sin0822 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 (edited) I certainly hope it will....!BTW; Once again, thank you le cookie, for listening to the community, its much appreciated that you take note of feedback and allow Gigabyte to work on it. We've had quite an era of "its your fault" by another staff member, also present in this thread you know i will sue you in your own country if you don't stop calling me a staff member. This is a public proper warning, the last one, and a formal one. If you persist when I will be left with no choice but to write more asrock reviews. Edited December 19, 2012 by sin0822 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Beier Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 (edited) you know i will sue you in your own country if you don't stop calling me a staff member. This is a public proper warning, the last one, and a formal one. If you persist when I will be left with no choice but to write more asrock reviews. You know, it could just as well have been dinos22 from the choice of my words, but you thought it was for you - I wonder why.... Got anything you wish to share? - Also, please take note, some of your posts are against the law here, more specific §267, however, I dont mind taking on a cunt, and I do not threat with bunnyextraction without actually following through - Im not a so-called chickenshit, you know, the kind you can identify yourself as. - BUT please, can you send me a PM if you wish further OT???? I dont really see how this is relevant for everyone else, hicookie is trying to help out the community. Edited December 19, 2012 by M.Beier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sin0822 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 I am not kidding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stasio Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Seems that Z77 BIOS start from begging again.......... Beier is right, as he noted that Hicookie now be must involved to clear all this.......sh??. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sin0822 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 well maybe you are referring to someone else b/c i never told anyone it is their fault. Plus i don't work for gigabyte. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stasio Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 (edited) I just say same as Beier (not all) ,.....thanks to Hicookie,to start this thread. I try today again F12e for UP5......just didn't "go" as F12c.....boot only once with slew 4 with samsung to 2666....wtf. Edit: I must make a "Video" and send to relevant GB people.........again.... It's so hard to adjust BIOS for memory as Asus or Asrock? Edited December 19, 2012 by stasio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Beier Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Stasio it really would be odd if you were 100% agreeing on my point of view, that would be a little too much bromance I must admit, I dont really find it more or less difficult on different boards, some have more settings than others though - but, I cant rate the 'difficulity', its all a matter of rutine and what one is used to. Its a very very nice change(or, return to old priorities?) that Hicookie has now been allowed to reach out for the end-users investigating the problems and bugs, after all, we are 'free' workforce, and will help the company making the product even better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Leeghoofd Posted December 19, 2012 Crew Share Posted December 19, 2012 (edited) Looking at your Corsair Dimms PJ I have my doubts it they are Hynix based. Look at the tRAS, yours can be seriously tightened as with Samsungs... Still have to try the bios PJ you send, but another brand wanted me to retest some stuff for them Just tested the same 2800C11 dimms and CPU on the MPOWER board and it works like it should... will retest my PSC dimms on that board too... I got official word from a GB contact that PSC OCing at 2400 or beyond is out of G.SKILL specs, sigh... Maybe an idea to only put XMP profile in the bios and leave the RAM dividers hidden... that might be a future solution ... NOT ! @Mbeier and Sin: plz don't start this again, get a room you two or a cage to fight in ! Let's keep this thread to the point... a future BIOS that works fab ! This board has got potential , but we need a decent RAM compatibility fix ! This is not about not wanting to explore the board, the workarounds work sometimes, but creates a situation where some might find themselves uneasy and they will 90% ditch this board for another brand... Edited December 19, 2012 by Leeghoofd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhand411 Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 (edited) Thanks for this thread cookie Edited December 19, 2012 by coolhand411 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeneffect Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 (edited) Looking at your Corsair Dimms PJ I have my doubts it they are Hynix based. Look at the tRAS, yours can be seriously tightened as with Samsungs... Still have to try the bios PJ you send, but another brand wanted me to retest some stuff for them Just tested the same 2800C11 dimms and CPU on the MPOWER board and it works like it should... will retest my PSC dimms on that board too... I got official word from a GB contact that PSC OCing at 2400 or beyond is out of G.SKILL specs, sigh... Maybe an idea to only put XMP profile in the bios and leave the RAM dividers hidden... that might be a future solution ... NOT ! @Mbeier and Sin: plz don't start this again, get a room you two or a cage to fight in ! Let's keep this thread to the point... a future BIOS that works fab ! This board has got potential , but we need a decent RAM compatibility fix ! This is not about not wanting to explore the board, the workarounds work sometimes, but creates a situation where some might find themselves uneasy and they will 90% ditch this board for another brand... im working on psc tonight, but a quick test with sammys are encouraging. first time ive been able to do this... set xmp + slew 4 = no 51 and 32m stable. I want to try to push to 2800 before switching to PSC so it might be a day or two before I can put up a pic @ 2600 c8 air (again ) as time is limited for me as Ive got other work that I need to knock out first. SLEW 4 (both) made ALL the difference on this bios. *edit* imc