5erveD Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 23 minutes ago, BOBKOC said: fpt have you tried? No, not yet. It was such nice weather that I actually went outside Will give it a go. 4 hours ago, sergmann said: Flash same bios like your first one to b-bios, save you profiles from main bios to usb und upload it to backup bios. It should works without any problems. After it you can try main bios Chip, but I’m not sure if it will works better. how is the position of your bios switches? Have you selected single bios or dual bios? Yes, I am not sure either if that will work. Just thinking about and trying solutions. Yes, running dual bios. Had g7400 ran on the other one and profiles. Will give this a go now. Thanks for you help, Gents! Will let you know if it works or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spit051261 Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 (edited) Can you try a 12100 ? Worked for me . Not had chance to try KS or any other chip. Edited October 30, 2022 by spit051261 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5erveD Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, spit051261 said: Can you try a 12100 ? Worked for me . Not had chance to try KS or any other chip. Don't have one. Only 12900KS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spit051261 Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 I will try a ks tomorrow . ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5erveD Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 (edited) 36 minutes ago, spit051261 said: I will try a ks tomorrow . ? Thank you, but no need anymore. @sergmann @BOBKOC Well F..... me running! I got it working. Not sure what actually did the trick. I switched the biosses a couple of times, flashed known good bios on them and then just flashed the x4b in the bios. I am able to alter settings now. Tried a known faulty setting so I had to re-enter the bios again and it worked. No screens freezing. Used limp button as wel. Works. It beats me but I ain't complaining (yet) Finally able to do some tuning. Already able to boot higher mem frequency with my mediocre mem kit. Much abliged for the suggestions and thinking with me to overcome the obstacle. ? Edited October 30, 2022 by 5erveD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spit051261 Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 (edited) Just tried KS and I am unable to boot into BIOS on x4b. Gives me the BIOS option option and then goes blank after selecting BIOS. Goes into OS fine but not BIOS. 12100 goes into BIOS and OS fine . Could try a few other 12th gen chips I suppose. Weird eh ? Must be doing something wrong ? Edited October 30, 2022 by spit051261 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergmann Posted October 30, 2022 Author Share Posted October 30, 2022 KS wasn’t important for me because 13gen can do higher clocks and Mem frequency, this is why I don’t tested it before. Only 12gen with AVX512, this is why I’ve changed microcode in Bios and replaced one of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt26LFC Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 (edited) Any got a 7970 to work on the Z690 tachyon? I can't get mine to work Also got a GTX 590 on the way, hopefully can get that going! Edited October 30, 2022 by Matt26LFC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOBKOC Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Matt26LFC said: Any got a 7970 to work on the Z690 tachyon? in x8(or x4 PCH) slot work or not? Edited October 30, 2022 by BOBKOC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt26LFC Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 1 hour ago, BOBKOC said: in x8(or x4 PCH) slot work or not? 2nd slot worked! Didn't occur to me to even try a different slot haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spit051261 Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 7 hours ago, sergmann said: KS wasn’t important for me because 13gen can do higher clocks and Mem frequency, this is why I don’t tested it before. Only 12gen with AVX512, this is why I’ve changed microcode in Bios and replaced one of them. Yes , don't make any difference . KS will be going into retirement ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOBKOC Posted October 30, 2022 Share Posted October 30, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Matt26LFC said: 2nd slot worked! oookay, then https://community.hwbot.org/topic/210084-gigabyte-z690-tachyon/?do=findComment&comment=629089 + & no solution. sergmann, report (whenever possible) the problem to the Bios guys from gigabyte, + return the save bios option? Edited October 31, 2022 by BOBKOC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergmann Posted October 31, 2022 Author Share Posted October 31, 2022 @BOBKOC have you tested this GPU with older X-Bios versions? Does it work? Have you load defaults before you have changed GPU and removed power from Board? I can`t test this GPU becaus I don`t have it. If you still with 12th gen CPU and GPU works with older bios versions, I would stay with it ;). I should have one 7970 GPU here, can try it also with my Z690 board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOBKOC Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, sergmann