism towards a specific group is perceived as absolute evil.

No, it's my desk.

Which is a good thing, I assume? I don't see how dedicating one spot based on gender is the big deal here. 1/20, and not even a free ticket.

I think some guys incorrectly assume there's only one women on the entire planet eligible for that 'free' ticket.

It's possible that the barrier for competiting in a live competition is currently too limiting? There are definitly some skilled female extreme overclockers out there, so perhaps there needs to be another incentive to get into the game. I dunno. Kinda started this thread to find out what women want ().

Haha, 1 out of 20 teams would be all-female and now the boys are getting mental (eg: considering crossdressing to get free ticket)

If you managed to be first in all categories, you deserve all prizes

Seems like some guys are greatly under-estimating the capabilities of the female extreme overclockers. Guess I touched a nerve by starting this thread

So, you're saying none of the female overclockers are capable of competing at live overclocking competitions? Well ... that sounds like a challenge!

Have you tried contacting Smoke about this issue?

So skill is no longer the only pre-requisite?

Why divide up qualifiers based on geographical location when skill must be the only pre-requisite? I mean, if all the top overclockers live in Europe, why bother having US or Asian competitors?

Nice effort, Kenny!

Well done, karl!

Why prefer mixed team? Would you prefer mixed over all-female?

Hey all, Some manufacturers are thinking about giving a free ticket for a girls-only team at the worldwide finals of their OC event. In general, these events are still dominated by men/boys () although we see an increase in mixed teams. I like the idea of having a team slot for a all-female team. I'm not sure, however, if there's a lot of interest for that. I know of a few female extreme overclockers, but are they interested in teaming up with another female and compete in a live overclocking final? Ideas, suggestions, opinions? Fire away!

That's gravitation force you're seeing.

It's a team challenge. There's no individual victory possible ;-)