wont go above 2780 on air... testing on PSC now. 2600 multi memory works?!? Alby, we might have ourselves a BIOS here! gotta run it through its paces, but its looking goooooooood (so far) *edit edit* not enough time to fine tune 32m stability (picked the hardest sticks ive got to work with) but this bios is definitely worth trying out. its got *almost* everything I want. its missing the misc sub menu and its contents like pcie gen switching and legacy benchmark optimization. quick "relevant" benchmark with PSC SLEW 2 (both) treat the psc or samsung like you would on other boards (loose but general target timings for compatibility...) my findings: samsungs = slew 4 psc = slew 2 hope this helps. Marc, (or is it Mark?) Im not trying to troll you or anything and this is a genuine question. Do you have a UP7, and if so, how much have you tested on it? Are you seeing the same results as Leghoofd and I? Edited December 20, 2012 by zeneffect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sin0822 Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 (edited) leeg- i think there is a setting needed for 2800c11 samsung from corsair, i can't remember what its call taonad or something off the top of my head. It might be for cas 12 tho, i don't have that kit. hicookie said it would be in public BIOS soon, it is nice of them to add that slew rate across all boards, i just noticed even this Z77X-UP4 has it now. Hey zen- here are my results with the same kingston kit: but i remember it working once we got into the F5 BIOSes, even without slew i can get boot at XMP, i didn't have time to test stability at that, but i wouldn't be surprised if it required a change in slew to be, if that is the case they might be able to program certain kits to do different slew by default, or at least i hope. max clock was around 2900(max of my CPU, 3 kits all hit this). this was my All these results on slew 2, but the strength of the slews seems to change BIOS to BIOS. Edited December 20, 2012 by sin0822 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massman Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Yeah, Sin doesn't work for Gigabyte. He just uses it way too often, haha. Hey Beier, how's your personal testing going? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Leeghoofd Posted December 20, 2012 Crew Share Posted December 20, 2012 (edited) Thx for the heads up lads will try to play with the slew settings tonite... Had to play with a competitors board for a few tests... good to see it evolving now... @Zeneffect did you adjust the tWL value manually or is it on auto ? Edited December 20, 2012 by Leeghoofd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeneffect Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 psc all settings were set manually, samsungs, the only thing touched was skew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stasio Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 (edited) yea comfirm ,test (2666C10) and for sure (mem in slot 3&4....otherwise won't boot): Samsungs = slew 4 (not as advertised 2-3...) ....with manual setting tWL...8 tRRD...6-7 Edited December 20, 2012 by stasio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeneffect Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 cpu multi isnt working with oc keys in f5n. minor issue tbh, ln2 switch works fine and at 63x multi bclk is granular enough to work with. gear button doesnt light up, but still functions... though it could be my board? bclk from onboard buttons functions as intended. pcs = good samsung = good bbse = good hynix = good almost there, just 1 more revision with minor fixes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Leeghoofd Posted December 21, 2012 Crew Share Posted December 21, 2012 F5o received on my doorstep (should resolve the 2800C11 issues) http://dl.dropbox.com/u/66364457/Gigabyte%20UP7%20bios/z77xup7F5o.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
froxic Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Bios F5o has some real improvements. I can post and boot with 2800 devider with G.Skill TridentX 2666C11 (Hynix) 2 × 4 GB kit. I was impossible on air cooling before. But it would need some additional tweaking cause SuperPi 32M show some arrors instead of 1,84 V on DDR3 (1,05 V IMC). Still, first time I run this stick with 2800 MHz devider on air... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Leeghoofd Posted December 21, 2012 Crew Share Posted December 21, 2012 My 2666c11 sticks need 11-14-14 and 2T command rate to get through 32M no matter the board... could be yours are similar... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sin0822 Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 maybe i was just lucky with the 2666c11 from g.skill but yea, it wouldn't easily boot 2800 without messing with 3rds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sin0822 Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 i also made this guide to OCing the UP7, provided some timings for those of you who have no idea: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?284359-Z77X-UP7-Performance-Review-and-CPU-and-Memory-Overclocking-Guide Those timings worked great for me with samsung and hynix. Also about slew setting, basically try above 1 for samsung and psc, some boards will like higher settings, and some BIOSes will also like higher settings so just try them out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeneffect Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 2800 done with kingstons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crew Leeghoofd Posted December 23, 2012 Crew Share Posted December 23, 2012 Way to go , beforehand this was close to impossible ? Again the Slews did the trick ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhand411 Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 (edited) I was finally able to boot/pass 8M with my previously impassible 2300c8 PSC @1300c8-12-8-28-1 (1.83v)-[slew rate 2] this is with new F15o on UD5 ,can't wait to try my new UP7 Edited December 23, 2012 by coolhand411 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeneffect Posted December 23, 2012 Share Posted December 23, 2012 Way to go , beforehand this was close to impossible ? Again the Slews did the trick ? slew + ddr pwm frequency. i couldnt even get 2800 to post before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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