said: have you tested this GPU with older X-Bios versions? "my 6900XT work(in first slot x16) only x8 mode(when something is in the second x8 slot) on F20а&b & on X**(except for X4b), F6 Аll ok" https://community.hwbot.org/topic/210084-gigabyte-z690-tachyon/?do=findComment&comment=629089 "Z690 AORUS TACHYON&PowerColor Red Devil RX6900XT Limited Edition Problem 0. !! on F6 bios no problem with PowerColor Red Devil RX6900XT Limited Edition!! F20b&F20а or X4b bios no initialise PowerColor Red Devil RX6900XT Limited Edition in x16 slot. Оnly when I put something in the x8 slot then 6900 XT start working(x8 mode in x16 slot)." https://www.reddit.com/r/gigabyte/comments/ycgj2m/comment/itqo8fu/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3 load defaults & other variation with no result. For this reason had to use |6900XT in x8 mode on x16 slot|+ |nvme over Pci-e x4 adapter in x8 slot| +|PCI to Pci-e x1 adapter in x4 PCH slot| ↓ Spoiler Edited October 31, 2022 by BOBKOC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergmann Posted October 31, 2022 Author Share Posted October 31, 2022 2:30 AM in Germany ?I couldn’t find my 7970 but 290x. Have tested it on z690 with X4b and x3k with 12900k and 13900k, don’t works but it works on z790. I know this GPU was working on z690 before, have to check which bios I’ve used for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOBKOC Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 (edited) 19 minutes ago, sergmann said: Have tested it on z690 with X4b and x3k with 12900k and 13900k, don’t works but it works on z790 Yep, this was starting to get interesting. giga_z690+AMD_GPU_x16=?? Edited October 31, 2022 by BOBKOC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergmann Posted October 31, 2022 Author Share Posted October 31, 2022 You can still use your GPU on z690 without issues with F6 bios until problem with x-bios is solved ? I can’t see any XOC scores from you, so why you use X-Bios? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOBKOC Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, sergmann said: You can ...& I can’t... 1. F6 not work on memory@7200 + F20b(& X4b) the best bios for memory&memory settings in contrast F6 https://community.hwbot.org/topic/210084-gigabyte-z690-tachyon/?do=findComment&comment=628407 2. X4b with avx512 & F20b no avx512 https://community.hwbot.org/topic/210084-gigabyte-z690-tachyon/?do=findComment&comment=628450 balanced score(at this stage) for me↓ Spoiler + Spoiler Edited October 31, 2022 by BOBKOC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorySS Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 (edited) So i'm on a 13900K and X4b bios. And I'm getting great results with a-die ocing. but for some reason, if i enter cpu VDD / cpu VDDq, i cannot get it to boot with manual voltage settings. but If i leave it on auto, i've gotten the board to boot up to 8266. Auto voltages are being reported as CPU_VDD 1.45v , CPU_VDDQ 1.40v in hwinfo. IF i try to key in those same values, or a little higher, it fails to train. what am I missing guys? got this sweet score in the mean time. https://hwbot.org/submission/5109747_noryss_y_cruncher___pi_1b_core_i9_13900k_16sec_583ms Edited October 31, 2022 by NorySS forgot to add file Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOBKOC Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 1 hour ago, NorySS said: And I'm getting great results with a-die ocing. show yours RTT@8266 Spoiler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorySS Posted October 31, 2022 Share Posted October 31, 2022 36 minutes ago, BOBKOC said: show yours RTT@8266 Hide contents 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOBKOC Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 (edited) 16 hours ago, NorySS said: IF i try to key in those same values, or a little higher, it fails to train. 1. Similarly, if Δ+-0.5 ака 1.44 +1.39 or 1.46+1.41 ? 2. What are your mem training Settings(on on,off&auto)? Edited November 1, 2022 by BOBKOC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergmann Posted November 1, 2022 Author Share Posted November 1, 2022 For new CPU’s set SA to 1.25v, more isn’t necessary. DRAM VDD settings are the best for me at the moment 1.25/1.40 for a-die and m-die Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOBKOC Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, sergmann said: For new CPU’s set SA to 1.25v Bios(F20,X4b) in Auto set 1.25v(+-LLC) on SA. Besides, new giga Bios F20(now no b ) did not solve the problem on my AMD_GPU https://community.hwbot.org/topic/210084-gigabyte-z690-tachyon/?do=findComment&comment=629868 Edited November 1, 2022 by BOBKOC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergmann Posted November 2, 2022 Author Share Posted November 2, 2022 10 hours ago, BOBKOC said: Bios(F20,X4b) in Auto set 1.25v(+-LLC) on SA. Besides, new giga Bios F20(now no b ) did not solve the problem on my AMD_GPU https://community.hwbot.org/topic/210084-gigabyte-z690-tachyon/?do=findComment&comment=629868 Sounds great! I hope it also works good with A-Dies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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