Country Cup 2024

[Leeghoofd]

Here at HWBOT we try our best to deliver a fair and enjoyable playing field for all those who participate in the rankings and competition. To be able to provide this kind of service we have tried to design some submission and general rules to help remove any doubts about whether something is allowed or not. Based on continued experience these rules will be updated, expanded and completed as time goes by. Please check back for any updates.

 

The HWBOT Country Cup 2024 allows only single CPU socket retail motherboards and single GPU retail Videocard submissions (unless specifically stated otherwise). 

No Laptop or other mobile devices, desktop non server hardware only (unless specified)

Intel Arrow Lake processors and AMD 9800X3D not allowed

 

Please ensure that the verification screenshot includes the competition background, on top of the standard HWBOT rules, a CPU-Z Motherboard tab is required

Plz check out the Standard and specific Country Cup 2024 Rules laid down per stage before submitting. If in doubt contact a moderator

 

 

CPU

Stage 1: 7-Zip by BenchMate: 1x 1, 2 and 5 processor core submission

Stage2: Geekbench 5 Single Core - AMD processor: Different CPU cores

Stage3: 3DMark CPU profile Max - 1x LGA1155, LGA1200 and LGA1700 submission

Stage4: Y-Cruncher PI BBP-10B - 1x 6-12-24 processor cores

Stage5: HWBot X265 1080P - 1x FM1, FM2, FM2+ submission

Stage6: Cinbench 2024 - Intel - Maximum of 24 processor cores (no E core disabling allowed)

 

GPU 

Stage 1: 3DMark03 - APU: 1x FM2, FM2+ and AM4 submission

Stage2: 3DMark Vantage Perf (GPU) - AMD Videocard: GPU Family

Stage3: 3DMark Solar Bay (see card limitations)

Stage4: Cinebench 2024 GPU - GPU Family

Stage5: 3DMark 2001SE - AMD processor, SLi/Crossfire allowed

Stage6: 3DMark Steel Nomad Vulkan - nVIDIA - GPU Family
 

 

Memory

Stage 1: Memory Frequency - Y-Cruncher 2.5 stable: 1x DDR3, DDR4 and DDR5 submission

Stage2: Geekbench 5 Multicore: 1x DDR3, DDR4 and DDR5 submission

Stage3: 3DMark Time Spy (CPU): Maximum of 10 core processors cores

Stage4: PYPrime 32B by BenchMate - Memory Size: 1X 6GB (triple Channel LGA1366) - 8GB and 16 GB submission

Stage5: SuperPi 32M: 1x DDR, DDR2 and DDR3 submission

 

 

Tweaking

Stage1: Y-Cruncher Pi-1B by BenchMate - 8 Core AMD CPUs only - 5005MHz - different CPU and Memory

Stage2: Pifast by BenchMate - 5005MHz - By CPU socket: 1x AM3+, AM4 and AM5 submission

Stage3: 3DMark11 PhysX - 6005MHz - 1 x 8, 12, 16 submission (no E core disabling allowed)

Stage4: 7-Zip by BenchMate - 6005MHz - 6 Processor cores: (no E core disabling allowed)

Stage5: PYprime32B by BenchMate - 5005MHz - Memory Cas Latency 28 - different CPU and Memory

 

 

[ginger_nuts81]

Crap, it's that time of the year again.

Better sort a home brew or two out.

May the best country Australia win again.

[Leeghoofd]

[TASOS]

Very nice wallpaper (once more).

It will be an interesting Country Cup for sure.

[TASOS]

On 10/22/2024 at 2:28 PM, Leeghoofd said:

• General HWBOT rules apply + Motherboard tab 

 

 

A minor issue.
For new members mostly.

Can somebody fix the link in the competition page that point to General HWBOT rules.
At the moment it points to a blank page.

Of course there is a working link at the right side of the page and also at the bottom of the page ... but lets make things easier.

 

 

 

It's a simple change in links

From this https://hwbot.org/news/1038_rules/

To this https://hwbot.org/generalRules

[Leeghoofd]

I don't have access to that part of the page, will need to ask Tim

 

[IvanCupa]

I Guess how many score needed still isn't clearly visible?
Or am I dud? Hahah

I'm looking at GB5 SC stage to be exact. Thanks!

Edited November 4 by IvanCupa

[Leeghoofd]

All but CB 2024 GPU family (4 scores)  is 3 scores required

[Leeghoofd]

We closed the cruncher PI BBP stage for now, till submitting works again.

