ground Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 (edited) Hello, Yesterday on discord there was once again a discussion about there being no point in pushing older platforms to their limit in memory benches, though the focus was on memory frequency. Memory benches can output wildly different results on different platforms despite being ran at similar memory settings (pyprime AM4 vs LGA 1200 for example), making it not even worth it to run them on many platforms. Thus we arrived at the following suggestion: Change memory benchmarks from hwpoints per DDR generation + globals overall to hwpoints per CPU Socket and memory globals from overall to per DDR generation. An alternative suggestion of per CPU generation was also thrown into the room, but that one might be much harder to implement. I've added it to the poll anyways. Following this suggestion would also have global rankings no longer be the exact same ranking as WR ranking, similar to how it is with multicore benches. Globals per DDR generation might also motivate some people to push for some of the older DDR* records which have remained unbroken for years at this point. - why not per memory IC? There is no required input field for it - it would be impossible to track for older scores and would require massive effort collecting the data for older scores if possible at all. Also very easy to wrongly identify some IC. - why not per chipset? Motherboard was never required as an input field for memory benchmarks. It would require a lot of manual work sorting through all the scores missing the motherboard entry. Edited March 17, 2023 by ground 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apfelkuchen Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 I would love to have more incentives for benchers to push maximum clocks on different platforms, especially the ones that didn't get much love in the past. I wanna see what they can really do This would be my favourite change in a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noxinite Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 Gimme dem DDR2 glow balls. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAGG Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 I think i misunderstood the question I was replacing "generation" with "architecture" in my head for the HW points so just count my vote for HW points per socket option, it's the next best thing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havli Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 I proposed something similar maybe 10 years ago.... nothing happened. So maybe this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moi_kot_lybit_moloko Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 per socket will be fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biolante Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 I'm not entirely sure what's meant by generation...are you referring to microarchitecture or processor core? but anyway I would include both...best in class ranking (a socket ranking with same processor core) and a ranking for that specific microarchitecture, which is comparable to the global ranking as it is now. and not only for ram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ground Posted March 5, 2023 Author Share Posted March 5, 2023 14 hours ago, biolante said: I'm not entirely sure what's meant by generation...are you referring to microarchitecture or processor core? but anyway I would include both...best in class ranking (a socket ranking with same processor core) and a ranking for that specific microarchitecture, which is comparable to the global ranking as it is now. and not only for ram generation like DDR2,DDR3, DDR4 etc. CPU generation like processor core. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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