hokiealumnus Posted April 27, 2011 Posted April 27, 2011 ^ I think the difference here though is that dejo and his daughter were both using the same hardware and admitted to that. Honestly either way rev4 is coming and will shake everything up again. Depends on what you mean by 'the same hardware'. They were using hardware with the same model numbers, but they were not using the same hardware, which is why the whole thing stunk to Dejo. He purchased two of anything that had the same model number, and had photographs of them side by side. This post is not to drudge past issues up, and I have no dog in this fight, just wanted to clear up that point. Quote
[GF]Duke Posted April 27, 2011 Posted April 27, 2011 Is it bad that I googled it? Though I will say that proof has been provided that raises suspicion. In a court of law it would be up to the accused to provide proof to rebut at this point. Negative. In a court of law you are innocent until proven guilty. Its up to the prosecution to make its case with solid proof. Suspicion is as worthy as speculation in a court of law. Quote
Bobnova Posted April 27, 2011 Posted April 27, 2011 Whether there is enough evidence depends on the court here in the US. If it's a criminal court you need proof beyond reasonable doubt. This fails. If it's a civil court you need "clear and convincing evidence". This has data that is pretty clear and convincing to me, identical GPU clocks simply isn't going to happen down to the mhz, especially not at a speed that doesn't end in 0 or 5. Of course, the good old i7 950 wp1024m rankings are the same way more or less, four guys from the same team within 1mhz of each other, and that was quietly swept under the rug. This being the HWBot court, where it takes....... actually I don't know. If the ruling that was handed down to dejo/daughter was enforced this would be an open and shut case, as would the 950 rankings, and many others. Naturally it's not being enforced, for some reason or another. Quote
Splave Posted April 28, 2011 Posted April 28, 2011 what we are failing to note here is that in smart doctor or any software for gtx-580's you dont choose the exact mhz you want to run. You are allowed within a range of numbers to either select the step below or above depending on which number you tried to input. IE why 990mhz 964mhz 976mhz are popular frequencies for gtx-580's Quote
Members GeorgeStorm Posted April 29, 2011 Members Posted April 29, 2011 I have no idea in this personal case. But if there is evidence either way, which you've certainly hinted to Massman, then why don't you say/show it. Cos you don't want the hassle? This is your job Massman, you get paid to do it, so do it. Quote
marsey99 Posted May 26, 2011 Posted May 26, 2011 fucking pussy ass eaters... i think thats a porn movie... No that's pussy ass eating fuckers, a good movie I have no idea in this personal case.But if there is evidence either way, which you've certainly hinted to Massman, then why don't you say/show it. Cos you don't want the hassle? This is your job Massman, you get paid to do it, so do it. It does sound like mm knows more than he is sharing to me too Quote
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