Here are the current records: Stage 1: SOCKET 462 - 1751.219 - Turrican with Athlon XP-M 2600+ @ 3094.00 MHz - 1777.880 - tiborrr with Athlon XP-M 2500+ @ 3057.00 MHz - 1791.550 - tiborrr with Athlon XP 2200+ Thoroughbred @ 3094.00 MHz - 1805.750 - tiborrr with Athlon XP 1700+ Thoroughbred @ 3082.00 MHz - 1824.250 - Jaan with Athlon XP-M 2500+ @ 2910.80 MHz - 1830.950 - tiborrr with Athlon XP 2400+ Thoroughbred @ 3008.00 MHz - 1834.800 - tiborrr with Athlon XP 3000+ @ 2967.00 MHz - 1846.085 - mare87 with Athlon XP-M 2600+ @ 2825.30 MHz - 1854.990 - TASOS with Athlon XP-M 2500+ @ 2900.00 MHz - 1879.910 - tiborrr with Athlon XP 2800+ @ 2923.00 MHz Stage 2: SOCKET 478 - 1322.990 - TASOS with Pentium 4 3.2 GHz Prescott @ 4763.00 MHz - 1404.900 - Turrican with Celeron s478 335 @ 5073.00 MHz - 1447.161 - Turrican with Pentium 4 2.8 GHz A Prescott @ 4597.00 MHz - 1467.000 - doctor with Pentium 4 3.2 GHz Prescott @ 4502.00 MHz - 1471.330 - Turrican with Celeron s478 340 @ 4922.00 MHz - 1489.375 - Caos Wolf with Pentium 4 3.0 GHz Prescott @ 4465.00 MHz - 1509.828 - qwerty84 with Celeron s478 330 @ 4469.00 MHz - 1510.240 - Turrican with Celeron s478 330 @ 4709.00 MHz - 1512.840 - skydec with Celeron s478 330 @ 4570.00 MHz - 1520.187 - Gamer with Pentium 4 2.8 GHz A Prescott @ 4500.00 MHz Stage 3: SOCKET 754 - 1526.469 - Mickael with Mobile Athlon 64 4000+ (Newark) @ 3219.00 MHz - 1527.641 - knopflerbruce with Sempron 64 3100+ (S754, Palermo) @ 3134.90 MHz - 1531.266 - knopflerbruce with Mobile Athlon 64 3400+ (Newark) @ 3075.80 MHz - 1554.470 - oxyyy with Athlon 64 3200+ Venice s754 @ 3108.00 MHz - 1554.547 - ZorchThatCPU with Mobile Athlon 64 3400+ (Newark) @ 3005.00 MHz - 1555.906 - knopflerbruce with Athlon 64 3000+ Venice s754 @ 3000.10 MHz - 1559.937 - knopflerbruce with Mobile Athlon 64 3000+ (Newark) @ 2952.20 MHz - 1562.740 - ZorchThatCPU with Mobile Athlon 64 4000+ (Newark) @ 3088.00 MHz - 1564.609 - hs with Sempron 64 3400+ (S754, Palermo) @ 3100.00 MHz - 1573.328 - oxyyy with Sempron 64 3300+ (Palermo) @ 3100.00 MHz Stage 4: SOCKET 370 - 3884.240 - GraduS with Pentium 3 Celeron 1.3Ghz @ 2084.00 MHz - 3944.520 - GraduS with Pentium 3 1.4Ghz @ 1892.00 MHz - 4067.180 - sparkY1000 with Pentium 3 Celeron 1.2Ghz @ 1947.30 MHz - 4068.270 - kwaz2 with Pentium 3 1.266Ghz @ 1626.00 MHz - 4111.892 - Turrican with Pentium 3 1.133Ghz (256KB L2 Cache) @ 1724.00 MHz - 4113.210 - sparkY1000 with Pentium 3 1.4Ghz @ 1680.00 MHz - 4120.535 - Turrican with Pentium 3 Celeron 1.2Ghz @ 1804.00 MHz - 4123.050 - GraduS with Pentium 3 Celeron 1.1A Ghz Tualatin @ 1829.00 MHz - 4209.323 - kwaz2 with Pentium 3 1.133Ghz (512KB L2 Cache) @ 1475.70 MHz - 4268.808 - Turrican with Pentium 3 Celeron 1.0A Ghz Tualatin @ 1746.00 MHz Stage 5: SOCKET 939 - 1125.156 - fredyama with Athlon 64 FX-57 @ 3893.80 MHz - 1133.160 - Dani with Athlon 64 FX-57 @ 3893.00 MHz - 1162.890 - Denny AKA guess2098 with Athlon 64 FX-57 @ 3840.00 MHz - 1165.531 - TaPaKaH with Opteron 152 90nm @ 3705.00 MHz - 1173.000 - knopflerbruce with Opteron 156 90nm @ 3803.10 MHz - 1181.330 - Fixxxer with Athlon 64 FX-57 @ 3803.00 MHz - 1181.840 - gocchin with Athlon 64 FX-57 @ 3791.00 MHz - 1183.450 - gianni-gt with Athlon 64 4000+ San Diego @ 3750.00 MHz - 1185.230 - s7e9h3n with Opteron 154 90nm @ 3750.80 MHz - 1188.610 - gianni-gt with Athlon 64 3700+ San Diego @ 3688.00 MHz

Thinking about it ... I think our team will have to Ebay to get some stages done

I think the OC charts of the VGA are now based on 'highest per user', which basically eliminates the 'lazy clocks'. That's how this type of graphs will also be in Rev4. "Any high-end board will do just fine - choose the one with the nicest colors". In the end, much rather than 'quality components' is how familiar you are with the bios and boot/crash symptoms. ASUS reacts differently from GIGABYTE and MSI; some people will be better on the R3E, some better on the UD9, some even on the XPower. In the end, there's no such thing as "the best board". Overall, I think that's basically what these charts show us. I have no idea; probably depends on the benchmark. 06 ends with GPU test, so probably GPU clocks. V ends with CPU test, so probably CPU clocks.

Post proof, not words.

Actually ... Afterburner 2.00x (the one for GTX480 Lightning and used at MOA WW 2010) has an expiration date which makes it impossible to use the software after a specific date. The workaround for this problem consists of setting your system time to before that experation date. Not a lie, in other words.

How can it be a bad smaple? You're first of the HW ranking ... you must have a binned, hand-picked, golden sample + a lot of luck