FatBoyNotSoSlim

When I beat this score next time I'm on LN2, I'll dedicate it to you.

great

I've been thinking about this all morning and to the best of my knowledge, I think hardware falls into 3 categories when you really think this out. Retail Limited Engineering Sample. Lets look at this in reverse order. Engineering Sample and in the case of Intel CPUs are restricted and kept under NDA (not that some people care/resell) for testing of OEM products, and are available months earlier than retail. Kaby Lake cpus are doing the rounds now for motherboard testing, and people with the hookups can dial in and get overclocking with them now. Now, once they go retail, the BOT makes the definition that as a current gen ES cpu, it's restricted in use for competitions, and points. GPUs are also out there in ES stock, again for OEMs to be testing their implementations, QVL etc for their motherboards. Motherboards, will surely be ES and under NDA. Theres some leaks here and there on Z270x motherboards that have been testing the new CPUs, and not much else other than a product name is known. To my knowledge, if a product is ES, it's got limitations for sale. Can I talk to Intel and say, hey I'd like to buy Kaby Lake cpus please. Unlikely no, but if I was an existing OEM that needed the cpus for testing my motherboards for QVL, then I'd have access to them through B2B means. Limited release is the grey area. The products were made, and were available to be sent out to reviewers and top overclockers, given as prizes, but, they may not directly be covered by an NDA nor may they have been directly available for SALE. BUT, I can purchase these if I put up the money for the production run. Retail is retail, it was made in enough quantity that it was sold to the public somewhere sometime. Limited run Galax HoF cards, MSI Lightnings, G.Skill BDies and Gigabyte Z97X LN2 board all apply here, as they were on sale to the public at some point or another somewhere. So on the topic of the Z170x LN2 board, it wasn't retail, but is it ES? So does that put it into a limited run grey area? I don't think its ES since it's a product that was designed for a specific overclocking purpose but wasn't hidden behind NDAs and can be purchased (sure, for the $100k cost of doing a production run). But it's not retail as it never went into the distro chain. And according to the rules.... Elite...you get (engineering grade) hardware for alpha/beta testing overclocking capabilities Not Elite...you receive hardware for reviews, which you afterwards use for your overclocking And, for the no boints aspect, it looks to fall under 1.2 – UNRELEASED/NDA HARDWARE. So maybe thats where the motherboard falls? Unreleased with no boints? This has gotten complicated quickly.

So, back on topic. Since I'm not a free sample beggar like some people in this thread and would be buying any such board with my own money, I'm cool with upto USD$250. However, Z170 is dead with Z270 is a few months out. Maybe if we were all productive, we could provide feedback to OEMs and work together to group buy a board in the Kaby Lake generation? Then again, I'm sure some fuckers will still complain that since it wasn't sold at some local computer store in their remote village, it's not a true retail board and needs to be banned from extreme league and points....

Hax

YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH :banana::nana::celebration::banana::nana: :celebration::banana::nana: :celebration::banana::banana::nana::celebration:

cool score bro, great work. <thumbs up> [GIF OF SOMETHING HERE]

Urdead2me. Well done.

Yeahh boiii!

Agreed on the RBG and VR points. It's all the industry cared about at Computex, so I'd expect it to be Hwbots focus too. Sent from my LG-H815 using Tapatalk

Also, hey Sof.

Plan is to run XTU on loop for a few days and see what scores remain. Currently 742 is ok, but can we go higher??

Indeed. Still playing around with them, aiming for 39XX or 4XXX as tight as possible.

Good workings on this job Sofos.

Don't you dare touch my bunnying globals, I'll fight you for them, right here right now.

Thanks mate!

Yeah well, shiny new AUD1000 toys.

No, wait, maybe? I can't math good enough to know if it's worth it for me. So personally, I'll complain when it goes live. Troll some scores, then carry on as usual. In other words, bring it on, fix it later. Sent from my LG-H815 using Tapatalk

I know, it's not my best submission... the mobile app is trigger happy at automatically submitting scores for me.

Then we'll need more supply of RAPTOR3 pots to compensate... which is your business. :celebration:

Maybe I've been living under a rock, but all the clickbait from June had the Pascal cards as being junk and no extreme OC possible. Now I'm seeing results with Dancop pushing 2500mhz and counting on Ln2? Almost like things are evolving and getting better with time? Kaby Lake 8ghz XTU confirmed by Splave himself. Intel, have all my money!

As long as I can still post gifs in comments, and am ranked number one in Australia, I'm cool with it.

Here we go Sofos... HERE WE GO!

Agreed, he can be contacted here: zeropluszero@hwbot.org