Hang on to your scores

[Leeghoofd]

Y-Cruncher stage is back open

[samual]

CPU - y-cruncher - Pi-BBP-10b question.

Sorry about the bolding.  Does no core disabling apply to AMD processors?

[Leeghoofd]

No core disabling is for all CPUs and CPU brands

[samual]

Thank you

[Mr.Scott]

Opterons allowed for 32m ddr1 SPI ?

[d0minat0r]

Stage6: Cinbench 2024 - Intel - Maximum of 24 processor cores (no E core disabling allowed)

For this, need be a different socket or can use 14900k, 14900kf, and 13900k?

[Leeghoofd]

[d0minat0r]

sorry I didn't understand.

[TASOS]

On 11/4/2024 at 9:09 PM, Leeghoofd said:

All but CB 2024 GPU family (4 scores)  is 3 scores required

Now with the new GUI , any option to add under DETAILS of each stage , the number of scores required ?

 

[TASOS]

On 10/22/2024 at 2:28 PM, Leeghoofd said:

Here at HWBOT we try our best to deliver a fair and enjoyable playing field for all those who participate in the rankings and competition. To be able to provide this kind of service we have tried to design some submission and general rules to help remove any doubts about whether something is allowed or not. Based on continued experience these rules will be updated, expanded and completed as time goes by. Please check back for any updates.

 

The HWBOT Country Cup 2024 allows only single CPU socket retail motherboards and single GPU retail Videocard submissions (unless specifically stated otherwise). 

No Laptop or other mobile devices, desktop non server hardware only (unless specified)

Intel Arrow Lake processors and AMD 9800X3D not allowed

 

Please ensure that the verification screenshot includes the competition background, on top of the standard HWBOT rules, a CPU-Z Motherboard tab is required

Plz check out the Standard and specific Country Cup 2024 Rules laid down per stage before submitting. If in doubt contact a moderator

 

 

 

 

GPU 

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Stage6: 3DMark Steel Nomad Vulkan - nVIDIA - GPU Family
 

 

 

Where exactly does it say , that we have to use different GEN vga's in that stage ?

 

[Leeghoofd]

[TASOS]

Alby

The improvement (not saying perfection) in detailed description of each stage for such a big event (which is in progress)  , should have been your No1 priority.

Every year , in almost all events we deal with the same problems.

No proper definitions
Unclear rules in some parts.

This has to change.

I dont know if there still is limitation in characters used in description fields ... but we have to improve it.

New GUI

Edited November 29 by TASOS

[Leeghoofd]

Well the best trainers and players are usually at the sideline of each football game or watching in their lazy couch or in a sportsbar

Thus no difference at HWBOT 

Classics:

 - usually zero involvement when setting up a compo
 - close to no inputs just before any compo starts on ruling
 - once more a reminder that it is impossible to have 100% clear rules unless you keep the competition format basic like the push the hardware series
    loophoples therefore are nearly impossible to avoid
 - sometimes a small effort to look at other subs reveals probably the solution to 95% of the raised remarks
 - almost everything you talk about is defined by me in the admin setup page, now if it isn't displayed that's another thing where we have to learn from
 

 

 

Did I wanted to push the new GUI in November?  nope, it was not ready, testing on UAT was pretty time consuming (not so responsive) and very limited as we could not do any subs or setup comps on it. So the best way is the hard way  and do the debugging live, preference for me was in January after Country Cup.
 

Do we work hard to get it all fixed, yep, lots of progres has been done already and the eo sports page is no more.

How many people are effectively doing the bug fixing/ GUI improvements you all require? : just guess

 

Thanks to all that pot errors and report them

[TASOS]

Alby

Forget that it's me who made this post (cause i know how things work in here) and put yourself into the position of a new member or an old member that was absent for a long period.

Log-in to the competition page , navigate through stages ... and tell me how clear things are in total and how easy it is for such a user to pick hardware and participate ?

I didn't make this post , to point a finger at you.
I am posting complaints from my members

I want from people above you to realize and deal with the problems we face.

It's not possible to deal with everything in this site , with only 2-3 people involving.
Alby if you need help , you have to ask for it.

Once upon a time , team captains of the major teams , had a private small sub-forum , where they could talk to "hwbot" and talk to each other also.
That's missing nowadays.

 

[phobosq]

There's another thing that I think was there in the early rules, at least in the old GUI - picture requirement. We had this requirement by default for all competitions, and I don't see it after the update. There are at least a few submits without rig photo and it would be a bummer for those guys if their hard work went down the drain. 

[Leeghoofd]

So  how to rephrase so the stage rules are understandable...